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Dec 14, 2009, 6:10 AM

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Re: [dugl33] The laws of climbing
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dugl33 wrote:
but isn't Hawaii pretty much the red-headed step child of climbing? You know, Nebraski, Ohio, Hawaii... are you so in a twist because you are stuck on what is actually a fairly small island, the paradise aspect has lost its luster, and now it’s just a hot, humid, touron packed cruise-ship you're floating on?
Yes, to some degree. We have climbing and the climbing we do have is actually fairly good. However we only have about 100 routes and its difficult to establish new lines due to a nice cost of about $200 a line.

However it’s not as much the climbing that is the issue. There are plenty of people who climb here but most are not very committed and just climb on a light recreational basis. Our climbing community is rater small with only about 20 climbers who could be considered "dedicated" to the sport. Accordingly it’s a difficult place to climb for someone who really loves the sport and is highly motivated. So the main issue is finding equally motivated, safe and reliable partners. The only time I generally get all three of those things is when someone comes to visit from the mainland who is a dedicated climber back home.

So in the end it’s not an issue of how skilled any of my partners are on the rock, it’s an issue of safety, reliability, and motivation. The only things I really care about on that list are those that reflect such. I don’t think it’s an issue with their reliability as a whole, I think it’s an issue of motivation. When we talk to our partners the night before they get all hyped up to climb the next day but when the alarm rings in the morning they say, “fuck it, why get up when I can sleep?”. Or maybe I am wrong and they are simply completely unreliable in all aspects, I don’t know. Those who do show up can be considered partly reliably but many of those are unmotivated or lazy. Others are simply unsafe.

But this is nothing new; every crag has these issues to some extent. But what sets those crags apart from mine is that climbers at other crags can simply choose a different more reliable and more motivated partner. Such is not the case here and I am stuck climbing with less motivated, unsafe and/ or unreliable partners fairly often.

So do I really feel the way I wrote my original post? Not really. I am neither aggressive nor violent. I don’t yell at my partner if they do any of the things on my list, I respectfully bring the issue up. I intentionally wrote it in a malicious and aggressive manner as that was kind of necessary to keep the tone I wanted. The only things I do really care about are safety, reliability and continuing motivation.


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