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curt


Jan 31, 2012, 5:46 PM

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Re: [flesh] So happy Mitt will be president
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flesh wrote:
curt wrote:
flesh wrote:
curt wrote:
flesh wrote:
...Since you don't believe smarter folks make more money, I guess you think poor folks are just as smart as rich folks...

I guess you completely missed the Einstein comparative, eh?

Curt

Have you read einstein's most popular biography, by walter isaacson? I have, whether it was through direct pay, or by being taken care of in financial terms indirectly, he lived a upper middle income lifestyle by todays standards as soon as he came to america, which is the country in question. He created his lifestyle through his intelligence and applying himself. Any of the studies I've seen that confirm income is mirrored by intelligence, say it breaks down after around 140 IQ. 140>110 IQ for income but 170 to 140 there is no difference. Once again, I'm aware there are dozens of studies pro and con, I don't care to look at them again.

Come on, I understand you don't like Mitt, I don't like Obama, but I think he extremely sharp, just lacked experience, you really don't think that he's in the top % in intelligence, no matter how you measure it?

Yes, I have read that biography. In fact, I suspect that Steve Jobs chose Walter Isaacson to write his own biography in part because he wrote Einstein's. No, I don't believe Mitt is particularly intelligent, but I do think he is an extremely successful opportunist. He should probably have his own chapter in Nassim Taleb's book "Fooled by Randomness."

Curt

Funny, I'm reading steve's biography right now, half way through it.

I don't believe you don't think he's particularly intelligent, even if you totally disagree with him. No biggie...

Romney is almost certainly no genius, but I do think he is bright--as in clever and cunning. However, he clearly believes in absolutely nothing except for advancing his own personal ambitions. I think he's a dangerous person precisely because it is impossible to tell what he really believes in--he will morph which ever the way the wind blows, if he gains political advantage from doing so. He is a complete phony.

Actually, he probably inherited that ability to flip-flop from his father.

wikipedia wrote:

...before his (1968 Presidential) campaign had officially began, Governor (George) Romney made a statement that practically ruined his chances of getting the nomination. In a taped interview with Lou Gordon of WKBD-TV in Detroit on August 31 1967, Romney stated, "When I came back from Viet Nam [in November 1965], I'd just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get."

He then shifted to opposing the war: "I no longer believe that it was necessary for us to get involved in South Vietnam to stop Communist aggression in Southeast Asia," he declared. Decrying the "tragic" conflict, he urged "a sound peace in South Vietnam at an early time." Thus Romney disavowed the war and reversed himself from his earlier stated belief that the war was "morally right and necessary."

The "brainwashing" reference had been an offhand, unplanned remark that came at the end of a long, behind-schedule day of campaigning. By September 7 it had found its way into prominence at The New York Times. Eight other governors who had been on the same 1965 trip as Romney said no such activity had taken place, with one of them, Philip H. Hoff of Vermont, saying Romney's remarks were "outrageous, kind of stinking ... Either he's a most naïve man or he lacks judgment." The connotations of brainwashing, following the experiences of American prisoners of war (highlighted by the 1962 film The Manchurian Candidate), made Romney's comments devastating, especially as it reinforced the negative image of Romney's abilities that had already developed. The topic of brainwashing quickly became newspaper editorial and television talk show fodder, with Romney bearing the brunt of the topical humor...

I guess the acorn doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Curt


(This post was edited by curt on Jan 31, 2012, 7:14 PM)



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