Mar 17, 2012, 5:19 PM
Registered: Aug 22, 2004
When is a beginner not a beginner any longer?)
When they've been brought along appropriately by someone who knows what they're doing.
You guys can squawk all you want, but the number of accidents in climbing these days speaks for itself that people regularly get out ahead of themselves.
(This post was edited by healyje on Mar 17, 2012, 5:20 PM)