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ceebo


Mar 17, 2012, 9:58 PM

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Re: [shotwell] Gaining Strength
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shotwell wrote:
ceebo wrote:
shotwell wrote:
ceebo wrote:
shotwell wrote:
ceebo wrote:
donwanadi wrote:
I don't think the same person who boulders v3 at 'near max' is climbing rainbow routes on slab to maintain a light pump.

Not clear what you mean.. the slab is too easy or to hard? In any case you are wrong.

To easy, eliminate holds. In fact why even do that? movement training should not be hindered by physical difficulty.

To hard?. Considering most ''rainbow'' slabs can be climbed with no hand holds, such a person is in clear need of doing more slab to learn why that skill eludes them. It does not take v3 over hang pulling power to learn whats a miss.

You're wrong. Sorry to say, but 'movement skills' have to be proof tested to be usable. I can dropknee on V0 all day, but I can't apply it to V10 without using it there.

I strongly believe that sound movement skills are the foundation of climbing improvement. Learning skills the first time on easy terrain, then pushing harder and harder is the only way to learn how to actually use something. So it is clear that physical difficulty is required to actually learn a new skill.

Read the OP agin, then read your post again.

Whatever. You're not seeing the obvious problem with your 'daily climbing program.' Nothing new, you don't understand what you're talking about.
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I did not disagree with what you said.. you just failed hard to realise the exact same logic was covered in my other posts.

If you need to feel like you know more and lcimb harder etc etc.. get on with it.. go you.

You seem to pull this 'insult' out pretty frequently.

Sorry I couldn't follow the logic in your earlier post. If I had realized you were suggesting learning movement skills at 5.easy, then Veasy, then Vmoderate, and finally Vhard (grades omitted as 'hard' is relative) then I would have kept my mouth shut.

Unfortunately you didn't say anything about doing this. You just said climb easy stuff, do movement training, then climb harder stuff other days. You went on to say that movement training should not be hindered by physical difficulty, which couldn't be more untrue. Training movement skills requires on learning to use them efficiently on desperate terrain.

I can only pull out of your posts what you put into them.

I left out the fine details becuase i seen no need for them.. the main intention was to make him aware of how much he would need to restrain himself in order to sustain 7 day week climbing.

It was that simple, but ofc.. being RC everybody wants to chip in and prove they know more.

If you wanne write out a detiled 7 day week training plan for the guy go right head.


(This post was edited by ceebo on Mar 17, 2012, 9:59 PM)



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