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Apr 20, 2012, 3:39 PM

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Re: [granite_grrl] lost grip
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Hi granite_grrl...

I don't want to get into a huge battle here. There is no question the USA system has big problems.

I'm not really willing to get into presenting lots of evidence reagrding how many patients come here for elective surgeries. I have had quite a few (Canadian) students come to my city to attend PT school, I instruct them clinically, and I invariably discuss the USA vs Canada systems. There are some really good things about the Canadian system. There is also quite a bit of trouble with it.

Good: decreased overall health care cost. decreased immediate out of pocket expense. quick access for critical care. low medication costs. generally good pre-emptive care.

Bad: slow (in the USA, we'd say "VERY slow") access to elective procedures, such as joint replacement. According to one student's well-researched inservice, joint replacement averages about an 18-month waiting period in Canada, compared to perhaps a month in the USA. 6 months for CABG (coronary artery bypass graft). This almost certainly contains pretty high mortality, which is one unpleasant way of containing costs. decreased cancer care, with much less emphasis on prolonging the quality of life. I think life is precious.

In short, improvements need to be made to both systems. One problem in the Canadian system (in my opinion) is that you CANNOT opt to privately pay for denied services, unless you go to the USA. I think that infringes upon my freedom (and therefore, on your freedom).

We don't get poor people here, privately paying. But we do get lots of patients.

I am no apologist for our system, but there are some really good things about it.

EDIT: one additional point: If you are paying 12 x $80. = $960. annually for health care, but are actually using, say, $3000. annually in health care, you realize, of course, that your fellow citizens are picking up your slack, right? Someone is paying for it.

(This post was edited by onceahardman on Apr 20, 2012, 3:46 PM)

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Post edited by onceahardman () on Apr 20, 2012, 3:46 PM

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