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Nov 7, 2012, 9:54 PM

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Re: [gunkiemike] Schooling
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gunkiemike wrote:
Yes, totally valid.

And profitable (for Murray State, NOLS, and AMGA).
Maybe. My reply to this thread is going to be the same as it was to the other similar thread: when choosing a college degree, it is very important one considers the worth of that degree in the marketplace. Now, if the OP really wants to be a guide, then so be it. But know that a degree in adventure leadership is of limited worth outside of the very small field of outdoor guiding and similar areas. Compare it to a degree in say computer science, which can be used by 95% of employers on the face of this planet (everyone needs IT pros).

Remember, Obama may try to trick you and say everything is going to be great if you vote for him, but the truth is the economy is still in the shitter and it is probably going to remain in the shitter for awhile. The unemployment rate is really only 1-1.5% lower now than it was in 2009 - it's still really high. So if the OP finds he cannot get a full time job as a guide (which is probable), dont expect to be able to migrate into many different fields with that degree. Worse, he may find he cant find full time work and now he also has student loan debt piling up interest. That is really a place you dont want to be. Sure there is NOAA and a few other organizations he might be able to work for, but again, overall that degree is not very marketable.

My personal suggestion would be for the OP to obtain a degree in a high demand marketplace and simultaneously pursue AMGA certification and part time guiding work while going to school. He does not need a degree to be a guide and having one only marginally increases his worth to a guiding employer. Most guiding companies are going to be far more interested in your climbing experience, guiding experience, and any AMGA certifications you may hold. If the OP chooses that route, he could still work as a guide, but if it does not work out, he can pursue a career in the field he pursued his degree in.

Again, to reiterate about guiding. The OP does not need a degree to be a guide! At best, it will give him some marginal hiring preference. However, it is unlikely to give him much if any pay increase which means if he decides to stay with guiding, he will not get his money back from his degree. The main purpose of going to college is to create a returnable investment. The idea is a student goes to school, and by doing so he or she will get paid more which means the money he invested in college will not only be returned back to him or her, but it will pay interest. However, there are many fields where this scenario does not typically happen, and guiding is one of them.

(This post was edited by USnavy on Nov 7, 2012, 10:18 PM)

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