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reno


Feb 17, 2005, 7:59 PM
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ps does anyone know who the moron is who tarpitted curt?

Why does this matter?


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what, precisely, was the word or words that Curt used, which caused his tar-pitting? Anyone know?

and...probably the mod who pittted curt feels sort of bad....after all, he or she most likely wouldn't have ever guessed it would have caused him to leave.


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Oh, okay, I've got it. I've got to misquote people to get tarpitted.

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Hey, prospective employers, I really need a job, but for the record, I HATE ARMENIANS! And I kick puppies.

there.

TARPIT ME!!!!11


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Feb 17, 2005, 8:23 PM
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what, precisely, was the word or words that Curt used, which caused his tar-pitting? Anyone know?

Again, I ask: Why is this important?

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and...probably the mod who pittted curt feels sort of bad....after all, he or she most likely wouldn't have ever guessed it would have caused him to leave.

[/mod]I doubt it. Personally, I wouldn't feel bad that someone got his knickers in a twist and left the site because he was asked to display some civility and refrain from unacceptable behavior. Curt left because he was asked to not do something offensive. What does that tell you about the quality of him as a person?


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Feb 17, 2005, 8:25 PM
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Well then I take that back. So - Reno, are you a mod, and are you the one who shit-canned Curt?

Why does it matter? It doesn't. Just asking is all. I am also wondering exactly what sort of textual misbehavior (in reality, not theory, earns a tar-pitting nowadays).


reno


Feb 17, 2005, 8:35 PM
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Well then I take that back. So - Reno, are you a mod, and are you the one who s----canned Curt?

happiegrrrl:

1) Yes, I'm a mod. Mostly I do mod stuff in Accidents/Injuries, since I know a little bit about injuries, medicine, trauma, treatment of injuries, first aid, emergency medicine, athletic training, physical therapy, and the like. I also do a little bit of mod duties here in Community, which isn't something I particularily like, but I do it to help out and contribute back to the website that has been such a wonderful resource.

2) No, I didn't "shitcan"Curt. Nobody "shitcanned" Curt. Curt stated that he was leaving RC.com. That's right... he did it himself. Nobody told him to leave. This is a distinction I wish to make clear. Nobody told Curt he wasn't welcome. At least none of us on the staff.

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Why does it matter? It doesn't. Just asking is all. I am also wondering exactly what sort of textual misbehavior (in reality, not theory, earns a tar-pitting nowadays).

Read the TOS for an explanation of what constitutes unacceptable behavior. It's really quite simple: No Porn, no Spam, no gratuitous nudity, no personal and offensive attacks/harassment. What's so wrong about that?


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Feb 17, 2005, 8:44 PM
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I've seen some fairly offensive attacks amongst personalities within the forums that didn't appear to result in tar-pittings....I just was wondering -as I said - if anyone would direct me to the "pre-pit post." I think other people just wondered too, is all.

Not a big deal. Feel free to disregard my posts.


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Feb 17, 2005, 8:50 PM
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It's really quite simple: No Porn, no Spam, no gratuitous nudity, no personal and offensive attacks/harassment. What's so wrong about that?

um, i think we forgot about catering to high school libraries and potentially psycho/disgruntled employers.


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Oh, okay, I've got it. I've got to misquote people to get tarpitted.

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Hey, prospective employers, I really need a job, but for the record, I HATE ARMENIANS! And I kick puppies.

there.

TARPIT ME!!!!11

THANKS. MY BOSS DOESNT CARE THAT I SURF RC.COM AT WORK - BUT I JUST GOT WRITTEN UP BECAUSE HE THINKS THAT I KICK PUPPIES. THIS IS BOULDER COUNTY. THINGS LIKE THAT ARE AN OUTRAGE AROUND HERE.

THANKS!


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Feb 17, 2005, 9:03 PM
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well this fucking sucks ass....

i worked late, volunteered and started to reading a new book and i MISS ALL THIS!


what a load of fucking cum in the ear!(aka bullshit)


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Feb 17, 2005, 9:03 PM
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Curt's a good friend and I'm going to miss his input. Mods and Admins collectively share the decision making process for metting out consequences, but the TOS really makes the decisions for us in many cases. He had been formally warned for taking it too far in the recent past (1st warning), and this was the second incident. The objectivity comes into play where we all discuss what is "too far." There were two people involved in the exchange and you know Curt -- he'll escalate the battle as far as the other party is willing to take it. Most of us felt it was over the top.

Curt, you're welcome to come back any time, bro. Once and for all, let me make it clear, Curt is not banned. He chose to leave.

Ed


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I've seen some fairly offensive attacks amongst personalities within the forums that didn't appear to result in tar-pittings....I just was wondering -as I said - if anyone would direct me to the "pre-pit post." I think other people just wondered too, is all.

Not a big deal. Feel free to disregard my posts.

We can't. The post was removed. Yep. The entire post is archived because there was content in it that did more than just violate the TOS (content which was not Curt's), it offended some potential business partners.

Ed


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Feb 17, 2005, 9:16 PM
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I've seen some fairly offensive attacks amongst personalities within the forums that didn't appear to result in tar-pittings....I just was wondering -as I said - if anyone would direct me to the "pre-pit post." I think other people just wondered too, is all.

Not a big deal. Feel free to disregard my posts.

We can't. The post was removed. Yep. The entire post is archived because there was content in it that did more than just violate the TOS (content which was not Curt's), it offended some potential business partners.

Ed

isnt it bad ethics to let advertisers determine content?


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I think so.


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isnt it bad ethics to let advertisers determine content?

I`d agree with this generally but if and I do not refer to any particular post when I say if a post contained potentially libellous material that could take the site down by way of legal avenues then I certianly want to yank that sort of post or thread.

I also wish to cultivate good business relations with the mags and other climbing related companies so that you the users can continue to enjoy a "free" site.

It is unseemly to see full scale wars break out in the open forums, that I won`t tolerate and will act whenever that goes down.

We do wish to see a civil society evolve within this online climbing community. I think that 99% of us here wish for the same thing so that we are all able to reap the benefits of being able to use this marvellous resource to find partners and jaw a little whilst dodging the boss while we are online. All of us that is except amber, she doesn`t have to dodge the boss cos she surfs rc in front of him. :wink:


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Feb 18, 2005, 1:15 AM
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this site...can't decide whether it wants to be a cooperative, user-supported website, or a corporate, commercial entity.

Putting my web guy hat on, if the management take note of one comment in this thread it should be this one.

Serious commerical sites take their responsibilities seriously. That means if there is a disciplinary procedure, it is fair and transparent to everyone. Side-stepping the issue of exactly who tarpitted who and what the comments were that led to it breeds exactly the culture we have here - there isn't really that much nepotism and back-scratching going on, but it looks like there is because the management close ranks and won't accept responsibility when there's conflict.

Okay, I'll take that hat off now.

Curt, sorry to see you go.

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ps does anyone know who the moron is who tarpitted curt?

Why does this matter?

well i'd like to find out what the hell they were thinking and how they arrived at this decision. to tarpit someone who was in the process of organizing (and doing the bulk of the leg work) for the protection of queen creek, and communicating abundantly through this site is absolutely foolish... from a CLIMBER'S perspective, at least, which seems to be a perspective this website desperately lacks.... so in short it matters because i want to learn more about the situation.


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Bye Bye Curt. I won't miss you


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Anyone who stays anywhere for an extended period of time and expects it to not change is seriously delusional.

When I gave up in the case of Jules vs. Things She Cannot Change, it was a happy day.

That court shit is expensive.


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ps does anyone know who the moron is who tarpitted curt?

Why does this matter?

well i'd like to find out what the hell they were thinking and how they arrived at this decision. to tarpit someone who was in the process of organizing (and doing the bulk of the leg work) for the protection of queen creek, and communicating abundantly through this site is absolutely foolish... from a CLIMBER'S perspective, at least, which seems to be a perspective this website desperately lacks.... so in short it matters because i want to learn more about the situation.

What they were thinking was *probably* something like this:

"Oh, wow.... Curt's comments to this other user are way out of line, and they violate the TOS. Curt has been warned before about this sort of thing, yet he's still doing it. I'll consult with the other mods, ask them for input, and then decide on an appropriate action. In the meantime, I'll ask Curt to refrain from making such offensive and inappropriate posts."

Or something like that.


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then again, look at who some of the mods are.
As much as I love him, Bumblie - who has personally attacked and been an ass to just about every user here who he doesn't meet eye to eye with - is a mod. :lol:


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..drama...


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..more drama...drama... drama...drama...drama

oops sorry wrong thread

:wink:


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:lol: :lol: :lol:


...Hey Joe...


WAT UP!!!!!!!!!

hugs and kisses

MR :lol: :lol:


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:lol: :lol: :lol:


...Hey Joe...


WAT UP!!!!!!!!!

hugs and kisses

MR :lol: :lol:

Hey pal, that's SEXUAL HARASSMENT, which is a blatant violation of the TOS!!!123456789 :shock:

I demand an immediate death and dismemberment of MR, before these insidious acts of wanton disregard are allowed to continue!

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