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static balance is great...

at first i thought it was always super hard, i was focused on learning dynamic balance.


but latley i have been wandering around at night walking chains in parking lots at night,, which is still i guess dynamic,,

but walking hand rails!

i always thought static balance was hard up until moab when dlyan, aka slakinghigh broke it down to me and told me static balance is the way to go! and it not hard at all just takes a little getting used to..


i sent this 50ish foot round handrail,, it took a few tries, but once i took like 5 steps it was over, it was aswome,, its like something just clicked and BAM!!

static balance baby!!!


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Harlan you are such a kook!!!
So,, you are wandering around in the frigid Chicago nights amusing yourself with parking lot chains and hand rails???
That's my boy!
Seriously, get a work out during the day, and maybe sleep at night, hea!!!
Do some laps at that climbing gym, or find a yoga place or something.
But when your family finds out about your late night rendezvous with local handrails and lot chains.
They could blame those wild and crazy california slackliners for being a bad infulence on you!!!
So, tread lightly grasshopper!


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There are two trees in the park along the running trail at Fullerton by the LSD that are good for setting up on (though 23years older now). I've walked them all winter long and they can be a party when a big steady wind blows in off the lake. Used to walk them after midnight a lot as there are good lights and the cops would always leave me alone after a few slow drive bys. Once even walked some chains in the middle of the Eisenhower freeway late one night during a rescue mission after a friend's car died out there in a long -30 deg snap. You just have to get creative and persevere in Chicago...


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but latley i have been wandering around at night walking chains in parking lots at night

Here's an 80' Cable that was tricky.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=25922

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=25921

You should check it out healyj. It's on Sandy Blvd.


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I'll keep my eye out for that one, my old one across from Junior's resturaunt got taken down this year...


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Har,
find a pole with a top diameter half as wide as the ball of your foot or less, and a fairly clear landing zone. place the ball of your foot on top, so it feels tippy in all directions. flail and try to hang on. this type of balance can throw you and make you save in all directions, 360 degrees around your body. whereas the slackline alnmost never tests your saves forward or backward, it is usually to the side angles on the slackline. If it feels easy find a new pole, it should be harder thaN slackline when you find the right diameter pole. Saving in all 360 degree directions feels weird at first, but give it a chance, it can be very challenging and rewarding. i have a metal pole at home, filled with concrete, and with a cement dome on top. the roundness makes it perfectly tippy in all directions on one foot, it is much harder to get your mind to react in full 360 degree 3D space. this is true static balance compared to a cable, the pole won't move at all, all the movement will be your inability to keep your body perfectly still, it is cool. let me know what you think,, late--Buddha


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:tinfoilhat: :troll:


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AND YEAH ,,,,




ITS ALL ABOUT,,,,,.....\\\




DA BEARS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

&


APPRECATION OF,,,,,,
,,,, DA

BALANCE,,






BEARS win the superbowl every 20 years...... didnt everyone know that??


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Har,
What the F were you on when you wrote that last post??????

And can i have some.?????

No worries, i'm immune to the negativity of others, my inner is STILL peace, young grasshopper.

Unc, didn't you teach this boy any manners, yet???????

LOL.


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He sure knows how to use his enter key. :lol:

Healyje: you're the only one in this thread so far that I haven't met and slacked with. You'll have to be invited to the next big slackfest! 8^)


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OH GEEEZE,,

yeah sorry everyone for that belligerent, rambeling post..

i guess i was a little overwelmed with the christmas cheer and socializing (aka, too much Jack D...)

ive heard about the negative results from drinking and driving, and drinking and dialing,, now i know that drinking and typing can also be an unpleasent thing...


so sorry to anyone if my words were offensive , i ment no disrespect, and defenitly not towards any of your beliefs,, or any stuff like that...

happyness to all and to all a good night


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Coldclimb,

Let me know when you have one and if you're ever down in PDX give a shout...


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here i am tuning my mental game...




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Nice pic Harlan, looks cold, were you in Chi-town??


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this is at a grade schools playground in chicago heights..

it was bad ass,, i took one fall my first go,it wasnt that bad ,, it was on wood chips,, but then i sent and it was great.. it was right before the snow/rain.....

there are a few vioducts

wouldnt that make for a narley picture,,, someone sending the rail while a metra train is haulin ass behind them :twisted: ..



how about climbing a pole and standing on top of it!!!!!
hell yeah,,, like a flag pole,,

like buddas idea with the round ball!! standing in one spot for however long,, on one foot of course..

motionless static balance,,, BABBY!!!!!


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i think i am going to go ahead and just delet that one post on the 23rd...


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Swings are always fun and impressive. Especially really tall ones. :D Playgrounds are awesome fun, with intense dynos and tons of rails to walk. I love playing in playgrounds, I work myself till I can hardly breath. I don't think I'm ever going to grow up. ;)


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yes playgrounds are tons of fun,,

you just have to know whne to set some perosonal limits,,,, let the kids play on the monkey bar,, dont kick them off off so you can walk across... :D


not often,,, but sometimes i just have to leave the park cause i can pick up that the parents think im some type of loony and they dont want their kids exposed to it..:oops: :shock: :lol:


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Smart Parents!
Hell I'm pretty sure you are LOONY!
Dude that swing set shot is Bad Ass!
You are really getten into this static stuff.
I'm not sure I would jump up there!
And I see you have learned how to post pictures, with your new computer!
Come back to so cal soon so you can teach me!


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http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_0482.jpg

So these two wires are connected to a pole,,,....


i am wondering how much weight one of these wire can hold,,, id say its about 80 or so feet long...

http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_0483.jpg

im sure those numbers will create some fun reverb action..


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http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_0482.jpg

So these two wires are connected to a pole,,,...

i totally thought this was going somewhere else...

i'm glad it didn't.

be careful out there, harlan. also, rad send of those swings.


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Hey that doubled, sign-infested rig in the parking lot looks like pure death from both the perspective of being inadequately clamped but principally because of the nasty dynamic and harmonics that would be set up by the the interaction of the top wire, bottom wire, and the signs inbetween. I suspect it would feel alternately sloppy, badly wobbily from the signs, and mercilessly short-lease, sideways jerked/constrained by the bottom wire. Not my idea of a good time but good eyes for thinking about it...


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Hey that doubled, sign-infested rig in the parking lot looks like pure death from both the perspective of being inadequately clamped but principally because of the nasty dynamic and harmonics that would be set up by the the interaction of the top wire, bottom wire, and the signs inbetween. I suspect it would feel alternately sloppy, badly wobbily from the signs, and mercilessly short-lease, sideways jerked/constrained by the bottom wire. Not my idea of a good time but good eyes for thinking about it...

Yeah I'm with you. I've tried walking long cables in the mountains here, left over from old mining operations in the '30s, and the reverb made it pretty much impossible for me. I understand why tightwire walkers guy their wire down to keep it from moving.

The car dealerships here all have nice chains to walk. It's tempting. And right next to the buisiest street in Anchorage too. :lol:


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Single cables are pretty much alright but when heavy and / or kinked can can take on a life of their own. Long lighter chains are particularly subject to "double waving" and "traveling waves" over their length if you really set one off badly. That results in the section in front of you and the one in back swinging to opposite sides at the same time and in the case of traveling waves having the crossover point traverse the lenght of the chain. It's dealable when it's coming at you but a bitch when it's coming from behind you. Chains also don't "give" even a shred which makes them static, but in a twister-with-a-solid-bottom-swing sort of way. And as the links get larger will can also tend to "roll" 90 degrees unexpectedly if they are twisted at all. That all said, I do like heavy cable and middling sized chain. Actually, webbing is what I like least of all and prefer 11mm dynamic or static line depending on how into bouncing or jumping I'm feeling.


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okay well thanks,,

so i understand the 'double' or 'traveling' reverbs that are created with solid long cables....

that is controlable,,,,

but the sign and the second wire is waht im not familiar with....

but.... really my main concern is the saftey thing....


well, to know that the thing isnt going to break on me.....



i hung from it a little near the ancor,,, but i wonder how it would hold up in the middle......

(does anyone know how much more force is applied to a line when weight is in the middle, apposed to the ancor???


but im pretty pumped to attempt this,,, i jsut aquired some leather gloves for hand saveage....



i mean it not all that bad,,, its like 13 or so feet high,,,

hey if i do it in the day time at least ill have the cars to break my fall .... haha.. no,, no,,, that wouldnt be that much fun at all...


i will have to catch the line if i fall....

i will have to jsut feel it out,,, first i have to figure out how to mount it,,, with that double wire and all...


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On a line that long, I'd say the force is going to be considerable. What are the consequences if it DOES break? You fall, hurt yourself, and break some shiny car? Sounds like a lot to wager. ;)

Which leads me to: Do you have permission? :lol:


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sending tennis nets are always fun :twisted:

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Which leads me to: Do you have permission? :lol:




permmission... :?: ......


:boring: ....


hahaha...



well the car thing is a good point,,, i cant afford to wager somebody elses car....



i'll just thave to do it at night time.... :shock:


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yeah,,,, those damn poles... if something were to fail, i think it would be the bolt breaking away from the pole...




and i dont like that there is only one clamp that holds that actual wire..


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gymslackerclimber,

I'd encourage you to think this one through. Think of how differently these two connected wires are going to behave given one will be directly loaded and the other loaded with a peculiar periodicity depending on your proximity to a sign. As you approach one of those signs and it starts to transfer your load to the lower cable the net effect will be to throw the top wire out laterally to one side or the other. Your best hope would be that the entire top wire and all the signs would lay to one side for the duration. of the walk. But it would likely be a function of the tensioning as to how much it would want to "spring" back up behind you and the feel would be entirely inconsistent as you moved towards, across, and away from each sign. Another worst case scenario is that out in the middle they would invert as in the top [loaded] cable would become the bottom cable and the old bottom cable would then lever your ankles off the whole rig. As for the clamping, sure it will hold if you hang on an end but not very likely once you're out in the middle - add clamps if you are crazy enough to go through with this. It looks like the only really plausible way to do it would be with a classic weighted drooping pole and even then it would likely suck.


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Yeah, just a guess but that line looks something like 120 feet long. The force on those anchors will be serious, especially in a fall. I don't know a whole lot about welding, so I can't really judge the strength of those anchors though. I probably wouldn't do it. :?


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so the proper term for this spinoff of slacklining would be... static-lining?


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so the proper term for this spinoff of slacklining would be... static-lining?

Actually I think this would be a lesser quality slackwire, which has been around much longer. Slacklining is the spinoff. :wink:


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Yep, this stuff has been around since man has had rope and any leisure time at all. Wire in every conceivable form has undoubtable been done ad nausem since its availability. My fave being the bouncy Russions with their jumps and flips...


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thanks guys,, for discuarging me..
healyj, i never considered any 'twisting action' that might happen after the top lione becomes tensioned,,,, the fact that those metal pannels are attached to the bottom wire as well as the top,,,, their would have to be some type of twist factor.....

so bottom line ,,, i really dont want to break anything, including myself,,, and......

:tinfoilhat:


well its scary....




another line for a nother day...


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My pleasure, this will be my thirtieth year of walking and trust me - you don't even want to know all the painful and stupid human tricks I've survived along the way...


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http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_0505.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/.../harwoodwallking.jpg


a little local balance... :) :)


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a little more local balance..

http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_0036.jpg

:righton:


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Can someone explain the difference between static and dynamic balance to me. I understand the definitions of the words but not exactlly the context.

static balance is blaance on any sort of solid object? While dynamic is on a object that reacts to your input?


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Can someone explain the difference between static and dynamic balance to me. I understand the definitions of the words but not exactlly the context.

static balance is blaance on any sort of solid object? While dynamic is on a object that reacts to your input?

Yeah pretty much. A static object does not move, so static balance would be walking a balance beam, or a railing, or a tight wire. In dynamic balance, what you're walking on is moving, like slack rope, a slackline, a chain, and such.


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static balance is blaance on any sort of solid object? While dynamic is on a object that reacts to your input?
i cant argue with that..


chains are always fun ... trying to capture a little surfing (with the old self timer) night-vision style
http://i5.photobucket.com/...acker/nightchain.jpg
every night the tension in this is different, tonight it was pretty darn loose.. and there used to be only one section of pbc pipe ,, i guess they decided it wasnt hard enough so they added a few more sections ...

the send is always an accomplishment. :twisted:


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I'm going to bump this thread for no reason other than I couldn't find a better place to show off this picture. :lol:

Taken by Prezwoodz

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Sweet shot, are those mukluks she's wearing?


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nice john, i like the swinger in action..

but tell me what does bumping a thread mean?


walking with the hands behind the back,, hard stuff..!


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nice john!!

walking with the hands tied- hard stuff..! but great fun.. :wink:

the swinger in motion is also cool..

what does the bump mean...?


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Bump means bumping this topic back up to the top of the list in the forums. And yes, those are some sort of modernized mukluk or similar leather boot of some sort. ;)


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Since I'm still up, I'll tell you that those would be Uggs rather than mukluks, and "bump" means to send a post back to the front page after it has faded into the past due to lack of activity.


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Cwazy!!! That was a tie, but I graciously let CC go first. :wink:


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I live in a suberb of chi-town. No one slacklines here... I heard about it at a summer camp, and up untill then, All i was doing was static balance on handrails... I find static much easier :-p perhaps its kuz i started on static... humph


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this was fun.
http://i5.photobucket.com/...52/gymslacker/11.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/...52/gymslacker/22.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/...52/gymslacker/33.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/...52/gymslacker/44.jpg


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i never realized the fabulous opportunities bleachers have

http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/IMG_2574.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/...slacker/watchout.jpg

walk up, walk across, walk diagonal ,you can really have a quality session :wink:


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Here's one of me above Vernal Falls on the way up to climb Half Dome, in Yosemite. Photo credit goes to prezwoodz.

http://www.alaskamountainforum.com/roadtrip/yosemite10.jpg


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haha nice~

its so purdy..


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