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troutboy


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Hello everyone,

So recently, due to the rising cost of higher education (which is a soapbox waiting to happen), I've been contemplating transferring away from my current school, Ithaca College. Problem is, I definitely want to be near some really pristine climbing, and I want a school with a climbing community. Any college users on RC.com have any suggestions for me? I'm a double major in history and anthropology. Let me know if anyone has a thought.

Zach

Well, the climbing isn't pristine (is that really what you are looking for, or did you use the word incorrectly ?) and you are already a NY resident, so SUNY New Paltz will put you very close to climbing and a cheap edumacation.

If you really want pristine climbing, ignore my advice because The Gunks are anything but.

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Wait, am I an idiot? Doesn't pristine mean extremely nice or especially perfect/beautiful... something along those lines?
And unfortunately, I'm not a NY state resident. I live in Massachusetts.


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zwillia1 wrote:
Wait, am I an idiot? Doesn't pristine mean extremely nice or especially perfect/beautiful... something along those lines?
And unfortunately, I'm not a NY state resident. I live in Massachusetts.

No, I doubt you're an idiot, but pristine implies like new or as new, undisturbed. To get that, you'll need an almost unclimbed area and no sign of chalk, bolts, anchors, slings, etc.....

from Merriam-Webster (OK, it's the online version because I'm a lazy slug)

1: belonging to the earliest period or state : original <the hypothetical pristine lunar atmosphere>
2 a: not spoiled, corrupted, or polluted (as by civilization) : pure <a pristine forest> b: fresh and clean as or as if new <used books in pristine condition>

Anyway, I thought maybe that's truly what you wanted (an attainable goal, I think, like maybe somewhere in the Winds ? or an undeveloped area), so that's why I asked, not to bust your chops about the definition Laugh.

So, SUNY New Paltz is out for both reasons then Wink.

Maybe somewhere in Utah, western Wyoming (Wind Rivers Range or Tetons) or California (Sierras) ?

TS


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hmmm, interesting. I think I've been using that word wrong for years... haha.

Anyone here know anything about Appalachian State? I've seen it posted around here a few times... can any graduates/current students tell me anything about the school in terms of community and in terms of academics?


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App St.....

mtn/college town. decent school.
great football team!!! 3 time reigning national champs.

rock, skiing/boarding close by.

also not too far from the WV stuff or the bigger NC stuff.

might also look at UNC Asheville. Possibly even WNC.


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AppState has a pretty large contingent of climbers (mostly boulderers, it would seem, even though its a stone's throw from Linville Gorge, amongst plenty of other perfectly tall rock). Don't know anything about the edumacation, though.


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You should choose a college by the quality of education you wish to receive.

You should choose a crag by the quality of routes you wish to climb.

When you mix the two, you're going to have to end up compromising.

There's no harm in climbing shitty routes... but if you spend your time and money on a shitty education...

...you draw your own conclusion there.


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i am a student at app state, and it is fantastic for climbing. great bouldering all over, and the climbing community is pretty big. our university climbing wall is one of the best on the east coast, 50 ft. and bouldering area. the location is just so beautiful, i love it here. you should definitaly check it out, i think you might like it here at app.


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 I'm originaly from Mass as well, and currently attend Fort Lewis College in Durango CO.

If you're into trad, this is about as good a spot as it gets; Moab, Indian Creek and the rest of the south east Utah desert are about 2-3 hours drive.

Durango itself has great bouldering and trad, as well as steep limestone sport climbing. For more sport, there is Penitente canyon 2 hours east. I think FLC has a pretty strong anthro program too. Check it out.


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Plymouth State in NH. Close to mass and about 10 minutes from Rumney. Also, about 30-45 minutes from Cannon, Whitehorse, Cathedral, Humphries, etc


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maestro8 wrote:
You should choose a college by the quality of education you wish to receive.

You should choose a crag by the quality of routes you wish to climb.

When you mix the two, you're going to have to end up compromising.

There's no harm in climbing shitty routes... but if you spend your time and money on a shitty education...

...you draw your own conclusion there.

Something they never tell you in high school is that the quality of your education is often dictated by how livable you find the area to be. That is, if you don't want to be there, you're gonna spend a lot more time finding ways to deal with your distaste for the area, and a lot less time studying.

A happy student tends to be a successful student. Thus, if you've got several quality options, pick the one that fits your extracurricular interests the best.

/still picked Wyoming because it was cheap
//just not as cheap as living at home and going to CU


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petsfed wrote:
A happy student tends to be a successful student. Thus, if you've got several quality options, pick the one that fits your extracurricular interests the best.

Wise words IMHO. I went to a pretty decent undergrad school, nothing fantastic but well-ranked. However, I feel the education I received there was sub-par, as the physics department was small and poorly structured.

HOWEVER, I wouldn't trade my undergrad experience for anything. I was part of a truly unique theater/tech group that gave me experiences that I would never match at any other undergrad school. I regularly cut meaningless and useless classes to do far more enriching things. My grades never really suffered for it, and I will remember being backstage doing set changes for my first big concert (The Wallflowers) a lot more than I will remember some random Quantum Mechanics lecture. I learned a lot more about handling pressure mixing sound for televised events in the theater than I ever did sitting in an Electrodynamics final.

I ended up going to a really fantastic top-ranked graduate school, and hated every second. I ended up transferring out to a liberal arts college so I could have the free time to actually live my life. If you love school, then go to a great school where you'll work your ass off - if school is simply an avenue to a job for you, try to make your college years as enjoyable as you can. You'll never get them back so make the most of 'em.


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You can always take a not so climby school and grab it by the balls. When I started at uvm there was no climbing club to speak of. Now, after countless hours of hard work, we are over 200 members strong and sending trips out every weekend and a big trip out every semester.

It's all about how much you want to put in, it's not there for the taking, you have to make some things happen.

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