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djlachelt


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Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751


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Capt_Dirty_Pantaloons wrote:
I remember reading about a climber using duct tape for quicker access to gear while climb a really intense crack. What a bout a harness that uses standard gear loops but also some type of quick release mechanism for gear placement. Cutting down on the amount of lock off time needed when climbing difficult routes.

See the video "First Ascent". Didier used velcro for that exact purpose. If I remember right he had a specific cam stuck on the side of his harness, ready to go for a spot on Cobra Crack.


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djlachelt wrote:
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Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...


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adatesman wrote:
nkane wrote:
Go look at John Long's "we need to test everything dynamically" thread.

Do a controlled study on how static loading differs from dynamic loading on anchor systems.

Good lord NOO!!!!!!! JL and I have been kicking this around offline since his thread died down and last night I finally placed the order for the last piece of equipment I need to do it! My wife will kill me if it turns out that it was all for naught..... Its mine! MINE!!!11111

Wink

But seriously, I did just order the last of the equipment and am now waiting on word if one of the rope companies is willing to donate a spool of 7mm perlon for the testing. I had wanted this to be a surprise, but oh well. Smile

-a.

AAAAGH! Sorry to step on any toes, oh great Lord of the Lab. Tongue

I should have figured there was something in the works when that thread disappeared without going to 15 pages,


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...
My husband has a couple of these little boxes which he got from his grandfather:
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...KET_HAND_WARMER.html

They use charcoal sticks like these.
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...CHARCOAL_STICKS.html

That's about the most reusable handwarmer that I can think of that doesn't loose performance (though it does take a bit of effort because you have to get the charcoal sicks going).


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granite_grrl wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...
My husband has a couple of these little boxes which he got from his grandfather:
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...KET_HAND_WARMER.html

They use charcoal sticks like these.
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...CHARCOAL_STICKS.html

That's about the most reusable handwarmer that I can think of that doesn't loose performance (though it does take a bit of effort because you have to get the charcoal sicks going).

So, erm, you've a fire in your chalkbag?

I trust it works, but is that what they're saying? How big is it (will it fit nicely in the chalkbag)? How long does it last per session (will one light last all day or just 30min)? How long do the sticks last (will one burn in one day, or will it last several lightings)?

Sorry for questions, but that's pretty damn cool.

Thanks!


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.
Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751
That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...

These are re-usable, and they work the same every time, but they aren't nearly as good as the chemical warmers. They get nice and hot when you first activate them, but only stay hot for an hour or so, and mildly warm for another couple hours at absolute best. I use them as heat packs on sore muscles, but never bother taking them out with me. Also, for an equivalent amount of heat, a package of Hot Hands packets is a lot smaller and lighter.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...
My husband has a couple of these little boxes which he got from his grandfather:
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...KET_HAND_WARMER.html

They use charcoal sticks like these.
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...CHARCOAL_STICKS.html

That's about the most reusable handwarmer that I can think of that doesn't loose performance (though it does take a bit of effort because you have to get the charcoal sicks going).

So, erm, you've a fire in your chalkbag?

I trust it works, but is that what they're saying? How big is it (will it fit nicely in the chalkbag)? How long does it last per session (will one light last all day or just 30min)? How long do the sticks last (will one burn in one day, or will it last several lightings)?

Sorry for questions, but that's pretty damn cool.

Thanks!

I used to use these deer hunting. You do indeed have a "fire" in the little metal box, but its more of a hot ember than an open flame. The boxes are a little bit bigger than a deck of cards, and they burn quite a long time. Huddled in a tree stand in the Appalachians for hours at a time without moving, I would often stuff one down each of my boots and keep one in the big two-hand pocket on my hunting jacket. They worked amazingly well, but buying the charcoal sticks can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I've gone into Bass Pro already and they had the metal boxes but didn't sell the refills - sort of missing the point, don't ya think?


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Valarc wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...
My husband has a couple of these little boxes which he got from his grandfather:
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...KET_HAND_WARMER.html

They use charcoal sticks like these.
http://www.realoutdoors.co.uk/...CHARCOAL_STICKS.html

That's about the most reusable handwarmer that I can think of that doesn't loose performance (though it does take a bit of effort because you have to get the charcoal sicks going).

So, erm, you've a fire in your chalkbag?

I trust it works, but is that what they're saying? How big is it (will it fit nicely in the chalkbag)? How long does it last per session (will one light last all day or just 30min)? How long do the sticks last (will one burn in one day, or will it last several lightings)?

Sorry for questions, but that's pretty damn cool.

Thanks!

I used to use these deer hunting. You do indeed have a "fire" in the little metal box, but its more of a hot ember than an open flame. The boxes are a little bit bigger than a deck of cards, and they burn quite a long time. Huddled in a tree stand in the Appalachians for hours at a time without moving, I would often stuff one down each of my boots and keep one in the big two-hand pocket on my hunting jacket. They worked amazingly well, but buying the charcoal sticks can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I've gone into Bass Pro already and they had the metal boxes but didn't sell the refills - sort of missing the point, don't ya think?

Good to know, thanks...

I noticed on the links that GraniteGirl posted that the boxes were for sale but the refills were out of stock.


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Whatever you do, don't try to invent de-hydrated beer. That's my idea.


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how about an unmashable ham sandwich?


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looserock wrote:
I would write a thesis on an industrial engineering subject that will help you when you get a job. materials, finishes, coatings, paint, adhesives, ect
nkane wrote:
Go look at John Long's "we need to test everything dynamically" thread.

Do a controlled study on how static loading differs from dynamic loading on anchor systems.

You guys are missing a key point: the OP is an industrial design major, not engineering, not physics, not mechanical engineering. The OP's major is focused on the creative and aesthetic aspects of a product, not how much force it can hold or what anti-corrosion coating should be used.

Edited to add:
You might want to read the wiki entry to see what ID is and is not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_design


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Design a customizable, moldable foot bed for a climbing shoe.

Either the entire shoe, or a foot bed that can be transferred from your trad shoes to sport to bouldering shoes. Something that will be comfortable, take up any extra volume in the shoe, and very performance oriented.


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Isn't there a b0mbz for this kind of thing?


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marc801 wrote:
looserock wrote:
I would write a thesis on an industrial engineering subject that will help you when you get a job. materials, finishes, coatings, paint, adhesives, ect
nkane wrote:
Go look at John Long's "we need to test everything dynamically" thread.

Do a controlled study on how static loading differs from dynamic loading on anchor systems.

You guys are missing a key point: the OP is an industrial design major, not engineering, not physics, not mechanical engineering. The OP's major is focused on the creative and aesthetic aspects of a product, not how much force it can hold or what anti-corrosion coating should be used.

Edited to add:
You might want to read the wiki entry to see what ID is and is not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_design

Wait a sec - you want us to do homework in order help this dude with his homework?

Maybe he should design a more aesthetic crampon. Mine are too pointy.


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gblauer wrote:
Design a customizable, moldable foot bed for a climbing shoe.

Either the entire shoe, or a foot bed that can be transferred from your trad shoes to sport to bouldering shoes. Something that will be comfortable, take up any extra volume in the shoe, and very performance oriented.

Unless I'm reading you wrong, this exists already:

http://www.montrail.com/technologies_ctx.aspx

A friend has a pair of climbing shoes with this molding tech and she swears by them.


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adatesman wrote:
Good lord NOO!!!!!!! JL and I have been kicking this around offline since his thread died down and last night I finally placed the order for the last piece of equipment I need to do it! My wife will kill me if it turns out that it was all for naught..... Its mine! MINE!!!11111

By now, the image I have of your wife is something like a snarling pit bull standing astride a pile of milled Friends and 1st-gen Camalots with a sign poking out of it that says "Aric Jr. -- College Fund." Laugh


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Here's another nugget from the RC.com brain trust for you to chew on.

Build me a rock climbing specific Hammer Drill. My Boch is WAY too heavy, and the thought of bolting on lead with it scares the crap out of me. Make one that I can operate with one hand, easy to carry and manipulate. Perhaps the batter (which accounts for most of the weight) could be made separate from the drill. You know, so I could carry it on my harness/back pack.

Now that I think of it, just make me an adapter so I can take the drill and battery I already have and carry them separately when ever/ how ever I want.

I can think of a few people who would buy one of those.


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I'm entirely serious about this.


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implant wrote:
make some type of ceramic (or whatever) box with heating coils inside of it that you can plug into your car's power supply thing that will heat up when it's plugged in. use it to warm your shoes up in the winter while youre on the way to the gym (or outside if youre one of those people)

im tired of warming my shoes up on the dashboard. the smell alone is reason enough to be annoying, sometimes they fall and land under my brake too.

$29.95, plug it in your lighter and it's all yours bubba!


or this one for $24.


$35.95


http://cozywinters.com/bootdryers/


or you can pony up the $149 and get the bag warmer!


"While you are driving to your favorite resort, your heatable gear bag can be plugged into the 12V outlet allowing the radiating heat and drying technology to warm your boots, gloves and socks. The large capacity, exceptionally insulated bag comes complete with a 120v and 12V power connection."

plenty more there.....


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
djlachelt wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Reusable hand warmers? Now that's something I'd get into.

Actually there is such a thing. http://www.rei.com/product/608751

That's interesting. Any idea if this works better than the old ski hand warmers that were also reusable? While they were reusable, they weren't nearly as good on the second try as the first, and on the third as the second, etc...

yeah, I had the same gripe about those "reusable" condoms that Trojan came out with a few years ago. Anyone remember those?


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I'm taking a proE class this semester, and I am working on designing a cam that has no welds or soldering on the axle, but instead has two piece lobes that fit together like a puzzle around a notched axle. The seams in the lobes will be placed in such a way that they will not be load bearing. I wouldn't climb on one, but it's a cool concept.


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Wow - thanks everyone, I had no idea I would get this much traffic and I have been taking some notes..

Marc801 - I'm used to people assuming I'm an engineer, I think that's the first time someone put out a correction for me Wink

and Meahtots - awesome shot, but looks like you've got the suction-pro down, all you need to do is drill a hole in the handle and add a sling. I'd whip on it..

I'm building a pretty decent list of ideas here - but I'll certainly read any more ideas - keep em coming if you want

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