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hey i hail from north jersey.... im looking to get into sport climbing as well as trad trying to figure out where the best sport climbing is??????


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The Library in Scranton/Wilkes Barre area for sport there is also some trad in that area..for trad it would have to be the Gunks


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yea no idea where that it???


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birdsboro is probably your best bet for sport. where in NJ are you?


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morris plains


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second birdsboro but might be a far drive for you


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Why does it have to be the best to start?
Which TRI STATE area?
Sorry I'm no help, I don't live out that way.


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I'd give a strong second to the library/main wall/paradise area in mocanaqua. There is a lot of great rock around there. Birdsboro would be about the same distance, maybe further, but lower quality rock.


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I agree with Joe,
Also, there is a granite sport area in the Tri State region PA/NJ border that is as good and almsot as large as Rumney--pretty similar routes too.

Joe, did Kotch ever take you there?
~Rob


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Yeah, I was blown away to see such good granite in New Jersey


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Skidemon27 wrote:
hey i hail from north jersey.... im looking to get into sport climbing as well as trad trying to figure out where the best sport climbing is??????

not sure about the best, but you can trad in allamuchy, the delaware water gap has both single and multipitch trad, and then there's the gunks, which is THE GUNKS good trad.

as for sport i've heard good things about birdsboro but never been there. I heard that the sport crag at the NJ/NY border is good but hard grades so if you are looking for more moderate might not be the best. do you have the rock climibing NJ guidebook?


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why arent you saying the name of the granite sport crag on the NJ/PA order


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I don't actually know the name and I'm not sure if there are access issues, I passed it on the ways to the gunks by the thruway at the border and someone pointed to a ridge, maybe someone wants to elaborate?


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i don't know anything about the sport crag on the nj/pa border that roclimb mentioned but if it is, in fact as good and as large as rumney then i would love to find out where it is. the transit cliffs is another sport crag on the NJ/NY border but it's technically off access. granted that doesn't stop a whole lot of people but technically you could get arrested for trespassing if you climb there.


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Skidemon27 wrote:
yea no idea where that is???

You may not kow where it is, but the routes section sure does


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coolcat83 wrote:
I don't actually know the name and I'm not sure if there are access issues, I passed it on the ways to the gunks by the thruway at the border and someone pointed to a ridge, maybe someone wants to elaborate?

Is this a troll or is there really sport climbing in this area? Can you describe how to get there/where it is, if you can't remember the name? A few posts seem to mention NJ/NY border and some NJ/PA border (which are a bit different). I can't really see anything in the data base which suggests such an area....bit confused. Would be great to have somewhere to clip closer than Rumney for the (very rare) times we don't go to the Gunks.


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smallclimber wrote:
coolcat83 wrote:
I don't actually know the name and I'm not sure if there are access issues, I passed it on the ways to the gunks by the thruway at the border and someone pointed to a ridge, maybe someone wants to elaborate?

Is this a troll or is there really sport climbing in this area? Can you describe how to get there/where it is, if you can't remember the name? A few posts seem to mention NJ/NY border and some NJ/PA border (which are a bit different). I can't really see anything in the data base which suggests such an area....bit confused. Would be great to have somewhere to clip closer than Rumney for the (very rare) times we don't go to the Gunks.
As I said I'm told its there, ill try to ask the guy who pointed to it about it and post if I can


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there is a rock band to your east above Duttonville off of 84 just below 1200'

it sits JUST north of the Orange/Sussex (county), NJ/NY (state) boundary line

Dryden Kuser Natural Area (NJ) technically ends at the county/state line

looks like a decent hike in, lots of vacant, undeveloped land north from the rock

access would need to be checked

never climbed there so no idea if those nasty metal things are all over the face of it or not

but there is rock almost right on the border there, for what it's worth


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roclimb wrote:
I agree with Joe,
Also, there is a granite sport area in the Tri State region PA/NJ border that is as good and almsot as large as Rumney--pretty similar routes too.

Joe, did Kotch ever take you there?
~Rob

Any more info on this crag? A few people have mentioned the NY/NJ border and the NJ/PA border, I am familiar with the crag on the NY/NJ border but not the PA, unless they are one in the same?


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might be one in the same, it is right by the tri-sect of the three states


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Yeah, it is near the NJ/NY/PA trisect. Some exploration should reveal where it is, along with the clues already given in this thread. Access is questionable, so sometimes places like this are better left for the adventurous type. Posting directions on the internet could jeopardize the access in the future with the inevitable influx of keyboard climbers. There are plenty of areas listed on this site to relieve the initial outdoor itch.

The Tri-state area is LOADED with rock. A large amount of it is secret/hidden/private/ect... One of the most exciting parts of outdoor climbing is the adventure and discovery of new rock. I am so grateful that the generations before me left some rock undocumented, for us to go out and hunt!


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Cush,

You are correct. That is the spot.

~Rob


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joeforte wrote:
Yeah, it is near the NJ/NY/PA trisect. Some exploration should reveal where it is, along with the clues already given in this thread. Access is questionable, so sometimes places like this are better left for the adventurous type. Posting directions on the internet could jeopardize the access in the future with the inevitable influx of keyboard climbers. There are plenty of areas listed on this site to relieve the initial outdoor itch.

The Tri-state area is LOADED with rock. A large amount of it is secret/hidden/private/ect... One of the most exciting parts of outdoor climbing is the adventure and discovery of new rock. I am so grateful that the generations before me left some rock undocumented, for us to go out and hunt!

100% agree, when I first started climbing people said I was screwed and there was no good climbing in jersey/ tristate area. Since then I have explored vast amounts of woods in the area and have found some awesome spots. And I was very pleased to see that none of them were in the route databases and I hope it stays that way.


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charley wrote:
Which TRI STATE area?
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Really. Almost every state is bordered by two others; I bet there are well over 100 possible combination and definitions of "tri-state."

Up here it means Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont.

Let me know if you want this moved to the Regional Discussions Forum, where it might get a new and more focused audience.

Cheers.


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I grew up in north Jersey....Delaware Water Gap is awesome!!! My sister lives in Blairstown and is looking at getting back into climbing.....The Gap is right off Rt 80....
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roclimb wrote:
I agree with Joe,
Also, there is a granite sport area in the Tri State region PA/NJ border that is as good and almsot as large as Rumney--pretty similar routes too.

Joe, did Kotch ever take you there?
~Rob

You've never been there, right? Has anyone? Can anyone verify that this supposed granite sport crag really exists, and is any good at all?

GO


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edge wrote:
charley wrote:
Which TRI STATE area?
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Really. Almost every state is bordered by two others; I bet there are well over 100 possible combination and definitions of "tri-state."

Up here it means Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont.

Let me know if you want this moved to the Regional Discussions Forum, where it might get a new and more focused audience.

Cheers.
I agree that there could be over a 100 "Tri-state areas in the country, but if you are bothering to post, then you most likely read that he's from North Jersey, which severely limits the "Tri-state" areas he might be referring to.


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cracklover wrote:
roclimb wrote:
I agree with Joe,
Also, there is a granite sport area in the Tri State region PA/NJ border that is as good and almsot as large as Rumney--pretty similar routes too.

Joe, did Kotch ever take you there?
~Rob

You've never been there, right? Has anyone? Can anyone verify that this supposed granite sport crag really exists, and is any good at all?

GO

Yeah, I've been there and yes, it is really good rock. A lot of it is undeveloped, but there there has got to be at least 75-100 routes and potential for 10x that amount. I was surprised to see such nice granite in New Jersey.

Does anyone know what kind of rock Wawayanda is? Those are supposedly some really nice cliffs as well.

If you drive up 87 through northern Jersey, and look off into the distant hillsides, you can see granite cliffs scattered all around. Some are better than others, and some are developed, others are not.


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bigjonnyc wrote:
edge wrote:
charley wrote:
Which TRI STATE area?
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Really. Almost every state is bordered by two others; I bet there are well over 100 possible combination and definitions of "tri-state."

Up here it means Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont.

Let me know if you want this moved to the Regional Discussions Forum, where it might get a new and more focused audience.

Cheers.
I agree that there could be over a 100 "Tri-state areas in the country, but if you are bothering to post, then you most likely read that he's from North Jersey, which severely limits the "Tri-state" areas he might be referring to.


You are both wrong.

There is only one Tri-State Area and it is NY, PA, NJ.


Maine, NH and VT are NEW ENGLAND.


Next you're going to tell me White Plains is Up State NY. Sheesh Tongue


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where is this place?


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cush wrote:
where is this place?

Read the full thread, all the info you need is on the first page.


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joeforte wrote:
cush wrote:
where is this place?

Read the full thread, all the info you need is on the first page.

The info isn't adding up, the crag im thinking of near the ny thruway on the border of jersey is great, but to my knowledge it is not granite, and there is definitely not 75 - 100 routes there as previously stated. So this is leading me to believe that some are talking about another crag. Maybe i'm wrong..

edit to add - Joe, I live practically in waywayanda, there is alot of potential for climbing here. The rock in the area you mentioned consists of some decent granite and in other areas chossy loose puddingstone. The area is fun to explore. How ever I have not yet found the multi pitch routes i've heard good things about.


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I wish I lived closer, because there is a LOT of land to explore, but I'll make sure to get out that way at least a few times this summer. Maybe we can meet up and exchange findings!


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I87 never goes through New Jersey, although it gets close at Suffern. After the Tapp, I87 runs westward, then turns north at Suffern. I287/RT17 intersect there.

The transit cliffs are in this area, but it is closed.

There's an exit to the right for Rt 17N. If you look to the N/NE, you'll see a few crags off in the distance. That's all part of Harriman State Park, which is also closed to climbing. Most everything on the right of I87 is part of Harriman.

On the left you'll see some crags now and then, which are probably all on private land. There are some public lands to the west, notably Sterling Forest, but climbing is prohibited there.

There is probably a lot of rock that could be developed, but I suspect most of it is off-limits.


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i have been to wawayanda and i couldnt find a damn thing...... where the hell are these rocks that people talk about in wawayanda


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If you went to the main entrance your never going to find it, do some research on the appalachian trail hike to wawayanda mountain/ pinwheels vista. Explore that area, and if you still cant find anything to climb then idk what to tell you. If you looking for sport climbing than you won't find it in wawayanda. Routes have been climbed, but its mostly all undeveloped.


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Just see this link

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/...weekend-getaways-2/]


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