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sungam


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sungam wrote:
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That fucker never ended up pushing MadMadMad

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Well, considering its his car and he basically pulled us up River Tower, I think he gets a pass. He 3/4 pushed on our drive back. I was driving and I helped him to start the car. I then jumped in the car and popped the clutch.
Whoah there, buddy - who the feck pulled me up fuckin' what?
Let's get one thing straight - I was there for the banter, no pulling was required.

Alright, this is true, but he did do most of the work.
Out of desire, not neccasity, though. No doubt it was an awesome effort by him.


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So the final series begins. This is the first part of Jeremiah's triumphant return to tackle the classic Castleton Tower.

Going back is yet another battle

The first few lines:

"- "Utah": Hey dude bra, I'm in Vegas and heading to the Creek soon. Give me a call and we'll meet up to do something gnar in the desert.

After listening to the message I knew I'd go back. How could I resist? The last time was a blast, the weather was prime and I hadn't climbed with "Utah" since we worked together just south of Poke 'O Moonshine in the 'Daks. There was just one small problem, I still couldn't get my car to start."



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I've always had the key turned to "on" before starting to push, so that all I need to do is pop the clutch when up to speed.
From eHow, How to push start a car:
http://www.ehow.com/..._push-start-car.html


Step 1
Make sure that the problem is either the battery or the starter: If the engine cranks ("rrr-rrr-rrr") when you turn the key, then the problem isn't the starter or the battery.

Step 2
Plan to have at least one person sitting in the driver's seat and one person pushing. Mid-size and large cars require two or three people to push, depending on the strength of the people and whether or not the car is parked on an incline.

Step 3
Turn off all accessories (radio, wipers, lamps).

Step 4
Turn the key to the "on" position.

Step 5
Depress the clutch pedal with your foot.

Step 6
Put the transmission in first or second gear.

Step 7
Release the hand brake and the foot brake.

Step 8
Note that the people pushing need to get the car rolling as fast as they can. This works best down a hill or an incline.

Step 9
Release the clutch pedal while giving the engine a little gas with the gas pedal once the car is moving about as fast as you can run. The engine should start.



And some tips from wikiHow:

Tips

* The reason that it is usually best to push start it in second gear is because it will be a far smoother start with less of a jolt, so there is less wear on the clutch and transmission. However, if you only have a short distance to push start the car in, or you don't have much speed, first gear may be better.

* If this doesn't work the first time, give it another shot and let it get going a little faster before you pop the clutch.

* Release the clutch very quickly; if you ease it out, your engine will not start.


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heh ^^


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marc801 wrote:
donald949 wrote:
I've always had the key turned to "on" before starting to push, so that all I need to do is pop the clutch when up to speed.
From eHow, How to push start a car:
http://www.ehow.com/..._push-start-car.html


Step 1
Make sure that the problem is either the battery or the starter: If the engine cranks ("rrr-rrr-rrr") when you turn the key, then the problem isn't the starter or the battery.

Step 2
Plan to have at least one person sitting in the driver's seat and one person pushing. Mid-size and large cars require two or three people to push, depending on the strength of the people and whether or not the car is parked on an incline.

Step 3
Turn off all accessories (radio, wipers, lamps).

Step 4
Turn the key to the "on" position.

Step 5
Depress the clutch pedal with your foot.

Step 6
Put the transmission in first or second gear.

Step 7
Release the hand brake and the foot brake.

Step 8
Note that the people pushing need to get the car rolling as fast as they can. This works best down a hill or an incline.

Step 9
Release the clutch pedal while giving the engine a little gas with the gas pedal once the car is moving about as fast as you can run. The engine should start.



And some tips from wikiHow:

Tips

* The reason that it is usually best to push start it in second gear is because it will be a far smoother start with less of a jolt, so there is less wear on the clutch and transmission. However, if you only have a short distance to push start the car in, or you don't have much speed, first gear may be better.

* If this doesn't work the first time, give it another shot and let it get going a little faster before you pop the clutch.

* Release the clutch very quickly; if you ease it out, your engine will not start.

Alright there you go, a blow by blow account of ehow to. Anyrate, it also works in reverse. But it doesn't work on my 7000 pound Suburban.


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donald949 wrote:

But it doesn't work on my 7000 pound Suburban.

pfftt... I could push it


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
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But it doesn't work on my 7000 pound Suburban.

pfftt... I could push it
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


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sungam wrote:
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But it doesn't work on my 7000 pound Suburban.

pfftt... I could push it
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Mad


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
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But it doesn't work on my 7000 pound Suburban.

pfftt... I could push it
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Mad

I'm sure you could,
well maybe.
Either way, its an auto, so no popping da clutch.Mad


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
That fucker never ended up pushing MadMadMad

LaughLaugh

Well, considering its his car and he basically pulled us up River Tower, I think he gets a pass. He 3/4 pushed on our drive back. I was driving and I helped him to start the car. I then jumped in the car and popped the clutch.

That works if you're by yourself. Although being on a slight down hill helps so you don't slow down to much as you jump in the car...


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donald949 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
That fucker never ended up pushing MadMadMad

LaughLaugh

Well, considering its his car and he basically pulled us up River Tower, I think he gets a pass. He 3/4 pushed on our drive back. I was driving and I helped him to start the car. I then jumped in the car and popped the clutch.

That works if you're by yourself. Although being on a slight down hill helps so you don't slow down to much as you jump in the car...

just make sure you don't trip, face plant into the open door, belly flop onto the ground and watch the car roll faster and faster away from you.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
donald949 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
That fucker never ended up pushing MadMadMad

LaughLaugh

Well, considering its his car and he basically pulled us up River Tower, I think he gets a pass. He 3/4 pushed on our drive back. I was driving and I helped him to start the car. I then jumped in the car and popped the clutch.

That works if you're by yourself. Although being on a slight down hill helps so you don't slow down to much as you jump in the car...

just make sure you don't trip, face plant into the open door, belly flop onto the ground and watch the car roll faster and faster away from you.
Yea, that would be bad. Don't do that...Crazy


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About the whiteness on the rope business . . . any of you climbing with some loose chalk?


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About the whiteness on the rope business . . . any of you climbing with some loose chalk?

No, not that I know of. I'm pretty sure Jello uses a chalk ball. Just not sure why it would be that way in that one, specific spot. I really think it was the rock doing it.


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My chalkbag was closed that day. Not much use with the rock being dusty, muddy, crap.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
spikeddem wrote:
About the whiteness on the rope business . . . any of you climbing with some loose chalk?

No, not that I know of. I'm pretty sure Jello uses a chalk ball. Just not sure why it would be that way in that one, specific spot. I really think it was the rock doing it.
I haven't been there, but in general the rock in that part of the country is red orange in color due to its high iron oxide (rust) content. So the rock under the surface layer of rust, can be another color. Apparently it was white at that spot. That would have freaked me out too. So maybe it was chalk...Crazy


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Great read guys! Enjoyed every episode!


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kachoong wrote:
Great read guys! Enjoyed every episode!

Jello has another post up. I haven't edited yet, though. Give me a few hours before reading the Castleton post.


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Step 6
Put the transmission in first or second gear.

Wrong!
Guess they've never done it much.

The engine will turn more times and easier at slower speeds if you push, than pop the clutch in third or fourth gear.
In 1st or 2nd you'll get maybe one, two turns on the engine usually followed by a screech from the tires not turning any more from the resistance created from lower gears. Don't use first and depending on the gearing don't use second either.

edited for clarity


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Shit, we were using first. it was hard work.


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sungam wrote:
Shit, we were using first. it was hard work.

You mean like the time it took him 200 feet to punch it out of the library parking lot...and then we stopped 200 feet later for free food?


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Jello's double Castleton day is up - a far cry downwind from our River Tower experience.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Shit, we were using first. it was hard work.

You mean like the time it took him 200 feet to punch it out of the library parking lot...and then we stopped 200 feet later for free food?
Free food is worth anything. It's food, and it's free.


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Shit, we were using first. it was hard work.

You mean like the time it took him 200 feet to punch it out of the library parking lot...and then we stopped 200 feet later for free food?
Free food is worth anything. It's food, and it's free.

And it was good, too. I needed to refuel after all that pushing. It was a good call.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Shit, we were using first. it was hard work.

You mean like the time it took him 200 feet to punch it out of the library parking lot...and then we stopped 200 feet later for free food?
Free food is worth anything. It's food, and it's free.

And it was good, too. I needed to refuel after all that pushing. It was a good call.
Was it pizza that day>?
At the free food center in SLC they gave me one of the best doughnuts I have EVAR had.

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