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Jan 28, 2014, 6:58 AM
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One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO

I like winter. I just don't like driving in snow storms.

The hardest drytooling route I've redpointed that Nathan recently bolted is also called Pickpocket, on account there are a lot of pockets. Things are getting scritched up now though so they're getting easier to pick.

Yep, I like it too. We just got two or three inches of snow yesterday/last night. Today it's perfect blue skies, but cold. It'll be melted/evaporated in a couple days, and probably fifty-five to sixty again this weekend.

The weather here most definitely does not suck.

Oh, and that's an awesome name for a drytool route. Too bad you have no ethics you chipper.

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Jan 28, 2014, 7:09 AM
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granite_grrl wrote:
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lena_chita wrote:
One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO

I like winter. I just don't like driving in snow storms.

The hardest drytooling route I've redpointed that Nathan recently bolted is also called Pickpocket, on account there are a lot of pockets. Things are getting scritched up now though so they're getting easier to pick.

Yep, I like it too. We just got two or three inches of snow yesterday/last night. Today it's perfect blue skies, but cold. It'll be melted/evaporated in a couple days, and probably fifty-five to sixty again this weekend.

The weather here most definitely does not suck.

Oh, and that's an awesome name for a drytool route. Too bad you have no ethics you chipper.

GO

When choss breaks I don't think you consider it chipping.

Was drytooling on Canadian Sheild granite this past weekend. That shit will dull your picks in a hurry.


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Jan 28, 2014, 7:13 AM
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Trying to convince Datesman he should go into manufacturing picks...or at least manufacture enough to sell to me. I've been drytooling on those Russian Krukonogi picks, but they're not the easiest to get your hand onto.


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Jan 28, 2014, 7:59 AM
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Snomagedon again. Getting snow in my boots is getting old.

That is awl.

good lord, the snow is melting way to fast out west. sucks for skiing


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Snomagedon again. Getting snow in my boots is getting old.

That is awl.

good lord, the snow is melting way to fast out west. sucks for skiing

What?! I can't hear you in my snow tunnel!

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/...nel-through/18127307


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Jan 28, 2014, 8:28 AM
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One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO

I like winter. I just don't like driving in snow storms.

The hardest drytooling route I've redpointed that Nathan recently bolted is also called Pickpocket, on account there are a lot of pockets. Things are getting scritched up now though so they're getting easier to pick.


Pickpocket must be a popular route name! There is one in Xzzz, too.

They had a partial road closure yesterday -- for tall vehicles.

My car handles the winter pretty well. But there are limits to what any car can do. Part of the problem around here is that whatever salt mix they are usually using around here just doesn't work very well in the unusually-cold temps we've been having.

I normally like winter as well as any other season, but I am feeling pretty done with it, by now.


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Jan 28, 2014, 8:38 AM
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Snomagedon again. Getting snow in my boots is getting old.

That is awl.

good lord, the snow is melting way to fast out west. sucks for skiing

What?! I can't hear you in my snow tunnel!

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/...nel-through/18127307
Who took a picture of my driveway?!?!?!


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Yeah, bit of snow yesterday, then temps dropped to dubble negatives last night (not no double negs?). I'm taking the ol xcountry skis out for the first time since I got them shipped out to Dubbya Vee, pretty psyched. I may actually go outto Lake Summersville and just skate ski across it; I've heard its completely frozen.

that's definitely what I would tell you if it wasn't actually completely frozen.


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Jan 28, 2014, 10:35 AM
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macherry wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
Snomagedon again. Getting snow in my boots is getting old.

That is awl.

good lord, the snow is melting way to fast out west. sucks for skiing

Yeah fuck this hardpacked shit. And, all the ice is sunbaked and way sketchy.


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What is this weather thing you speak of?


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granite_grrl wrote:
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lena_chita wrote:
One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO

I like winter. I just don't like driving in snow storms.

The hardest drytooling route I've redpointed that Nathan recently bolted is also called Pickpocket, on account there are a lot of pockets. Things are getting scritched up now though so they're getting easier to pick.

Pickpocket must be a popular route name! There is one in Xzzz, too.

It's such a popular name, it actually got tagged onto this route at Shelf even though it's not the real name. The real name of the route is Pick a Peck of Perfect Pulling Pockets. Yeah, Pickpocket is better.

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They had a partial road closure yesterday -- for tall vehicles.

My car handles the winter pretty well. But there are limits to what any car can do. Part of the problem around here is that whatever salt mix they are usually using around here just doesn't work very well in the unusually-cold temps we've been having.

I normally like winter as well as any other season, but I am feeling pretty done with it, by now.

Never thought I had any problem driving in the winter. Turns out bald tires != snow tires. The other day I fishtailed, overcorrected, and hit a tree (in super-slow-mo). I may have been distracted by the pissed off kitty in the car, since we were driving home from the vet and she was tearing around the inside of the car. Tree didn't do enough damage to require fixing, but got me to finally stop putting off buying new tires. Next time I might not be so lucky.

GO


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Snomagedon again. Getting snow in my boots is getting old.

That is awl.

good lord, the snow is melting way to fast out west. sucks for skiing

What?! I can't hear you in my snow tunnel!

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/...nel-through/18127307

whoa!

the way it's going out here, we won't have to shovel the roof. but, sucks for tourism and my work.


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Hmm. 73 degrees here today--80 by Thursday. Heh, it sucks to be you. Cool

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cracklover wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
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One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO

I like winter. I just don't like driving in snow storms.

The hardest drytooling route I've redpointed that Nathan recently bolted is also called Pickpocket, on account there are a lot of pockets. Things are getting scritched up now though so they're getting easier to pick.

Pickpocket must be a popular route name! There is one in Xzzz, too.

It's such a popular name, it actually got tagged onto this route at Shelf even though it's not the real name. The real name of the route is Pick a Peck of Perfect Pulling Pockets. Yeah, Pickpocket is better.

In reply to:
They had a partial road closure yesterday -- for tall vehicles.

My car handles the winter pretty well. But there are limits to what any car can do. Part of the problem around here is that whatever salt mix they are usually using around here just doesn't work very well in the unusually-cold temps we've been having.

I normally like winter as well as any other season, but I am feeling pretty done with it, by now.

Never thought I had any problem driving in the winter. Turns out bald tires != snow tires. The other day I fishtailed, overcorrected, and hit a tree (in super-slow-mo). I may have been distracted by the pissed off kitty in the car, since we were driving home from the vet and she was tearing around the inside of the car. Tree didn't do enough damage to require fixing, but got me to finally stop putting off buying new tires. Next time I might not be so lucky.

GO

Yeah, one spinout on the hill up to my house convinced me to bite the bullet and get new tires (get retired?) all around. Made my 2wd Taco a new vehicle!

Skiing was rad. Skate-skiing alone across the frozen, flat expanse of Lake Summersville was pretty otherworldly, and I covered about eight miles of cliffline in just a couple hours. It's pretty cool to have this place where you can DWS in the summer, climb most of the spring, fall, and winter, and then ski around during the arctic blast.


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ugh. Got on a rope at the gym last night... first time in 3 weeks. No endurance!! I may need to get rededicated here, but all my partners are leaving town to go climbing for the next month. No Bueno.

Apparetnly I have almost a year of GU to lap up


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snoopy138 wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
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lena_chita wrote:
Completely out of character for BET< but I thought this was a good read:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/01/do_what_you_love_love_what_you_do_an_omnipresent_mantra_that_s_bad_for_work.2.html

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Nowhere has the DWYL mantra been more devastating to its adherents than in academia. The average Ph.D. student of the mid-2000s forwent the easy money of finance and law (now slightly less easy) to live on a meager stipend in order to pursue his passion for Norse mythology or the history of Afro-Cuban music.

The reward for answering this higher calling is an academic employment marketplace in which about 41 percent of American faculty are adjunct professors—contract instructors who usually receive low pay, no benefits, no office, no job security, and no long-term stake in the schools where they work.

There are many factors that keep Ph.D.s providing such high-skilled labor for such low wages, including path dependency and the sunk costs of earning a Ph.D., but one of the strongest is how pervasively the DWYL doctrine is embedded in academia. Few other professions fuse the personal identity of their workers so intimately with the work output. Because academic research should be done out of pure love, the actual conditions of and compensation for this labor become afterthoughts, if they are considered at all.

In “Academic Labor, the Aesthetics of Management, and the Promise of Autonomous Work,” Sarah Brouillette writes of academic faculty, “[O]ur faith that our work offers non-material rewards, and is more integral to our identity than a ‘regular’ job would be, makes us ideal employees when the goal of management is to extract our labor’s maximum value at minimum cost.”

I'm thinking of you, camhead, Doc... and myself, of course.

If 41% of professors are way underpaid adjuncts, why is college so fucking expensive now?

You've got to support the college athletics program! Football, man! And basketball...

At many schools that spend significantly on football and basketball, those programs generate enough money to easily support themselves, including the exorbitant head coaches salaries, and often cover a lot of the additional athletic costs.

I'd like to see sources for this. Sure, some may be self-sustaining, but there is the penis-measuring contest of all the other schools that are mandated by social pressure to have a football(or ski, or water polo, or midget curling) team at every university certainly means that a lot of the less successful schools are losing a fair amount of money into the athletic black hole.

I mostly blame the decrease in state support and funding for public institutions. Call me a commie, but I think states (and their taxpayers) have a duty to support their students, as this support will pay dividends in the future. Unless you live in a shitty state with an aging population and youth flight(connecticut).

What's the cost to go to school in the States now? For classes and books I remember paying maybe $3.5k a semester (taking 6 classes instead of the regular 5 classes per semester), so $7k a year total (two semesters).

Talking to a guy at running this morning his daughter is going to school for ~$15k a year, but that includes living in a dorm. Which didn't seem too bad.

Oh, and in Canada there's no such thing as a state University. Cost would have been similar going to another University. I think as a resident in Quebec you get a big break though (the province of Quebec has the most social programs in Canada, but they also have the highest taxes. They seem happy with this).

I don't know what the average is, but I have heard $35k-50K. At Case, undergrad tuition is $41,420.00 for full-time. But it is misleading, somewhat, bc hardly anybody actually pays that, because of various grants, etc. Still, $41K? That is STAGGERING!

(source: http://www.case.edu/...r/bursar/tuition.htm)

$41k, holey smokes!
16k a year for MT residents, 30k a year for out of state students at MSU.

My first year of grad School was 11k. My third year was 24k.

wasn't there a lawsuit about that?

That is correct.

Years later, in 2008 I received a check since I was part of that class action. It was like $4200. Which was great, because it showed up the very week I bought the MoleStar, for $4200. ha ha! free wheels!

This all comes full circle today, when I sold the MoleStar Frown

I did sell it to Cornelius though, so I retain visitation rights.

Yeah, I was after the tuition had already gone up, we got no lawsuit $.

Sad news on teh molestar.

eh, not so sad, but it did mark the (overdue) end of an era.

I just wasn't using it much at all. The insurance was pretty cheap, but I had to shuffle it around the block all the time and irritate the neighbors, and it just doesn't make sense to drive it for weekend trips. Time to pass it along.

It probably won't be my last van though. But my grandpa sold his sweet van "The Blue Goose" and it did haunt him for years. I wasn't allowed to talk about it at family get togethers because then he'd just whine to my aunt for months.

A sad day in the anals of teh bet.


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One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO
Sorry, couldn't hear you through the tits deep powder I was skiing this weekend. But yeah, I need to tag along with you guys soon.

R&J has a swap night this Friday (7th) my membership to BRC gets me on fo' free, you two around?


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ugh. Got on a rope at the gym last night... first time in 3 weeks. No endurance!! I may need to get rededicated here, but all my partners are leaving town to go climbing for the next month. No Bueno.

Apparetnly I have almost a year of GU to lap up

Bets that he wont make it? I'm offering 3:1 odds against.


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ugh. Got on a rope at the gym last night... first time in 3 weeks. No endurance!! I may need to get rededicated here, but all my partners are leaving town to go climbing for the next month. No Bueno.

Apparetnly I have almost a year of GU to lap up

that is what happens when you disappear for a year.


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dr_feelgood wrote:
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ugh. Got on a rope at the gym last night... first time in 3 weeks. No endurance!! I may need to get rededicated here, but all my partners are leaving town to go climbing for the next month. No Bueno.

Apparetnly I have almost a year of GU to lap up

Bets that he wont make it? I'm offering 3:1 odds against.

He did have the latest start of anyone that read from teh beginning.


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Feb 3, 2014, 10:45 AM
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meatbomz wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
snoopy138 wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
snoopy138 wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
snoopy138 wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
Completely out of character for BET< but I thought this was a good read:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/01/do_what_you_love_love_what_you_do_an_omnipresent_mantra_that_s_bad_for_work.2.html

In reply to:
Nowhere has the DWYL mantra been more devastating to its adherents than in academia. The average Ph.D. student of the mid-2000s forwent the easy money of finance and law (now slightly less easy) to live on a meager stipend in order to pursue his passion for Norse mythology or the history of Afro-Cuban music.

The reward for answering this higher calling is an academic employment marketplace in which about 41 percent of American faculty are adjunct professors—contract instructors who usually receive low pay, no benefits, no office, no job security, and no long-term stake in the schools where they work.

There are many factors that keep Ph.D.s providing such high-skilled labor for such low wages, including path dependency and the sunk costs of earning a Ph.D., but one of the strongest is how pervasively the DWYL doctrine is embedded in academia. Few other professions fuse the personal identity of their workers so intimately with the work output. Because academic research should be done out of pure love, the actual conditions of and compensation for this labor become afterthoughts, if they are considered at all.

In “Academic Labor, the Aesthetics of Management, and the Promise of Autonomous Work,” Sarah Brouillette writes of academic faculty, “[O]ur faith that our work offers non-material rewards, and is more integral to our identity than a ‘regular’ job would be, makes us ideal employees when the goal of management is to extract our labor’s maximum value at minimum cost.”

I'm thinking of you, camhead, Doc... and myself, of course.

If 41% of professors are way underpaid adjuncts, why is college so fucking expensive now?

You've got to support the college athletics program! Football, man! And basketball...

At many schools that spend significantly on football and basketball, those programs generate enough money to easily support themselves, including the exorbitant head coaches salaries, and often cover a lot of the additional athletic costs.

I'd like to see sources for this. Sure, some may be self-sustaining, but there is the penis-measuring contest of all the other schools that are mandated by social pressure to have a football(or ski, or water polo, or midget curling) team at every university certainly means that a lot of the less successful schools are losing a fair amount of money into the athletic black hole.

I mostly blame the decrease in state support and funding for public institutions. Call me a commie, but I think states (and their taxpayers) have a duty to support their students, as this support will pay dividends in the future. Unless you live in a shitty state with an aging population and youth flight(connecticut).

What's the cost to go to school in the States now? For classes and books I remember paying maybe $3.5k a semester (taking 6 classes instead of the regular 5 classes per semester), so $7k a year total (two semesters).

Talking to a guy at running this morning his daughter is going to school for ~$15k a year, but that includes living in a dorm. Which didn't seem too bad.

Oh, and in Canada there's no such thing as a state University. Cost would have been similar going to another University. I think as a resident in Quebec you get a big break though (the province of Quebec has the most social programs in Canada, but they also have the highest taxes. They seem happy with this).

I don't know what the average is, but I have heard $35k-50K. At Case, undergrad tuition is $41,420.00 for full-time. But it is misleading, somewhat, bc hardly anybody actually pays that, because of various grants, etc. Still, $41K? That is STAGGERING!

(source: http://www.case.edu/...r/bursar/tuition.htm)

$41k, holey smokes!
16k a year for MT residents, 30k a year for out of state students at MSU.

My first year of grad School was 11k. My third year was 24k.

wasn't there a lawsuit about that?

That is correct.

Years later, in 2008 I received a check since I was part of that class action. It was like $4200. Which was great, because it showed up the very week I bought the MoleStar, for $4200. ha ha! free wheels!

This all comes full circle today, when I sold the MoleStar Frown

I did sell it to Cornelius though, so I retain visitation rights.

Yeah, I was after the tuition had already gone up, we got no lawsuit $.

Sad news on teh molestar.

eh, not so sad, but it did mark the (overdue) end of an era.

I just wasn't using it much at all. The insurance was pretty cheap, but I had to shuffle it around the block all the time and irritate the neighbors, and it just doesn't make sense to drive it for weekend trips. Time to pass it along.

It probably won't be my last van though. But my grandpa sold his sweet van "The Blue Goose" and it did haunt him for years. I wasn't allowed to talk about it at family get togethers because then he'd just whine to my aunt for months.

A sad day in the anals of teh bet.

This was not from a year ago, Donnie! You'z raping in!


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Hey gerkz! weakend report:

I drove up to Gnu York this weekend to get out of Dubbya Vee for a bit. Went resort skiing for the first time since I was 15. It was fun, not as icy as I thought eastern skiing would be, but the resort was close enough to Jersey that there was a high douche factor of NJ snowboreders all over the place. The actually managed to get out to the Gunks yesterday, climbed for half day before it started cold raining. I fergawt how awesome that place is, especially when nobody's there.

I was supposed to head back to Appalachia this morning, but got hit with a huge snowstorm that I am not psyched on driving in, so I'm hanging at a fiernd's house and trying to be responsible on the internets.


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cracklover wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
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One hand sticking from under the snow, waving cheerfully. Hi, gerks! Anyone has an avalanche shovel? The snow cornice above my patio door is threatening to collapse.

So I started my drive from St. Catharines to Owen Sound this morning. We already drove through a snow storm last night, but the roads were only wet when we got to Lake Ontario. This morning the roads in Niagara were covered.

The drive on the main highway was super slow this morning. Bunch of fucknuts and amazingly jerky drivers. They want to drive slow but get all agro when you try to pass them. Anyway, this part took about twice as long as it should.

The minute I hit the secondary highway that takes me up North there's stopped traffic and I guess an accident. I detour around, muddling my way around unknown streets and eventually get back to the main road. I should have turned back and headed back to St. Catharines.

I get stuck behind slow person after slow person. I curse them all, none of them with snow tires. I stop of a bagel and tea. At this point I'm over an hour behind.

Leave that town, roads are worse. Go through the next town, roads are even worse. I think to myself, fuck, if these roads aren't closed what the hell are the closed roads like. Then my exit out of the next town is blocked with a nice "Road Closed" barricade. I consider turning back, but I was over two thrids of the way there and I really didn't want to drive back through what I just dealt with.

I hit up some other side roads. My little car fights to get through the unplowed streets. I decide it's better to risk the fine for being on a closed road than deal with that crap. Get back on the secondary highway. I'm thinking how it's good the road is closed because I desperatly and trying to stay on it in white out conditions and wouldn't know what to do if there was oncoming traffic.

I would have turned around at this point, but it was all I could do to keep the car going in a straight line forward. 20km later I finally get to the closed road barricade on the other end. So happy there wasn't a cop there or I would have been looking at a $200 fine.

Still white out, but at least the roads had been plowed so there were no drifts in the middle of the road to hit anymore. 5 hours later I finally hit Owen Sound....the drive normally takes 3 hours. What a fucking mess.

I hope I have water when I get back to my apartment this afternoon.

Blech. At least the snow is a good insulator, so maybe all your bits won't freeze and fall off if you stay inside...

Meanwhile, in ColoraSanDiego, had another good weekend at Shelf Road in the blazing sun. Didn't take the time to work on development, this time, since the wife was with me all weekend, and that's not her thing. Instead we worked on hard routes (for us).

She started working a route in earnest (Pickpocket). First time she's done that. She got past the frustration of it not coming easily, and started enjoying the process. Really proud of her for that. I worked a route (The French are Here) and got really good beta from the guy I was working it with. Sent it on Sunday, right after he did. Sweet. Then, just to piss off everyone I was with, I flashed the project they'd been working on all weekend. Even sweeterer.

Wish I had pics of all of us in our no-shirts and sportsbras, getting a tan in late January, just to piss off you sad snow- and ice-bound losers. I guess I'll have to make due with one from last winter of the wife crushing (in February):
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/492286-work-clipping2.jpg[/image]

Biner, you get what you're missing out on yet?

GO
Sorry, couldn't hear you through the tits deep powder I was skiing this weekend. But yeah, I need to tag along with you guys soon.

R&J has a swap night this Friday (7th) my membership to BRC gets me on fo' free, you two around?

BRC this friday? Let me talk it over with the missus. But sounds promising.

I'm actually pretty damn jealous - I wish I had been skiing this weekend instead of watching the Broncos get pounded.

At least it was a fun party - my wife and I were among the only straight folks, the rest were huge flamers. Literally huge - they're all into pumping iron and steroids. Very entertaining crew.

GO


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Hey gerkz! weakend report:

I drove up to Gnu York this weekend to get out of Dubbya Vee for a bit. Went resort skiing for the first time since I was 15. It was fun, not as icy as I thought eastern skiing would be, but the resort was close enough to Jersey that there was a high douche factor of NJ snowboreders all over the place. The actually managed to get out to the Gunks yesterday, climbed for half day before it started cold raining. I fergawt how awesome that place is, especially when nobody's there.

I was supposed to head back to Appalachia this morning, but got hit with a huge snowstorm that I am not psyched on driving in, so I'm hanging at a fiernd's house and trying to be responsible on the internets.

Fat chance of that!

You and responsibility don't fit well together. Heffe takes every chance he's got to tell people that he knows the new campground host, and I keep telling him, "no, shut up, SHUT UP! You do want people to like you, right?" Tongue


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ugh. Got on a rope at the gym last night... first time in 3 weeks. No endurance!! I may need to get rededicated here, but all my partners are leaving town to go climbing for the next month. No Bueno.

Apparetnly I have almost a year of GU to lap up

Your GU-lapping broke the interwebz and ruined RC for DAYS!

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