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lukebrown607


May 12, 2010, 4:34 PM
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Scotty1974. This is a forum on gear. So if you have nothing to contribute, you should go post somewhere else. You obviously are not suited for this discussion. Actually don't care what you have to say, but thought it comical that Shoo actually had some usefull input, and you are the one that is wasting everyone's time. Not that this thread makes any difference in the world. It's more for people with a mechanical background, obviously you do not understand.


scotty1974


May 13, 2010, 11:33 AM
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I actually have to laugh...are you trash talking me 3 months after the last post??

I ran back into this thread and forgot that there was even a internet battle I was involved in!! I guess we just all moved on with our lives....

That's great!!! Keep up the good work and keep the love alive!! Wink


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airscape


May 14, 2010, 4:02 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote:
Scotty1974. This is a forum on gear. So if you have nothing to contribute, you should go post somewhere else. You obviously are not suited for this discussion. Actually don't care what you have to say, but thought it comical that Shoo actually had some usefull input, and you are the one that is wasting everyone's time. Not that this thread makes any difference in the world. It's more for people with a mechanical background, obviously you do not understand.


Welcome! You sure are going to fit in nicely...

Edit: Never mind.


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shoo


May 14, 2010, 6:19 AM
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Dear Luke,
Scotty and I have long reconciled our differences. Since then, we have discovered a mutual love for small furry animals. They are delicious. To cut a long story short, we got married and have had two children. They're about your age, now.

-Shoo


airscape


May 14, 2010, 7:06 AM
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shoo wrote:
Dear Luke,
Scotty and I have long reconciled our differences. Since then, we have discovered a mutual love for small furry animals. They are delicious. To cut a long story short, we got married and have had two children. They're about your age, now.

-Shoo

Haha hehe tee hee.


scotty1974


May 14, 2010, 2:28 PM
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Dude! I almost choked on a piece of food!!! Sly

The only thing that made it come out is the fact I was lauging so hard!!!


lukebrown607


May 18, 2010, 5:49 PM
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I love it! I knew there was something weird going on. Don't want anyone to choke on small animals. Sorry if i offended you lovebirds. These forums get ridiculous sometimes (plus most everyone up here is a little nuts!).


gdstorrick


Jul 25, 2010, 8:59 AM
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Khoi wrote:
I do not see how it looks any different in quality compared to the Black Diamond ATC Guide or the Petzl Reverso 3. Perhaps it's the non-studio quality of the photos on Storrick's site?

<SNIP>

I can't be the only one who doesn't SEE a difference in quality when looking at these photos.

When I still maintained my site, I reduced all photos to 72dpi. Reducing their size allowed me to keep the web site within the size limits that I was paying for. Now that my site is gone, I feel that the "non-studio quality" issue is irrelevant.

Photos aside, I don't see an obvious "quality" difference in the "looks" of my samples of these two devices.

Gary


amyas


Jul 25, 2010, 6:09 PM
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i have tried both and prefer the guide as i seem to get bigger diameter ropes through with more ease. could just be me though.


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Jul 26, 2010, 12:58 PM
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I own three of the above mentioned devices, purchased about a year apart from each other. The BD is heaviest and I didn't like the orientation as much as the other two for belaying up the second(s). I find both the BD and Reverso3 suck with bigger ropes, so I went and tried the Ghost with slightly better results. The one thing about the Ghost I don't like, is the annoying cowbell sound it creates when not in use, and a slightly higher likely hood of it getting dropped if I am not careful. On smaller ropes (sub 10mm) I prefer the Rev3, larger ropes the Ghost wins.


amyas


Jul 26, 2010, 9:29 PM
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hey pilot who makes the ghost? and where did you pick it up?


pilot4life


Jul 27, 2010, 9:57 AM
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amyas wrote:
hey pilot who makes the ghost? and where did you pick it up?

I picked mine up at ClimbMax (www.climbmaxmountaineering.com) in Portland, OR, but they don't appear to sell on-line anymore. It is made by Kong.


ajkclay


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mrtristan wrote:
I've used both and I think each has its own merits. When belaying the second in autoblock mode, you can clip a Petzl Spirit biner through the hole on the bottom of the Reverso if you need to and use that to lower out/give slack. The hole is there on the BD, but you have to tie cord to it to get a biner through.

It is hard to belay up two seconds using fat ropes with the Reverso. I've heard it's easier with the BD but haven't used it for that purpose so I don't know.

You don't need to tie anything through it... thread a #6 stopper through and clip a biner to that.


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ajkclay wrote:
mrtristan wrote:
I've used both and I think each has its own merits. When belaying the second in autoblock mode, you can clip a Petzl Spirit biner through the hole on the bottom of the Reverso if you need to and use that to lower out/give slack. The hole is there on the BD, but you have to tie cord to it to get a biner through.

It is hard to belay up two seconds using fat ropes with the Reverso. I've heard it's easier with the BD but haven't used it for that purpose so I don't know.

You don't need to tie anything through it... thread a #6 stopper through and clip a biner to that.

or use any of the mini-biners made post-atc-guide, the new Nano, FS Mini, and Neutrino all fit in there. Id suspect quite a few others do as well.

or your nut tool. or a 8mm sling from mammut.


Cadmus


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rschap wrote:
Iím disappointed with both. I hate this new trend of putting teeth on belay devices and wish they would come out with an option that didnít have them in a reverso type device.
I have really liked the Simond Toucan. it does everything my reverso did with no teeth. I have not used the Toucan 2. It does cause a lot of rope twist when rapping but they all do.

Sorry for the bump.

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