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Five internets to Aric.

10 internets, a cookie AND a lolcat...



Thanks Aric!


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Hey Aric...

If you are reading this, just want to say thanks for all the effort you put into the Lab. It was really the only thing that kept me coming back to RC.com.

If I ever run into you in New Paltz again I'll buy you a beer (or two). Though not sure if I'd recognize you if you aren't standing on a pile of destroyed Aliens. :)

Cheers,

S


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Aric was the biggest contributor in the lab and the list of things he has done is just too long to mention here. I am still shocked and haven't figured out what happened here but loosing Aric is like loosing a great deal of first class climbing R&D work especially for a info seeking junkie like me.

Aric, drop me a line

majid_sabet@hotmail.com


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Aric,

Your going is a serious loss. Some friends don't even post here but periodically check in on your work.

What a fine bunch of boobs we are.

Bill L


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Aric, I haven't contributed to many of your threads but I have read many of them. Some of the information generated through your discussions has been useful for me and I'm sure many others. You have worked hard at gathering facts and creating information while others have unfortunately worked just as hard at being critical and destructive instead of constructive. This website is definitely less of a resource and frankly your loss should be an embarrassment to this website. Good luck in your endeavors.
Scott


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Aric,

I've followed many a thread and the Lab was the one thing that brought me back to RC.com (it's bookmarked directly).

I understand not wanting to leave certain threads unmaintained, but I will miss the information, the contributor, the spirit of curiosity and experimentation.

Where are we going to now?


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wiki wrote:



Thanks Aric!

Probably the most fitting internet goodbye I've seen. Never get tired of that picture.


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healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com


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Hey Aric, I hope you are reading all of these well wishes. All the best for the future where you land in the cyberworld. I have nothing but good things to say about you mate and very much wish that I will run into you someday buddy. I'd definitely buy you a beer even though I don't drink.


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philbox wrote:
Hey Aric, I hope you are reading all of these well wishes. All the best for the future where you land in the cyberworld. I have nothing but good things to say about you mate and very much wish that I will run into you someday buddy. I'd definitely buy you a beer even though I don't drink.

You're quite fortunate to have a "boss" here who doesn't mind a bit of dissent within the ranks.

Curt


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the_climber wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com

What the Crap!! Not sure what went down Aric but I appreciate all the hard work you did in The Lab.

Supra


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suprasoup wrote:
the_climber wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com

What the Crap!! Not sure what went down Aric but I appreciate all the hard work you did in The Lab.

Supra

Supra,

Aric is gone because he has childishly decided to leave RC.com (and take all his content with him) after being reprimanded and then relieved of his duties as a moderator for abusing both his authority and some of the site users here. I also appreciate all the work Aric put into the Lab Forum--but to feel sorry for him is, in my opinion, way off route.

Curt


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watching curt, jt512 and aric at each other is like watching a dog eat its own vomit. They know they shouldn't, but they just can't help it.

aric, sorry to see you go, thanks for all the contributions. Also sorry to see you undo all that good work in a deliberate attempt to hurt RC.com. You might get around to posting it elsewhere, but the value in those threads you've butchered is NOT just in your contributions, but in the interactions with others who posted.

There is no credit in this mess. Frown


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curt wrote:
suprasoup wrote:
the_climber wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com

What the Crap!! Not sure what went down Aric but I appreciate all the hard work you did in The Lab.

Supra

Supra,

Aric is gone because he has childishly decided to leave RC.com (and take all his content with him) after being reprimanded and then relieved of his duties as a moderator for abusing both his authority and some of the site users here. I also appreciate all the work Aric put into the Lab Forum--but to feel sorry for him is, in my opinion, way off route.

Curt

Two things:

1. This is stretching the truth to within an inch of breaking point.
2. With all that's gone on over the last couple of days, was that really necessary?

I know you're at least 20 years my senior - but seriously, grow up.


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roy_hinkley_jr wrote:
Have to disagree. His "contributions" were minimal at best and in some cases potentially harmful. Unfortunately Aric seldom understood the limitations of his knowledge, which often resulted in ill-conceived tests and/or poor interpretations of the results. Like much of pseudoscience, it sounds reasonable to the uninformed. And he'd get overly defensive when errors were pointed out. In the long run, this forum is truly better off without Aric.

So are you volunteering to pick up the reins since you obviously can do better?


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climboard wrote:
roy_hinkley_jr wrote:
Have to disagree. His "contributions" were minimal at best and in some cases potentially harmful. Unfortunately Aric seldom understood the limitations of his knowledge, which often resulted in ill-conceived tests and/or poor interpretations of the results. Like much of pseudoscience, it sounds reasonable to the uninformed. And he'd get overly defensive when errors were pointed out. In the long run, this forum is truly better off without Aric.

So are you volunteering to pick up the reins since you obviously can do better?

I have to agree with roy here. I think Aric was well intentioned but misguided a bit. I have 16 years in materials science, including overseeing QA labs for a Fortune 50 company, so I know a few things about testing. Aric's methodology, equipment, and interpretation of data left me cringing many times. The homemade cam competition etc. was a great idea however. He must have his reasons for deleting all his posts, but it does leave a mess.


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My point is that he put the effort forth and at a minimum started conversations around testing and provided some real data, which is more than most of us can say. I don't agree that this forum is better off without him and even if I did, I don't think a thread entitled "A kind farewell to adatesman" is the place to make such a statement.

I agree that deleting his posts made a mess and wished he didn't but I guess that is his call.


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curt wrote:
suprasoup wrote:
the_climber wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com

What the Crap!! Not sure what went down Aric but I appreciate all the hard work you did in The Lab.

Supra

Supra,

Aric is gone because he has childishly decided to leave RC.com (and take all his content with him) after being reprimanded and then relieved of his duties as a moderator for abusing both his authority and some of the site users here. I also appreciate all the work Aric put into the Lab Forum--but to feel sorry for him is, in my opinion, way off route.

Curt

Classless and juvenile, regardless of one's opinions of the water already under the bridge.


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climboard wrote:
My point is that he put the effort forth and at a minimum started conversations around testing and provided some real data, which is more than most of us can say.

Aric wouldn't have lasted a month in rec.climbing. His "data" would have been sliced and diced and he'd have left in a hissy fit. It just took longer here because of the moderation and few of the knowledgeable people care about rc.com.


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Can somebody objectively and chronologically explain what happened? Not someone who was involved in the argument.


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Rudmin wrote:
Can somebody objectively and chronologically explain what happened? Not someone who was involved in the argument.

You can look it up yourself in the S&F forum, and this isn't really the place for it.


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boymeetsrock wrote:
kennoyce wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

I'm not sure what went down, but I heard about it this morning in this thread. I truely hope that it wasn't USN that finally got to him enough to make him leave, but that would be my guess.

For those who don't know what went down see here, and here.


I have never seen so many people showing their asses as in that first thread. Wow!! Impressive.


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deleting Aric posts feels like library of congress had a bad fire

sh*t

this site had one valuable forum and tons of good threads are gone over some backdoor BS


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blondgecko wrote:
curt wrote:
suprasoup wrote:
the_climber wrote:
healyje wrote:
I clearly missed something, what the fuck went down that would cause Aric to leave?

Holy Fuck I must have missed something too.

If this is the real deal... Aric, should you end up on the Canadian side of the border, drop me a line (doesn't matter if it's for beers or climbs). the_climber at hotmail dot com

What the Crap!! Not sure what went down Aric but I appreciate all the hard work you did in The Lab.

Supra

Supra,

Aric is gone because he has childishly decided to leave RC.com (and take all his content with him) after being reprimanded and then relieved of his duties as a moderator for abusing both his authority and some of the site users here. I also appreciate all the work Aric put into the Lab Forum--but to feel sorry for him is, in my opinion, way off route.

Curt

Two things:

1. This is stretching the truth to within an inch of breaking point.
2. With all that's gone on over the last couple of days, was that really necessary?

I know you're at least 20 years my senior - but seriously, grow up.

1. My above summary for Supra is completely factually correct. Since you supposedly employ the scientific method for a living, I can't believe that you of all people, still support Aric. Open your eyes, go back to the "Suggestions & Feedback" forum and re-read ddt's comments on why he took the particular actions he did.

2. Was my post necessary? I'm not sure, but I'm certainly not going to let people continue to have the mistaken impression that Aric was somehow a victim in this mess. He caused this mess. And in fact, because he has willfully screwed up the usefulness of the "Lab" forum, he is the only person involved in this entire fiasco who has acted with malice and intent to do harm.

Curt


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Hey Curt,

All that being as it may, this is far from the time or place, unless you truly feel that Aric deserves to have you personally strip him of any and all recognition others of us would like to express.

Cheers,

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