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hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing


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Would you like to look like this?



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codral wrote:
hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

Why are you ending your sentences with two periods?

Jay


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why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot


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You're gonna need the regular gym too for that.


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codral wrote:
hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

Climbing isn't about being thin. Climbing is about moving on rock. Having a high strength to weight ratio is helpful if you want to climb hard stuff. If you put on a bunch of muscle, you won't climb as hard as if you didn't, but climbing hard doesn't seem to be your primary goal.

You can look good only from climbing, but chances are that for the body type that you want, you'll need to hit the weights as well. I don't think that you should be thinking about a body builder's diet. Body builders eat tons of food to put on weight, and put on a lot of fat in the process only to strip it off through extremely hard work pre-competition. Many body builders (and all pro body builders) are on steroids, HGH, insulin, and all types of other drugs to make the most of those diets. Put together a good, balanced diet that is CLEAN, with a slight increase in protein if you're going to be hitting the weights.


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why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

I would like to point out that this sound almost like a threat.. Which is funny because you started the thread wondering how to get jacked..


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codral wrote:
hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

You'll need to hit the regular gym too. At the very least you should be doing it for antagonistic muscles (e.g. chest, triceps, legs, etc) to prevent injury. But since it sounds like your goals are to gain muscle while staying lean, a "body builder's" diet combined with strength training (e.g. weights, cables, circuits, etc) would be an effective way of achieving your goals.

Having done this same plan last winter, I'll caution you to be careful of elbows, mine didn't enjoy the climbing + weight lifting regimen at first. Eventually they came around, but I had to ease into it over the course of several weeks. I still have to be careful with them during heavy climbing periods, as the combo of climbing and chest workouts (dumbbell bench press especially) will sore them up for days.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

I would like to point out that this sound almost like a threat.. Which is funny because you started the thread wondering how to get jacked..

Seemed like an effective defense to me


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codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

The question is, you fucking idiot, why don't you?

Jay

(*plonk*)


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xaniel2000 wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

I would like to point out that this sound almost like a threat.. Which is funny because you started the thread wondering how to get jacked..

Seemed like an effective defense to me

Not really..I for one have found this two peiod thingie (a i-lips??) hot..It says "these thoughts really aren't disconected enough that they get the full trailing off of an elipse, but still more than the slight breathing pause of a normal period.

And.... (4 for an extra large pause)

Damn.. Paused so long I forgot my thought.


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codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

That said, you're not likely to get a huge Ryan Reynolds build from climbing. If that's your goal, you should just google 'Ryan Reynolds Workout' - I'm sure there are tons of sites devoted to mimicking him.


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styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.


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serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosspot

No dumber than any other British word I suppose
- like calling a roll of toilet paper a "bog roll" Laugh


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jt512 wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

The question is, you fucking idiot, why don't you?

Jay

(*plonk*)

why aren't you


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Raiden wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosspot

No dumber than any other British word I suppose
- like calling a roll of toilet paper a "bog roll" Laugh

My post had a certain dry and subtle irony - no?


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mate do you even climb? or are you like the thousands of other little posers that jump on a forum to start shit just to make themselves feel like a sick cunt

every time i see a post from you you're bagging someone, think you need to neck up u fkn parrot


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times


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Lol yes I got it I just thought the wiki article was funny Tongue


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codral wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times

Which guy? I'm mates with onlly one person who posts here, and he rarerly posts here. In fact my "mate" doesn't often post because he didn't thought people were being less than kind. I thought they were being funny. I only have this one account. If someone agrees with me, it is purely accidental.


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xaniel2000 wrote:
codral wrote:
hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

You'll need to hit the regular gym too. At the very least you should be doing it for antagonistic muscles (e.g. chest, triceps, legs, etc) to prevent injury. But since it sounds like your goals are to gain muscle while staying lean, a "body builder's" diet combined with strength training (e.g. weights, cables, circuits, etc) would be an effective way of achieving your goals.

Having done this same plan last winter, I'll caution you to be careful of elbows, mine didn't enjoy the climbing + weight lifting regimen at first. Eventually they came around, but I had to ease into it over the course of several weeks. I still have to be careful with them during heavy climbing periods, as the combo of climbing and chest workouts (dumbbell bench press especially) will sore them up for days.

Yeh i actually quit boxing (did it for 3 years) to take up climbing.. my shoulders were really starting to struggle with all the extra training and i was overboxing. I have done plenty of cutting and bulking before so the diet part i pretty much have down pat, routinely used to put on a heap then cut like crazy just before a fight

I will start at the gym again.. Wasn't sure if growth would be impeded because i'd be working both slow and fast twitch muscle groups, not so sure how that works.

I'll get on a little half hour 3 day split and start a bulking diet again and see how i go


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codral wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times

There are actually only two people using these forums, and one of them is you.


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codral wrote:
xaniel2000 wrote:
codral wrote:
hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

You'll need to hit the regular gym too. At the very least you should be doing it for antagonistic muscles (e.g. chest, triceps, legs, etc) to prevent injury. But since it sounds like your goals are to gain muscle while staying lean, a "body builder's" diet combined with strength training (e.g. weights, cables, circuits, etc) would be an effective way of achieving your goals.

Having done this same plan last winter, I'll caution you to be careful of elbows, mine didn't enjoy the climbing + weight lifting regimen at first. Eventually they came around, but I had to ease into it over the course of several weeks. I still have to be careful with them during heavy climbing periods, as the combo of climbing and chest workouts (dumbbell bench press especially) will sore them up for days.

Yeh i actually quit boxing (did it for 3 years) to take up climbing.. my shoulders were really starting to struggle with all the extra training and i was overboxing. I have done plenty of cutting and bulking before so the diet part i pretty much have down pat, routinely used to put on a heap then cut like crazy just before a fight

I will start at the gym again.. Wasn't sure if growth would be impeded because i'd be working both slow and fast twitch muscle groups, not so sure how that works.

I'll get on a little half hour 3 day split and start a bulking diet again and see how i go

Well, the two periods are more effective than skipping a period.. I know they can be a pain, and when you have low body fat periods do tend to be skipped.. But, overall, skipping the periods can lead to other problems later in life..

Or it could be you have an answer in mind and are looking for validation that what you think is right is right.


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xaniel2000 wrote:
jt512 wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

The question is, you fucking idiot, why don't you?

Jay

(*plonk*)

why aren't you

Oops.


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styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times

There are actually only two people using these forums, and one of them is you.

too cryptic for me mate


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codral wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times

There are actually only two people using these forums, and one of them is you.

too cryptic for me mate

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Nov 30, 2010, 6:42 AM
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hey guys so i've been bouldering for 8 months and have improved a hell of alot and put on some muscle.. But i am 6 foot and weigh only 71kg's and it's starting to annoy me looking so thin.. I know that climbing is all about being thin but i climb to be fit so, i was wondering, if i get on a diet similar to a body builder, will i put on muscle or am i just looking at fat? I know that normal climbing is about endurance mainly and endurance muscles aren't big but i boulder and do alot of dyno's and normally power moves will build muscle.. And have seen lots of good climbers that don't just look anorexic..
So is there anyone on here that looks good, just from climbing or am i going to have to go to the gym as well? I'd love a ryan reynolds style build, roughly.. Will start going to the gym too if i can't put much muscle on climbing

You'll need to hit the regular gym too. At the very least you should be doing it for antagonistic muscles (e.g. chest, triceps, legs, etc) to prevent injury. But since it sounds like your goals are to gain muscle while staying lean, a "body builder's" diet combined with strength training (e.g. weights, cables, circuits, etc) would be an effective way of achieving your goals.

Having done this same plan last winter, I'll caution you to be careful of elbows, mine didn't enjoy the climbing + weight lifting regimen at first. Eventually they came around, but I had to ease into it over the course of several weeks. I still have to be careful with them during heavy climbing periods, as the combo of climbing and chest workouts (dumbbell bench press especially) will sore them up for days.

Yeh i actually quit boxing (did it for 3 years) to take up climbing.. my shoulders were really starting to struggle with all the extra training and i was overboxing. I have done plenty of cutting and bulking before so the diet part i pretty much have down pat, routinely used to put on a heap then cut like crazy just before a fight

I will start at the gym again.. Wasn't sure if growth would be impeded because i'd be working both slow and fast twitch muscle groups, not so sure how that works.

I'll get on a little half hour 3 day split and start a bulking diet again and see how i go

Interesting comment about slow vs fast muscles, I don't know what to make of that but perhaps another forum member does.

I did a "bulk" then "cut" phase in my climbing/fitness training last year, and I can tell you that it worked for me. Although be forewarned, my climbing suffered during the 'bulk' phase, not tremendously, but I was struggling to maintain my max as I gained muscle weight. Once I reached the 'cut' however, my climbing shot up and I surpassed my previous high points.

Having gone thru that sucky 'bulk' phase however, this year I'm planning on a more 'steady-state' approach, basically going to eat a 'cut' diet with carbs. I'm only expecting modest muscle gains but I'm happy where I'm at (for the most part).

Anyway my point is just that the bulk/cut and bodybuilder nutrition is applicable to climbing, albeit there's certainly caveats to be aware of, and it probably isn't the best plan for everyone's goals, unless your goals involve putting on muscle.


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I come from a competitive bodybuilding background and imo, the last thing you want are big, slow muscles. I hit a pretty big plateau about 4 years ago at midrange 5.12s that was really hard to push through. I wasn't super thin (still not) but I really revised everything I was doing in terms of training.

I periodize a la "Rock Prodigy" on this site but don't want to add much bulk. I can watch my forearms get larger during the hypertrophy, but they are "big, dumb" muscles. What I needed to do was train a lot of fast twitch and recruitment.

Part of my training is iso-kinetic stuff I adapted to climbing, which was a huge discovery and imo really helps. I adapted a bunch of stuff from this video...pay attention, I think "RoboQB's" dad is really accurate when he talks about bodybuilders versus athletes

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2009/01/video-of-s-troy-polamalu-iso-kinetic-workout/


But if you just want to get big, lots of strength training, low reps 6-8, and basic exercises like bench, clean and jerk, squat will definitely add bulk. It never did much for my climbing, but OMMV...


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
codral wrote:
styndall wrote:
codral wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
serpico wrote:
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why are you concerned about grammar u toss pot

Did you seriously call somebody a tosspot? Are you somehow posting from the year 1840?

If you note the location of the OP you will have your answer.


Toss-pot is still popular here in the UK as well, as is 'Tosser' and it's equivalent 'Wanker'.
All timeless classics.

Hmmm.... I checked the official RC.com to UK speak and Toss-pot wasn't there:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2074040#2074040

So I think you made those terms up.

And you are always there to stick up for this guy, are u like mates in real life and you've got this little thing going where you back each other up on forums, probably on a few different accounts, so it looks like someones agreeing with you at all times

There are actually only two people using these forums, and one of them is you.

too cryptic for me mate

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Nov 30, 2010, 11:16 PM
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well one of the reasons a bulk cut cycle works for alot of people is because lots of people don't realise that to put on muscle not only do you need protein but you need a big carb excess to actually do the physical recovery, so when you're on a bulk cycle you're just eating like crazy and it will help alot... I've seen people bulk and never drop it again actually, so it's not something you wanna bail on at the height of ur bulk phase ;P

My understanding was with reps of around 15-20 it's endurance, with about 8-10 is the best to build size and reps of about 3-5 is strength... I'm going to get on a diet i was on last year, 3300 calories, and get back on the protein shakes, will do some weights, just bi's and chest (i don't get much of a chest workout climbing) maybe a little back but my backs already pretty big, will include some leg press for the increased HGH release and see if i can put on about 5-6 kg's of muscle in the next few months. WOuld do more gym but my shoulders can't take it unfortunately


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