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This should work, a link to my facebook photos. The new gym I'm building.

http://www.facebook.com/...738&l=41f7ce249d

If this doesn't work, I'll add the album to my flickers and share that here instead.

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Eman
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How much does something like that cost to build?


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guangzhou wrote:
This should work, a link to my facebook photos. The new gym I'm building.

http://www.facebook.com/...738&l=41f7ce249d

If this doesn't work, I'll add the album to my flickers and share that here instead.

Cheers
Eman
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Yup, photos worked to non Facebook users. Well, except for the "dancing" photos, they just left scars on the retinas.

Thanks for providing the update.


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I recently read your rant on Camp5 in Malaysia, and now we see you opening 'Class 5' in Surabaya...

How did you come up with the name?


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Holy crap, that's huge!


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That is some exciting stuff, man!


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guangzhou wrote:
This should work, a link to my facebook photos. The new gym I'm building.

http://www.facebook.com/...738&l=41f7ce249d

If this doesn't work, I'll add the album to my flickers and share that here instead.

Cheers
Eman
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Outstanding! How tall is your highest climbing wall?


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I recently read your rant on Camp5 in Malaysia, and now we see you opening 'Class 5' in Surabaya...

How did you come up with the name?


CLASS 5 mean technical climbing on the climbing scale used in America. Trust me, I have been using the Class 5 Branding long before there was a Camp 5 out-there.

In the 90's I sold my images under the Class 5 Vision Brand.

Class 5 also has some history in the White Water rafting world.


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Yeah, I agree, it's huge. The biggest in Asia by far.

All three sides of the gym will be 15 meters high. (45 feet roughly)

We are adding anew section already to cover a unsightly wall before we open. Once, done, we will clear 8000 Square feet of climbing space place a bit of bouldering.

Eman


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Sweat man. Glad to see it coming together for you.


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Thanks, it's been a lot of work, but enjoying the journey and process for sure.

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Well, rock climbing in Indonesia is about to become more accessible. We're looking for a web-designer to hep create a combination web-page that will feature our climbing gym and be the source of real climbing information.

This week, crews are hard at work with painting the wall, laying the pipes for showers, and grouting tile floors. Monday, my router setters and I will go in and start setting some of the 150 routes. We're giving ourselves about 10 days to finish hanging 7000 handholds.

A few more photos at this link:
http://www.facebook.com/...6076.134416376640834





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Route Setting:

A few hundred handholds down, 6000 to go.

http://www.facebook.com/...d3c965e15&type=1


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6000 handholds now hung, another 1000 to go. Next week, ordering another 1000 to 1500 holds, running out of holds but not wall.


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guangzhou wrote:
running out of holds but not wall.
Heh.LaughLaugh


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Another 2500 holds ordered and on the way.


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Did you underestimate the number of holds our are you ordering then in batches?

Are they from the same company or are you mixing them up?


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for now, all holds are from the same company. I didn't completely underestimate the number of hold. Let's face it, I ordered 7000 (seven thousand) and with the boulder I need closer to 8000. We have enough to cover everything, I am just ordering more to set more routes.

We'll have about 175 routes and another 125 boulder problems by this time next week.


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That's awesome Eman I'm really happy for you.

Has the gym been officially opened yet? I bet you created quite a buzz around your neck of the woods.

Best of luck to you!


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WE JUST started staff training. I am guessing we open in another three weeks, around the 2nd of August.

Word is out, that's fr sure.


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Where are the volumes??!?!?!!? Volumes are essseeenttiallllllllllll.

Nice looking holds though!


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No volumes at this time. To be honest, I don't think my current client would appreciate volumes much yet.

I plan on adding volume in about a year, when I need the wall to fell different and some members can feel a change.


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Volumes? What's that?


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Stoves wrote:
Volumes? What's that?
Ever noticed a giant plywood pyrimid or similar bolted to a climbing wall to add a 3rd dimension instead of it just being flat? Volume.


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sungam wrote:
Stoves wrote:
Volumes? What's that?
Ever noticed a giant plywood pyrimid or similar bolted to a climbing wall to add a 3rd dimension instead of it just being flat? Volume.

http://shop.nicros.com/...lumes.html?limit=all

Apex, Ball, Cone, and Tri Angl volume = awesome. Not to mention V1 volume, but $500 is fairly expensive!


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I'm having a hard time finding it but there was a thread a while ago teaching how to make one. Does anyone here remembers it? Could not find in the search function.

I do think they are a nice addition to a gym but $500 a piece is a little crazy. Making your own is probably the best solution here.


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I pay anywhere between 20 and 100 USd for volumes here. Soon, I'll make Rep-Point handholds available in the U.S.

Local climbers work hard at making some nice gear here. Handmade leather chalk bags, handholds, and some other odds and ends. Would love to find someone who wants to handle distribution of Indonesian products in the U.S.

Eman


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Stoves wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding it but there was a thread a while ago teaching how to make one. Does anyone here remembers it? Could not find in the search function.

I do think they are a nice addition to a gym but $500 a piece is a little crazy. Making your own is probably the best solution here.

The $500 one is (in its longest dimension) probably 5 feet . . . so just buy the smaller ones.


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Class 5 staff will be giving free class this week and next. Stop by, learn the basics of climbing and scale the walls. Safety first, fun second.


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Class 5 staff will be giving free class this week and next. Stop by, learn the basics of climbing and scale the walls. Safety first, fun second.
Video record a quick tour of your new gym, then post it on YouTube, just like these people did for Big Rock Climbing Gym in Springfield, MO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVYzrlaEDo

You will obviously want a full-blown website as well--not merely Facebook. Too many people will be searching for a place to climb in Indonesia for you not to do that. I think goneclimbing.com is yours, unless innerdrama owns it.


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Thanks for the advise. People who search climbing in Indonesia already find me and my personal blog no problem.

With that said, yes, a website will come soon. Not a popular thing for a business like this in Indonesia to be honest. For one, internet speed is slow. Face-book works because of other reasons.

I do agree, we'll have a website for sure.

I also think that American Marketing strategies don't really work in INdonesia. Marketing is a culturally bais feild for sure.

Eman,


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Stoves wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding it but there was a thread a while ago teaching how to make one. Does anyone here remembers it? Could not find in the search function.

I do think they are a nice addition to a gym but $500 a piece is a little crazy. Making your own is probably the best solution here.

Edge was gonna write an article on it, but not sure if he ever got around. I've built five volumes for my gym. Three pyramids, 1 diamond, and two others out of wood. Much cheaper. Total cost of the project was maybe $250 with access to basic tools. The diamond was the hardest to do. Mounting is the hardest part.

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Can I ask the general size & layout of your gym. Did you build it yourself or have another company do it.
Specifically on framing (which is relative to height) did you use 3" angle iron, square tube or wood 2x6.
I am kind of thinking about doing the same.


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oops.. sorry... wrong guy to reply to


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Can I ask the general structure of the framing. Did you use 3" angle iron, square tube, welded or bolted.
And should I assume you did all CAD ahead of time.
I watched one here, and I think it took 5-6 months, with many guys cutting and welding.


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http://www.facebook.com/...376640834&type=1

Bolted and welded steel frame.Depending on where the metal is used, the size ranges from 3 inches up.

I designed the gym, had and architect draw out the blue prints and CAD it it for me. we then created a scale model of the gym. Wall labor was outsourced.


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Rockwerkx here is pretty slick... but expensive. I wish I could afford to build/extend higher a new building, as you have. For 40 feet high, that's a great weight of steel, and I had assumed welded square tube with the shapes being 3x1/4" angle anchored top & bottom. Obviously I would run it by engineers first and do the CAD. Lot's of money to be spent. I hope (and assume) you will do well.


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We'll do great. I am sure of it, so far, rhe response has been very positive.

Already booked two after school contracts with local private schools. Working on a third today.


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We're keeping busy at class 5. Response has been very positive for sure.

http://www.facebook.com/...e=1&notif_t=like


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Well, our doors have been open to the public for about three weeks now. Looks like we're average 100 day use visitors a day. Most have never climbed before, so we have to teach the basic the class 99% of people who have walked in the door.

They remember how to belay and tie in on the next couple visits, so that's a good sign. More importantly, they are bringing friends in to try it too.

The best tool for getting the word out has been facebook. People take photos, tag themselves, and share. The word spread extremely fast.


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Any plans for a speed climbing route?


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Wehave a speed climbing route set already. Set-up by a Indonesian national Climbing team member who specializes in Speed Climbing.

Current record is 6.2 seconds. (15 Meters)


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Wehave a speed climbing route set already. Set-up by a Indonesian national Climbing team member who specializes in Speed Climbing.

Current record is 6.2 seconds. (15 Meters)

Very nice. I'm interested in seeing how the public appreciation of them proceeds. Not very much interest here in the States yet.


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Speed climbing is very well recieved by non-climbing Indonesians for sure. It draws the biggest crowd during comps in Asia.


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Class 5 Recreational Climbing Center Team Building

Over 80 participant, both children and adults, from Surabaya International School, Indonesia, participated in various problem solving challenges that require planning, teamwork, and group communication.

Our first inbound program. While the program was going on, two other groups came in to see what we can offer. We now have another school and one hotel set up for team building.


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Wow, congrats on those contracts! Must be quite a boost to generate big sales in the first couple months.


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Thanks. I guess we did something right convening people to do programs early on. It's like any business, cold calling, face to face visit, and offering things to people who know nothing about what you do.

Show them what you do, what you can do, and how they benefit from it. After tht, they decide how to proceed.

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Great job on your facility. It looks awesome.

Nice to see you take your dream and make it happen. Good luck.

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Owning a climbing gym is not my dream, it's just a business decision in a market environment where a gym will be good business.

To be honest, in 25+ years climbing, I think I've spent less than 100 days in a climbing gym. When you consider I average 140 days of climbing a year, tells you how much I enjoy climbing gyms.

In this case, we have a nice facility and I will use it to train. (I don't need my garage wall any more. Should be able to get in good climbing shape now, physically.

In January, I"ll start running the outdoor climbing trips. I am much more comfortable guiding than running a gym.


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Class 5 Recreational Climbing Center in Surabaya, Indonesia is offering FREE Top Rope Belay Classes to all first time climbers. No reservation is needed to learn all the basic climbing skills to safely climb indoor.

This class is designed for those with no prior climbing experience. You'll learn the basic skills to get started climbing indoors including gym etiquette, harness use, knot tying, commands, belaying and lowering. On completion of this class, you will be prepared for a Top-Rope Certification Test.


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Well, four months of being opened all going well, at Class 5 Recreational Climbing Center. Considering that we are Indonesia's first Indoor Rock Climbing Gym, we're doing very well.

New people are trying daily, membership is growing and we're starting our outdoor trips in January. First Outdoor trip will be Celebrate New Years on the Rocks. (Jan 1st)

The cafe is also open and fully operational now, so is our wireless internet for guest and members.

After School School programs are almost full and we've hosted a dozen plus team building activities.

Importing gear is on track, wholesale operations started last months for the lines we represents. Retail sales doing well.

This time next year, we should be opening a second location in the Capital.

Website will be live later this week.

Cheers,
Eman


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Class 5 Recreational Climbing Center members who are top-rope qualified are invited to spend New Years Day on the rocks. We'll meet at Class 5 January 1 at 09:00. Class five will supply ropes and guides, participants need to bring their own personal gear. Stop by Class 5 to get your name on the list. (Free to Class 5 Members)


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hi Eman,

really nice thread and journey that you shared over here.

I m really admire and would like to start something like you.


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Thanks, guess I should update some.


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September of last year we opened Class 5 to the public. Started with a week of free climbing to anyone who showed up. This helped us get the word out and helped me train the staff with standardized systems.

Middle of September we officially opened for business and already had people with memberships. Our climbing gym membership has been growing steady ever since.

In November we started running out outdoor program. Guide rock climbing around East Java, Middle Java, and other parts of Indonesia. We also organized climbing trips to Thailand, Malaysia, and China.

In the last year, we've also consulted on three other climbing gym projects. One of those project had us visiting Saudi Arabia to refurbish a climbing wall, train a staff on basic climbing skills, and access the possibility of a bigger wall for the resort.

We've also teamed up with ENTRE PRISES Climbing Walls here in Indonesia and the surrounding area. A couple of interesting potential projects int he works.

We designed a simple website which is currently being redone. We also started an electronic newsletter. If you want to subscribe, go here: http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/...8dade&e=[UNIQID]

We've develop several programs here. From teaching schools to properly and safely use their walls, to organizing first ascent climbing trips in Indonesia, we're growing. Planning on a second location next year.

We also prive service to other gym in South East Asia. We can help with any aspect of operation. Climbing, management training, route setting, software implementation, membership tracking and much more. We also provide trained personnel to new and existing operations.

Next month we are launching our Indonesia Anchor Replacement initiative here. We're have three climbing areas on the list for this year that need anchors replaced, roughly 500 routes. Next year, we may create a non-profit to work on this issue, but for now, a few of us, and Class 5 are going to pay for the hardware.

We're also organizing "Indonesia First Ascent" programs now. On these trips, we teach climbers all the skills they need to safely put up first ascent. During the 7 to 15 days trip, climber will choose and establish new route(s) Depending on what they have in mind, we can arrange anything from single pitch sport routes to grade V big wall.


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