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ubu


Sep 22, 2011, 3:43 PM
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rrrADAM wrote:
there is no way in the world to graft a new idea on a closed mind

I like that.


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ubu wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
there is no way in the world to graft a new idea on a closed mind

I like that.

Me too... Or, as Bruce Lee once said:
"A closed mind cannot think freely."


In his defense, it seams his mind is open enough that all this relatively new Tea Party crap has influenced him so profoundly in such a short time... Therefore, perhaps this one really applies:
"It is good to have an open mind...
Just not so open that your brain falls out."



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traddad wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
ubu wrote:
It's just a meaningless mantra, repeated ad infinitum as part of the exercise in group meditation that has become so popular since Obama came to the Presidency.

aka Circle Jerk

Hollow but incendiary catch phrases like "big government" are how you keep an under educated and willfully ignorant rabble roused. It's also how you fool them into voting against their own best interest. This is profitable in the long term and thus well supported by corporations.
Of course the stooges are rarely self observant....so, lets have some more tea!

One of these days I'm going to write up my government-vs-market white paper that explains the specific sitiuations where 'the market' performs extremely poorly at effecting desired outcomes, and the economic reasons why.

I’ve identified five conditions where market-based systems perform extremely poorly, they are:

• Long-term strategic planning required
• Large collective benefit present that is unsequesterable within a market transaction
• Competition detrimental to desired outcomes
• Value-chain tension detrimental to desired outcomes
• Large scale R&D required

If we have something we want to achieve, as a nation, state, or community, and it happens to fit any of the above conditions, then government is possibly our best option.

Health care fits all 5 of those conditions, so it should come as no surprise that our system is about the worst one can imagine at achieving desired outcomes.

Not that the willfully ignorant 'government bad' crowd would understand any of it.


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DougMartin wrote:
Oh, and I love being nebulous! Its in a social workers [sic] DNA!

Given the above, and his profile saying he is a "counselor"... I wonder how much of his paycheck directly or indirectly comes from the government? The one he says should not be paying for "social" things.


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I often wonder how those that grew old long ago survived without social security. Hummmmm ,That is another interesting question!

If they weren't rich, they worked until they died, which was generally early.

And the leading cause of death among the elderly was poverty, or rather the results of poverty - lack of shelter, nutrition, and health care. Ahhh, if only we could return to the good old days of yesteryear, when we had old people dying in the streets.


ubu


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rrrADAM wrote:
DougMartin wrote:
Oh, and I love being nebulous! Its in a social workers [sic] DNA!

Given the above, and his profile saying he is a "counselor"... I wonder how much of his paycheck directly or indirectly comes from the government? The one he says should not be paying for "social" things.

Heh.

Is hypocrisy a prerequisite for being a conservative these days? Oh wait...


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I often wonder how those that grew old long ago survived without social security. Hummmmm ,That is another interesting question!

If they weren't rich, they worked until they died, which was generally early.

And the leading cause of death among the elderly was poverty, or rather the results of poverty - lack of shelter, nutrition, and health care. Ahhh, if only we could return to the good old days of yesteryear, when we had old people dying in the streets.

The only difference is this time we'll have a cheering squad to see them off.


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atg200 wrote:
Perhaps Haliburton will figure out a way to render poor useless old people into biofuel.

Ding Ding Ding!


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traddad wrote:
atg200 wrote:
Perhaps Haliburton will figure out a way to render poor useless old people into biofuel.

Ding Ding Ding!

Fill 'er up with Soylent, please. Cool

Curt


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ubu wrote:
hugepedro wrote:
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I often wonder how those that grew old long ago survived without social security. Hummmmm ,That is another interesting question!

If they weren't rich, they worked until they died, which was generally early.

And the leading cause of death among the elderly was poverty, or rather the results of poverty - lack of shelter, nutrition, and health care. Ahhh, if only we could return to the good old days of yesteryear, when we had old people dying in the streets.

The only difference is this time we'll have a cheering squad to see them off.

Look kids, over there are some old people dying! Hahahahaha! See? You'd better try to get a gold star this week on your portfolio. You don't want to end up like them, do you?


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These scumbags just can't help themselves.

"Audience Boos Gay Soldier At GOP Debate, Santorum Promises To Reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKtzOjAWGIE


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veganclimber wrote:
These scumbags just can't help themselves.

"Audience Boos Gay Soldier At GOP Debate, Santorum Promises To Reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKtzOjAWGIE

The party of hate and death.


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Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

Were you in the audience at that debate? I thought I heard you so I was just wondering.


ubu


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

There is a vast difference between "mean-spirited" and "intolerant of idiocy".


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

Ummmmmmmmmm...
veganclimber wrote:
These scumbags just can't help themselves.

"Audience Boos Gay Soldier At GOP Debate, Santorum Promises To Reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKtzOjAWGIE


Again... Proof positive that you cannot "find" things even when they are right in front of your face.




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"rrrADAM wrote:
Again... Proof positive that you cannot "find" things even when they are right in front of your face.


When your Fundie lifestyle choice requires complete denial of reality and common sense, you HAVE to have good data filters. Otherwise, life might make the rainbows and pink ponies cry.


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

I agree. This bunch is probably so mean-spirited they would cheer killing and people dying because of lack of healthcare, and boo an active duty soldier in Iraq. Bunch of a-holes I tell ya.


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hugepedro wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

I agree. This bunch is probably so mean-spirited they would cheer killing and people dying because of lack of healthcare, and boo an active duty soldier in Iraq. Bunch of a-holes I tell ya.

Republicans: The party of hate and death.


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You mean guys always scare away the $30,000 per year republicans!


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

It's a shame you don't own a mirror.

Curt


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.


when I read this I thought two things:

1. "this won't end well.."

and

2. "this is pretty easily refutable..."


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pinktricam wrote:
tradpuppy wrote:
Doug, just so you know, these are not "compassionate" liberals at all. They only play at it when it helps their argument. Otherwise, they are nasty and mean spirited. Just go back and explore some of their posts from the past few years...

I whole-heartedly agree. It would be tough to find a more nasty and mean-spirited bunch anywhere.

Mean spirited:
The the act of being giddy as a school girl over the belief that others will spend an eternity in damnation, pain and sorrow and you will not, simply because of the silly club you (think you) belong to.


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DougMartin wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Man, the soapbox hasn't been this heated since the last time enigma went off of her meds.

Gives me something to do on a rainy afternoon. Nothing like seeing how many bleeding hearts I can offend! The only other option is work, and that just sucks!


So you're saying that you'd rather go off your meds and troll here than work? I dunno, by you not working you're forcing me to help pay for those meds you're not taking. You're a socialist! Tongue

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