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ianwatson


Jan 4, 2012, 10:27 AM
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Juzzme wrote:
1st watch 127 hours then think about what you want to do.


at lest bring a sharper bigger knife.


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You can generally tell how experienced a climber is by how much he or she will avoid rapelling. The more one has climbed, generally the more adverse they are to rapelling.

For what you are looking at doing, you should google up some canyoneering forums. Their rap setups generally look pretty sketchy to me, but what you are interested in is right up their alley, not trad climbing.


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tolman_paul wrote:
For what you are looking at doing, you should google up some canyoneering forums. Their rap setups generally look pretty sketchy to me,...
What do you mean? What's wrong with these? Look perfectly sound to me.... Wink




Bad bolt in Eardley Canyon, San Rafael Swell.

Actually, the first one in Mindbender is just fine; the second, obviously not.

But on a serious note, you (the OP) should definitely read this section on ethics from Tom Jones Utah Canyoneering Guide:
http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/intro/ethics.php


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2) Leave a length of webbing and a biner. Presumably much easier to pull the rope but spendy with multiple drops. Also, I'm not crazy about leaving gear to rot and maybe tempting someone in the future to rap on badly deteriorated gear
That's what we call natural selection. It is the UIAAs suggested method. Check yo anchors before you hang got ass on em. But with that being said, I'd go w/ #1 probably, but it depends on area traffic. Doing that regularly can kill trees (then what you gonna' rap off of). Consider #3 out of the question. Given that you have to ask, I'll say you have no biz doing "rope tricks". Clip the wrong two lines & you are a gonner.


avalon420


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ianwatson wrote:
Juzzme wrote:
1st watch 127 hours then think about what you want to do.


at lest bring a sharper biger knife.
That guy was a arrogant douche. Understand that you are not god & leave at least a general idea of where you will be with a trusted individual. Solo isn't synonymous with dangerous, but stupid is. Don't be stupid & have a good/ safe trip.


dan2see


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The original poster was climber49er. His last post was a month ago, and he hasn't logged-in to rc.com since then.

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Do you think he did it?
Or was he just disgusted with too much advice, and dumped us all?


billcoe_


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Well, regardless. Maybe he's still out there now with the crows pecking at him. I've had some of those near misses myself and am glad to be in a warm building typing right now. I'm surprised no one mentioned that folks rap out of trees safety all the time and pull their rings down after them. RGOLD? You always have it so together, you missed this. Hah hah. You advice is of course otherwise excellent, as always.

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Think of this as your temp rap sling:

You have a knot in the rope sized to slide through the big ring but not the small one. When you pull your rope it will come down after you. Pretty simple. Check the arborist web sites for this info. They come in different lengths. Alternatively, you can just buy the rings and use your own webbing. Sewn is better IMO. I often rap directly off of trees. Keep the rope as high as you dare as it will generally be easier to pull, and if it seems stuck, flip the free end and pull the other to get it moving can be effective.


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So, I spend a lot of time pulling removable anchors from trees that do not damage them. I would suggest that in addition to canyoneering sites you also look at tree climbing sites for skillsto practice many times before you take them in the backcountry

Anybody will tell you that pull down trips are both more risky and require a greater knowledge of technique. But "knowledge" in the internet age is less and less synonymous with experience, which is what you really need. Experience helps you adequately judge when a rope will get stuck for example.

I will also say that before you do something on rope for the first time by yourself in the woods, you do your trip with the detours. This will help you develop and idea of when or if egress will be possible via another route during your pull down trip. You'll need to spend a lot of time bushwhacking. I imagine you must like bushwhacking at least a little, otherwise you wouldn't be interested in a solo backcountry exploration.

As RGold said. You also need to have experience climbing a rope and be carrying the tools you need to do this regardless of whether or not you think you will use them. Don't know how to do this? Don't do your trip. Not trying to be a buzzkill, but everyone who answered your query with a sobering affect just wants you to not be dead. It comes from a good place.
Have fun getting the experience you need. It's just as much fun as what you have in mind.


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Mother nature doesn't like this, you are hurting our trees, think about this next time your rope is running over a sharp edge... Karma


Marylandclimber


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He said "secondary backup" and "primary" a million times. Does he mean anchor points? Didn't have climbing rope either.

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