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So, over the last 3/4 of a century, more and more of the tax burden has been shifted onto the middle and lower-middle class, as opposed to the highest wage earners.

That statement needs backup with actual taxes paid. See what historical info you find on the IRS website. Effective rates don't say anything about the proportion of taxes actually paid.


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Sorry, but I'm afraid it has already been determined that Obama will win a second term.

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Obama poised to win 2012 election with 303 electoral votes: The Signal Forecast

With fewer than nine months to go before Election Day, The Signal predicts that Barack Obama will win the presidential contest with 303 electoral votes to the Republican nominee's 235.

How do we know? We don't, of course. Campaigns and candidates evolve, and elections are dynamic events with more variables than can reasonably be distilled in an equation. But the data--based on a prediction engine created by Yahoo! scientists--suggest a second term is likely for the current president...

http://news.yahoo.com/...votes-202543583.html

Too bad Romney...and you other Republitards...

Curt


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Sorry, but I'm afraid it has already been determined that Obama will win a second term.

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Obama poised to win 2012 election with 303 electoral votes: The Signal Forecast

With fewer than nine months to go before Election Day, The Signal predicts that Barack Obama will win the presidential contest with 303 electoral votes to the Republican nominee's 235.

How do we know? We don't, of course. Campaigns and candidates evolve, and elections are dynamic events with more variables than can reasonably be distilled in an equation. But the data--based on a prediction engine created by Yahoo! scientists--suggest a second term is likely for the current president...

http://news.yahoo.com/...votes-202543583.html

Too bad Romney...and you other Republitards...

Curt

I don't necessarily disagree, but the funniest part of that quote is the phrase, "Yahoo! scientists."


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Sorry, but I'm afraid it has already been determined that Obama will win a second term.

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Obama poised to win 2012 election with 303 electoral votes: The Signal Forecast

With fewer than nine months to go before Election Day, The Signal predicts that Barack Obama will win the presidential contest with 303 electoral votes to the Republican nominee's 235.

How do we know? We don't, of course. Campaigns and candidates evolve, and elections are dynamic events with more variables than can reasonably be distilled in an equation. But the data--based on a prediction engine created by Yahoo! scientists--suggest a second term is likely for the current president...

http://news.yahoo.com/...votes-202543583.html

Too bad Romney...and you other Republitards...

Curt

Interesting. I'm not convinced that their ultimate inference is correct; is it necessarily the case that just because Obama has a >50% chance of reelection in states accounting for 303 electoral college votes, that he has a >50% chance of reelection?

I note in particular that in VA and OH Obama has <0.53 probability of winning, meaning that those 31 votes could easily go the challenger. On the other hand, the GOP votes are much more solid - Obama's best chance among those is in FL, and it's only 0.36.

An additional issue is that these are unlikely to be independent: if they're off in one state they're probably going to be off in the same direction in others. Some sort of Monte Carlo simulation of the overall EC vote count would be more telling.


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Mitt Romney or Monty Burns?


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The Atlantic Wire wrote:
Mitt Romney Prefers to Give Mitt Romney All the Credit

FEB 6, 2012
There is accumulating evidence that Mitt Romney's not much of a team player: He mocked advisers for thinking their work is "very, very important"; he has delegated the task of thanking staff and volunteers after primary victories to his wife; and his campaign fired his debate coach last week not because he did a bad job, but because he was getting too much credit for doing a good one.

Just before the Florida primary, talking to Matt Lauer on the Today show, Romney mocked his advisers for thinking they had a lot to do with taking down Newt Gingrich. "I think you can expect advisers to think that the work of advisers is very, very important, but frankly, I think if you're to go back and look at where the sentiment changed, it was with the debates," Romney said, responding to a New York Times story about the campaign's strategy. And even though Romney was widely seen as a changed, more aggressive man in those debates, and even though the major tangible change was a new debate coach, Romney wants sole credit for those performances, according to Politico.

After the primary, there were headlines like "The Coach Who Revamped Romney's Stage Presence," and "Mitt Romneyís new debate coach may have been Florida primary game-changer." They were about Brett O'Donnell, the former Liberty University debate coach and aide to Michelle Bachmann. O'Donnell started getting warnings that he was getting too much credit, Politico's Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman report. Then last week, on a campaign conference call, "a clear message was delivered -- Romney pulled himself back from the brink after South Carolina, and no one else did it for him," Politico reports. O'Donnell was let go.

Maybe having zero tolerance for staffers celebrating in the end zone is understandable. But other decisions make it clear Romney doesn't like saying "thanks." Like that at post-election speeches, he has literally outsourced the act of saying "thanks" to his wife. Traditionally candidates thank their staff and volunteers for making their victory (or whatever) possible. (Here's a transcript of Newt Gingrich, an egomaniac in his own right, giving lots of thanks in Florida.) But in Florida and Nevada, Ann Romney did all the thanking. Romney, whose speech was more likely to be carried on cable news channels, merely thanked the states' residents.

What an asshole.

Curt


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curt wrote:
The Atlantic Wire wrote:
Mitt Romney Prefers to Give Mitt Romney All the Credit

FEB 6, 2012
There is accumulating evidence that Mitt Romney's not much of a team player: He mocked advisers for thinking their work is "very, very important"; he has delegated the task of thanking staff and volunteers after primary victories to his wife; and his campaign fired his debate coach last week not because he did a bad job, but because he was getting too much credit for doing a good one.

Just before the Florida primary, talking to Matt Lauer on the Today show, Romney mocked his advisers for thinking they had a lot to do with taking down Newt Gingrich. "I think you can expect advisers to think that the work of advisers is very, very important, but frankly, I think if you're to go back and look at where the sentiment changed, it was with the debates," Romney said, responding to a New York Times story about the campaign's strategy. And even though Romney was widely seen as a changed, more aggressive man in those debates, and even though the major tangible change was a new debate coach, Romney wants sole credit for those performances, according to Politico.

After the primary, there were headlines like "The Coach Who Revamped Romney's Stage Presence," and "Mitt Romneyís new debate coach may have been Florida primary game-changer." They were about Brett O'Donnell, the former Liberty University debate coach and aide to Michelle Bachmann. O'Donnell started getting warnings that he was getting too much credit, Politico's Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman report. Then last week, on a campaign conference call, "a clear message was delivered -- Romney pulled himself back from the brink after South Carolina, and no one else did it for him," Politico reports. O'Donnell was let go.

Maybe having zero tolerance for staffers celebrating in the end zone is understandable. But other decisions make it clear Romney doesn't like saying "thanks." Like that at post-election speeches, he has literally outsourced the act of saying "thanks" to his wife. Traditionally candidates thank their staff and volunteers for making their victory (or whatever) possible. (Here's a transcript of Newt Gingrich, an egomaniac in his own right, giving lots of thanks in Florida.) But in Florida and Nevada, Ann Romney did all the thanking. Romney, whose speech was more likely to be carried on cable news channels, merely thanked the states' residents.

What an asshole.

Curt


One of the nicest things about being a rich asshole is never having to say thank you.




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That's pretty funny!

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traddad wrote:
curt wrote:
The Atlantic Wire wrote:
Mitt Romney Prefers to Give Mitt Romney All the Credit

FEB 6, 2012
There is accumulating evidence that Mitt Romney's not much of a team player: He mocked advisers for thinking their work is "very, very important"; he has delegated the task of thanking staff and volunteers after primary victories to his wife; and his campaign fired his debate coach last week not because he did a bad job, but because he was getting too much credit for doing a good one.

Just before the Florida primary, talking to Matt Lauer on the Today show, Romney mocked his advisers for thinking they had a lot to do with taking down Newt Gingrich. "I think you can expect advisers to think that the work of advisers is very, very important, but frankly, I think if you're to go back and look at where the sentiment changed, it was with the debates," Romney said, responding to a New York Times story about the campaign's strategy. And even though Romney was widely seen as a changed, more aggressive man in those debates, and even though the major tangible change was a new debate coach, Romney wants sole credit for those performances, according to Politico.

After the primary, there were headlines like "The Coach Who Revamped Romney's Stage Presence," and "Mitt Romneyís new debate coach may have been Florida primary game-changer." They were about Brett O'Donnell, the former Liberty University debate coach and aide to Michelle Bachmann. O'Donnell started getting warnings that he was getting too much credit, Politico's Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman report. Then last week, on a campaign conference call, "a clear message was delivered -- Romney pulled himself back from the brink after South Carolina, and no one else did it for him," Politico reports. O'Donnell was let go.

Maybe having zero tolerance for staffers celebrating in the end zone is understandable. But other decisions make it clear Romney doesn't like saying "thanks." Like that at post-election speeches, he has literally outsourced the act of saying "thanks" to his wife. Traditionally candidates thank their staff and volunteers for making their victory (or whatever) possible. (Here's a transcript of Newt Gingrich, an egomaniac in his own right, giving lots of thanks in Florida.) But in Florida and Nevada, Ann Romney did all the thanking. Romney, whose speech was more likely to be carried on cable news channels, merely thanked the states' residents.

What an asshole.

Curt


One of the nicest things about being a rich asshole is never having to say thank you.

Damn... This guy was even to cheap to round up to 1.34, and make it an even 1%.


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rrrADAM wrote:
traddad wrote:
curt wrote:
The Atlantic Wire wrote:
Mitt Romney Prefers to Give Mitt Romney All the Credit

FEB 6, 2012
There is accumulating evidence that Mitt Romney's not much of a team player: He mocked advisers for thinking their work is "very, very important"; he has delegated the task of thanking staff and volunteers after primary victories to his wife; and his campaign fired his debate coach last week not because he did a bad job, but because he was getting too much credit for doing a good one.

Just before the Florida primary, talking to Matt Lauer on the Today show, Romney mocked his advisers for thinking they had a lot to do with taking down Newt Gingrich. "I think you can expect advisers to think that the work of advisers is very, very important, but frankly, I think if you're to go back and look at where the sentiment changed, it was with the debates," Romney said, responding to a New York Times story about the campaign's strategy. And even though Romney was widely seen as a changed, more aggressive man in those debates, and even though the major tangible change was a new debate coach, Romney wants sole credit for those performances, according to Politico.

After the primary, there were headlines like "The Coach Who Revamped Romney's Stage Presence," and "Mitt Romneyís new debate coach may have been Florida primary game-changer." They were about Brett O'Donnell, the former Liberty University debate coach and aide to Michelle Bachmann. O'Donnell started getting warnings that he was getting too much credit, Politico's Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman report. Then last week, on a campaign conference call, "a clear message was delivered -- Romney pulled himself back from the brink after South Carolina, and no one else did it for him," Politico reports. O'Donnell was let go.

Maybe having zero tolerance for staffers celebrating in the end zone is understandable. But other decisions make it clear Romney doesn't like saying "thanks." Like that at post-election speeches, he has literally outsourced the act of saying "thanks" to his wife. Traditionally candidates thank their staff and volunteers for making their victory (or whatever) possible. (Here's a transcript of Newt Gingrich, an egomaniac in his own right, giving lots of thanks in Florida.) But in Florida and Nevada, Ann Romney did all the thanking. Romney, whose speech was more likely to be carried on cable news channels, merely thanked the states' residents.

What an asshole.

Curt


One of the nicest things about being a rich asshole is never having to say thank you.

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Damn... This guy was even to cheap to round up to 1.34, and make it an even 1%.

It's OK, the whole story isn't real.


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So happy Mitt will be president. I'll admit, I was VERY surprised he made me laugh much harder than Obama tonight. Where the hell did that come from? I know, it's the writers but still...

I"m sure we would all be budds sitting around a campfire at a climbing spot but I have to say I told you so.....


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So happy Mitt will be president. I'll admit, I was VERY surprised he made me laugh much harder than Obama tonight. Where the hell did that come from? I know, it's the writers but still...

I"m sure we would all be budds sitting around a campfire at a climbing spot but I have to say I told you so.....

Survey says: you may be feckin' right!


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he made me laugh
It aint just you, buddy. Me and all my friends laughed pretty damn hard when we noticed that he was wearing magical underwear under his suit.


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haha, love the guy, so happy as a business owner I'll finally have someone like minded in there.

The guy's a genius, literally, I'd be suprised if he wasn't.

I'm sure plenty won't like him when he's president, but they'll like their bank accounts!

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Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

The LBO game he played doesnít take a lot of smarts, what it takes most of all is connections to people with butt loads of money who are willing to loan it to you (secured by the assets of your LBO target, of course, because personal responsibility is for suckers). After that, anyone with MBA-type knowledge can figure out how to strip wealth out of a company. He's not smart, he's a fucking parasite that sucked blood out of other companies built by the sweat of other people.


It takes a truly clouded mind to not see that what Obama has accomplished with what was handed to him and in spite of Republican intransigence is truly impressive. Letís summarize:

1. Prevented another Great Depression.

2. Job creation - since the crash leveled off, 5 million jobs created, and that doesnít even count the 1.5 million saved in the auto industry, or jobs saved by the Stimulus that arenít counted as new. And projected to create another 12 million in his second term. All together that will put him up there in the company of presidents with the best job creation records.

3. Reduced deficit by $500 billion. The largest reduction by any President in history over a 4 year term, including President Clinton. In percentage of GDP terms, he reduced it 10.1% to 7.0%. And he would have reduced it more if Republicans hadn't blocked him.

4. Stock market up 67% over his term, that puts him at 5th best President since 1900 for market performance over comparable time periods.

And thatís just highlights of his economic record.

As a business owner, you should know that Obama's policies will benefit you more than Romney's will. But then, you think Romney is smart. You know, perceived intelligence is relative. An idiot sees an imbecile and things they're a genius.


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haha, love the guy, so happy as a business owner I'll finally have someone like minded in there.

The guy's a genius, literally, I'd be suprised if he wasn't.

I'm sure plenty won't like him when he's president, but they'll like their bank accounts!

go

Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

The LBO game he played doesnít take a lot of smarts, what it takes most of all is connections to people with butt loads of money who are willing to loan it to you (secured by the assets of your LBO target, of course, because personal responsibility is for suckers). After that, anyone with MBA-type knowledge can figure out how to strip wealth out of a company. He's not smart, he's a fucking parasite that sucked blood out of other companies built by the sweat of other people.


It takes a truly clouded mind to not see that what Obama has accomplished with what was handed to him and in spite of Republican intransigence is truly impressive. Letís summarize:

1. Prevented another Great Depression.

2. Job creation - since the crash leveled off, 5 million jobs created, and that doesnít even count the 1.5 million saved in the auto industry, or jobs saved by the Stimulus that arenít counted as new. And projected to create another 12 million in his second term. All together that will put him up there in the company of presidents with the best job creation records.

3. Reduced deficit by $500 billion. The largest reduction by any President in history over a 4 year term, including President Clinton. In percentage of GDP terms, he reduced it 10.1% to 7.0%. And he would have reduced it more if Republicans hadn't blocked him.

4. Stock market up 67% over his term, that puts him at 5th best President since 1900 for market performance over comparable time periods.

And thatís just highlights of his economic record.

As a business owner, you should know that Obama's policies will benefit you more than Romney's will. But then, you think Romney is smart. You know, perceived intelligence is relative. An idiot sees an imbecile and things they're a genius.

You kinda remind me of a friend's parrot. Personally, I never trusted that bird.


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pinktricam wrote:
hugependejo wrote:
flesh wrote:
haha, love the guy, so happy as a business owner I'll finally have someone like minded in there.

The guy's a genius, literally, I'd be suprised if he wasn't.

I'm sure plenty won't like him when he's president, but they'll like their bank accounts!

go

Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

The LBO game he played doesnít take a lot of smarts, what it takes most of all is connections to people with butt loads of money who are willing to loan it to you (secured by the assets of your LBO target, of course, because personal responsibility is for suckers). After that, anyone with MBA-type knowledge can figure out how to strip wealth out of a company. He's not smart, he's a fucking parasite that sucked blood out of other companies built by the sweat of other people.


It takes a truly clouded mind to not see that what Obama has accomplished with what was handed to him and in spite of Republican intransigence is truly impressive. Letís summarize:

1. Prevented another Great Depression.

2. Job creation - since the crash leveled off, 5 million jobs created, and that doesnít even count the 1.5 million saved in the auto industry, or jobs saved by the Stimulus that arenít counted as new. And projected to create another 12 million in his second term. All together that will put him up there in the company of presidents with the best job creation records.

3. Reduced deficit by $500 billion. The largest reduction by any President in history over a 4 year term, including President Clinton. In percentage of GDP terms, he reduced it 10.1% to 7.0%. And he would have reduced it more if Republicans hadn't blocked him.

4. Stock market up 67% over his term, that puts him at 5th best President since 1900 for market performance over comparable time periods.

And thatís just highlights of his economic record.

As a business owner, you should know that Obama's policies will benefit you more than Romney's will. But then, you think Romney is smart. You know, perceived intelligence is relative. An idiot sees an imbecile and things they're a genius.

You kinda remind me of a friend's parrot. Personally, I never trusted that bird.

I'm offended that the above comment is not even funny, much less insulting. Put a little effort into it.


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hugepedro wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
hugependejo wrote:
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haha, love the guy, so happy as a business owner I'll finally have someone like minded in there.

The guy's a genius, literally, I'd be suprised if he wasn't.

I'm sure plenty won't like him when he's president, but they'll like their bank accounts!

go

Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

The LBO game he played doesnít take a lot of smarts, what it takes most of all is connections to people with butt loads of money who are willing to loan it to you (secured by the assets of your LBO target, of course, because personal responsibility is for suckers). After that, anyone with MBA-type knowledge can figure out how to strip wealth out of a company. He's not smart, he's a fucking parasite that sucked blood out of other companies built by the sweat of other people.


It takes a truly clouded mind to not see that what Obama has accomplished with what was handed to him and in spite of Republican intransigence is truly impressive. Letís summarize:

1. Prevented another Great Depression.

2. Job creation - since the crash leveled off, 5 million jobs created, and that doesnít even count the 1.5 million saved in the auto industry, or jobs saved by the Stimulus that arenít counted as new. And projected to create another 12 million in his second term. All together that will put him up there in the company of presidents with the best job creation records.

3. Reduced deficit by $500 billion. The largest reduction by any President in history over a 4 year term, including President Clinton. In percentage of GDP terms, he reduced it 10.1% to 7.0%. And he would have reduced it more if Republicans hadn't blocked him.

4. Stock market up 67% over his term, that puts him at 5th best President since 1900 for market performance over comparable time periods.

And thatís just highlights of his economic record.

As a business owner, you should know that Obama's policies will benefit you more than Romney's will. But then, you think Romney is smart. You know, perceived intelligence is relative. An idiot sees an imbecile and things they're a genius.

You kinda remind me of a friend's parrot. Personally, I never trusted that bird.

I'm offended that the above comment is not even funny, much less insulting. Put a little effort into it.


You're a Democrap. The fact that you're offended and aren't easily humored goes without saying.


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Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

Ahhhh... But see, he IS predictable... As he CONSISTENTLY says what ever the group he is speaking to wants to hear.

That's why it sounds so inconsistent... But there is consistency there... That he will say what ever people want to hear, irregardless of whether he agrees with it or not, and surely with ZERO commitment to deliver on his words. He will consistently say one thing to get the vote, then do what ever he wants. This has been his history, both decades ago, years ago, months ago, to just weeks ago. Heck... He even dows it on an hourly basis, when he is questioned about something he says by the media... Extreme words to the group he's speaking to, then moderate words to the media.


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hugepedro wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
hugependejo wrote:
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haha, love the guy, so happy as a business owner I'll finally have someone like minded in there.

The guy's a genius, literally, I'd be suprised if he wasn't.

I'm sure plenty won't like him when he's president, but they'll like their bank accounts!

go

Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

The LBO game he played doesnít take a lot of smarts, what it takes most of all is connections to people with butt loads of money who are willing to loan it to you (secured by the assets of your LBO target, of course, because personal responsibility is for suckers). After that, anyone with MBA-type knowledge can figure out how to strip wealth out of a company. He's not smart, he's a fucking parasite that sucked blood out of other companies built by the sweat of other people.


It takes a truly clouded mind to not see that what Obama has accomplished with what was handed to him and in spite of Republican intransigence is truly impressive. Letís summarize:

1. Prevented another Great Depression.

2. Job creation - since the crash leveled off, 5 million jobs created, and that doesnít even count the 1.5 million saved in the auto industry, or jobs saved by the Stimulus that arenít counted as new. And projected to create another 12 million in his second term. All together that will put him up there in the company of presidents with the best job creation records.

3. Reduced deficit by $500 billion. The largest reduction by any President in history over a 4 year term, including President Clinton. In percentage of GDP terms, he reduced it 10.1% to 7.0%. And he would have reduced it more if Republicans hadn't blocked him.

4. Stock market up 67% over his term, that puts him at 5th best President since 1900 for market performance over comparable time periods.

And thatís just highlights of his economic record.

As a business owner, you should know that Obama's policies will benefit you more than Romney's will. But then, you think Romney is smart. You know, perceived intelligence is relative. An idiot sees an imbecile and things they're a genius.

You kinda remind me of a friend's parrot. Personally, I never trusted that bird.

I'm offended that the above comment is not even funny, much less insulting. Put a little effort into it.

He can't... It's not that he's intelectually lazy... He is intelectually deficient, in that he sincerely lacks the metacognitive abilities to apply objective reason... He goes where ever his gut and heart takes him (read: emotion)... He has the hook set DEEP in his gut, and he is so well trained that mere quips can get him to strongly go in the direction they wish him to go.


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Romney is dumber than GW Bush. At least Bush, for all his trouble garbling words, could articulate a consistent ideology. Romney can't even do that. The best he can do is parrot talking points and a few dog-whistle buzzwords.

Ahhhh... But see, he IS predictable... As he CONSISTENTLY says what ever the group he is speaking to wants to hear.

That's why it sounds so inconsistent... But there is consistency there... That he will say what ever people want to hear, irregardless of whether he agrees with it or not, and surely with ZERO commitment to deliver on his words. He will consistently say one thing to get the vote, then do what ever he wants. This has been his history, both decades ago, years ago, months ago, to just weeks ago. Heck... He even dows it on an hourly basis, when he is questioned about something he says by the media... Extreme words to the group he's speaking to, then moderate words to the media.

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That he will say what ever people want to hear, irregardless of whether he agrees with it or not, and surely with ZERO commitment to deliver on his words. He will consistently say one thing to get the vote, then do what ever he wants. This has been his history, both decades ago, years ago, months ago, to just weeks ago.

actually, as Governor, almost everything he proposed budget-wise during that campaign he actually filed as a part of his budget bill. we ignored most of it (I worked for the HWM committee in MA at the time), but not all. He kept his word on a lot of the things he proposed to do, and that was with a 90% Democrat majority in both the House and Senate.

In fact, a lot of what he proposed during his campaign he tried really hard to deliver. Some of it he did: universal health care, no new taxes (with the help of the Speaker), rightfully ousting Billy Bulger from the UMass Presidency (brother of famed FBI #1, competing with Osama for 1A and 1B, Whitey Bulger).

And some of it he didn't: restructuring the education and transportation bureaucracies, for example. But he said he'd do it and he filed the bills. They were too aggressive the first time through, so they failed. But lo and behold, Obama's slogan and speech-writing inspiration, Deval Patrick, became Governor after Romney decided to not run and basically did the same thing that Romney wanted to do but couldn't do (can't give him all the credit you know).

No, you can say he's switched positions a lot and that he's definitely a populist candidate (changing views how many times on abortion anyone? how about that strange healthcare position at the state / federal levels and in Israel?), but you can't say that he says one thing and does another. At the very least his only elected track record suggests that he has tried to do what he said he'd do. After all, those are his voters.

The scary thing is if he actually tries to do what he's saying now.


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...but you can't say that he says one thing and does another. At the very least his only elected track record suggests that he has tried to do what he said he'd do. After all, those are his voters.

The scary thing is if he actually tries to do what he's saying now.

The trouble is that this time around, in 1 campaign, he has contradicted himself on what he says he wants to do, so how do we know which Romney might be elected?


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...but you can't say that he says one thing and does another. At the very least his only elected track record suggests that he has tried to do what he said he'd do. After all, those are his voters.

The scary thing is if he actually tries to do what he's saying now.

The trouble is that this time around, in 1 campaign, he has contradicted himself on what he says he wants to do, so how do we know which Romney might be elected?

It's a good point. I don't want to have to guess, but if I did I'd say it would be whatever he thinks will make it through Congress.


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No, you can say he's switched positions a lot and that he's definitely a populist candidate (changing views how many times on abortion anyone? how about that strange healthcare position at the state / federal levels and in Israel?), but you can't say that he says one thing and does another. At the very least his only elected track record suggests that he has tried to do what he said he'd do. After all, those are his voters.

That IS what I'm saying, and he cannot deliver on what he promisses, since he promisses what ever the group he is speaking to wants to hear, which is why he is all over the place... One cannot deliver when they are all over the place... One can only deliver one way of another. He made way conservative (social & fiscal) promisses to win the nomination of the party, then, once he got it, he became more centrist... Yet, when talking to right wing nut jobs, he still makes nut job promisses, then altogether other promisses when speaking to the press about the very promisses he made the day before. Abortion, as you pointed out, is just one example.

Hell... If he was speaking to a group of rockclimbers, he'd promiss to open all lands for climbing, "drill, baby drill" the trad cliffs with bolts, and to fund the Access Fund... Anything we wanted to hear to get our vote.


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