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rrrADAM
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It looks like the God Particle Higgs bosan may have been found at LHC... We shall have to wait and see what the data shows.
I, for one, am suprised... If this is the case, it will change almost everything, and will even have social and theological impacts... Well, for those who care to better understand reality, that is.
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It's an important scientific discovery, for sure, but I can't imagine how this could have any social or theological implications. I'm pretty sure that the only reason this is receiving any attention outside of the scientific community is because we spent billions looking for it.
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pinktricam
Jul 4, 2012, 9:32 PM
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veganclimber wrote: It's an important scientific discovery, for sure, but I can't imagine how this could have any social or theological implications.
Because the "scientific community" is slowly catching up with God.
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pinktricam wrote: veganclimber wrote: It's an important scientific discovery, for sure, but I can't imagine how this could have any social or theological implications. Because the "scientific community" is slowly catching up with God.
Can you point out the passage of the bible that discusses the Higgs boson?
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pinktricam
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Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created...
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pinktricam wrote: veganclimber wrote: It's an important scientific discovery, for sure, but I can't imagine how this could have any social or theological implications. Because the "scientific community" is slowly catching up with God.
We are even now beginning construction on our higgs boson cannon, with which we'll shoot god right out of the sky.
Seriously, what do you mean by this statement?
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chadnsc
Jul 5, 2012, 6:20 AM
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pinktricam wrote: Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created...
Pinkie do you even know know what the Higgs particle is?
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Jul 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
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rrrADAM wrote: It looks like the God Particle Higgs bosan may have been found at LHC... We shall have to wait and see what the data shows. I, for one, am suprised... If this is the case, it will change almost everything, and will even have social and theological impacts... Well, for those who care to better understand reality, that is.
Ok, serious question: why should I care? How is this going to improve my life? Whose life, if any, is it going to improve?
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Jul 5, 2012, 10:29 AM
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scrapedape wrote: rrrADAM wrote: It looks like the God Particle Higgs bosan may have been found at LHC... We shall have to wait and see what the data shows. I, for one, am suprised... If this is the case, it will change almost everything, and will even have social and theological impacts... Well, for those who care to better understand reality, that is. Ok, serious question: why should I care? How is this going to improve my life? Whose life, if any, is it going to improve?
Well as soon as I started praying to the Higgs Particle I got a better job, my acne cleared up, and my dog came home.
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Jul 5, 2012, 10:59 AM
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scrapedape wrote: rrrADAM wrote: It looks like the God Particle Higgs bosan may have been found at LHC... We shall have to wait and see what the data shows. I, for one, am suprised... If this is the case, it will change almost everything, and will even have social and theological impacts... Well, for those who care to better understand reality, that is. Ok, serious question: why should I care? How is this going to improve my life? Whose life, if any, is it going to improve?
Had you asked contemporaries of Einstein what good the realtivity theory is for, few could have answerd (amongst others) GPS.
It advances knowledge. Maybe it will bring us an anti-gravity device. or force-fields. or warp drives. or nothing at all, because in 100 years someone will find conclusive evidence that the higgs cannot exist due to $anomaly and what was observed was something completly different.
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Related:
In reply to: The scientists presenting the data knew that they had to put their best foot forward and convince the community that they had done what so many wanted to accomplish. What do YOU do when the pressure is on? That's right, break out motherfuckin Comic Sans!
http://scientopia.org/...es-need-some-whimsy/
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pinktricam
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rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink.  In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense.
When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on.
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rrrADAM
Jul 5, 2012, 7:02 PM
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pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on.
Interesting... Please, do tell what is outsidethe box of this 4 dimensional existence (aka the universe) we occupy.
Please, be specific. And, if you can, please do tell what leads you to think/believe it.
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rrrADAM
Jul 5, 2012, 7:12 PM
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scrapedape wrote: rrrADAM wrote: It looks like the God Particle Higgs bosan may have been found at LHC... We shall have to wait and see what the data shows. I, for one, am suprised... If this is the case, it will change almost everything, and will even have social and theological impacts... Well, for those who care to better understand reality, that is. Ok, serious question: why should I care? How is this going to improve my life? Whose life, if any, is it going to improve?
ikf said it well in his reply... I doubt that Fibonacci thought or rockclimbing cams when he was putting pencil to paper.
Or, what practical use does the Hubble Telescope have for improving your life? Or, the COBE or WMAP satelites that gave us the details of the CMB.
I personally benifit from them, as I am personally interested in understanding the 'what' and 'how' of things.
Generally though... Science theorizes, tests, discovers and confirms... Engineers and technicians make use of what deeper understanding of reality that science provides. Most scientists aren't the Thomas Edison type (i.e., scientist AND inventor)
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Jul 5, 2012, 7:19 PM
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pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on.
LSD is great.
Curt
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pinktricam
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rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on. Interesting... Please, do tell what is outsidethe box of this 4 dimensional existence (aka the universe) we occupy. Please, be specific. And, if you can, please do tell what leads you to think/believe it.
God; experiencing God.
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rrrADAM
Jul 5, 2012, 7:36 PM
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pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on. Interesting... Please, do tell what is outsidethe box of this 4 dimensional existence (aka the universe) we occupy. Please, be specific. And, if you can, please do tell what leads you to think/believe it. God; experiencing God.
I have tried to validate your results using your methods, and many other methods (remember, I was once a born again RNJ myself), and it didn't work in a sustainable way... In fact, the more I tried, the more absurd it became.. Not just me, but even others of different and even similar beliefs have failed to yield identical results with the same methods.
Thus, your conclusion is flawed, at best.
In fact, even your methods are flawed, given that you and most will openly state that their results and methods are deeply personal and subjective to you, so that isn't even reasonable.
Like phlogiston... I had to accept that it just wasn;t connected to reality in any way.
Or, perhaps you can give me more to work with and be a bit more specific, rather than so nebulous? You really are giving me the same thing a schizo would for why he killed and ate children... "God; I experienced God." Do you realy think he is any less confident in his beliefs that you?
OK... I digress... Back to the Higgs... Something that may actually be reality, and even confirmed.
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curt wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on. LSD is great. Curt
Apparently, it couldn't hurt.
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rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on. Interesting... Please, do tell what is outsidethe box of this 4 dimensional existence (aka the universe) we occupy. Please, be specific. And, if you can, please do tell what leads you to think/believe it. God; experiencing God. I have tried to validate your results using your methods, and many other methods (remember, I was once a born again RNJ myself), and it didn't work in a sustainable way... In fact, the more I tried, the more absurd it became.. Not just me, but even others of different and even similar beliefs have failed to yield identical results with the same methods. Thus, your conclusion is flawed, at best. In fact, even your methods are flawed, given that you and most will openly state that their results and methods are deeply personal and subjective to you, so that isn't even reasonable. Like phlogiston... I had to accept that it just wasn;t connected to reality in any way. Or, perhaps you can give me more to work with and be a bit more specific, rather than so nebulous? You really are giving me the same thing a schizo would for why he killed and ate children... "God; I experienced God." Do you realy think he is any less confident in his beliefs that you?
No offense, but it's apparent you've either never really met Him, or if you did, you didn't actually want to know Him.
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pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: rrrADAM wrote: pinktricam wrote: Genesis Reality 1:1 In the beginning God the Higgs boson created... Fixed that for you, pink. In fact, we may have to rethink even our idea of 'beginning' in that sense. When you start thinking outside the "box" of this four dimensional existence we occupy, that will be the beginning of your journey on the trail wisdom...carry on. Interesting... Please, do tell what is outsidethe box of this 4 dimensional existence (aka the universe) we occupy. Please, be specific. And, if you can, please do tell what leads you to think/believe it. God; experiencing God. I have tried to validate your results using your methods, and many other methods (remember, I was once a born again RNJ myself), and it didn't work in a sustainable way... In fact, the more I tried, the more absurd it became.. Not just me, but even others of different and even similar beliefs have failed to yield identical results with the same methods. Thus, your conclusion is flawed, at best. In fact, even your methods are flawed, given that you and most will openly state that their results and methods are deeply personal and subjective to you, so that isn't even reasonable. Like phlogiston... I had to accept that it just wasn;t connected to reality in any way. Or, perhaps you can give me more to work with and be a bit more specific, rather than so nebulous? You really are giving me the same thing a schizo would for why he killed and ate children... "God; I experienced God." Do you realy think he is any less confident in his beliefs that you? No offense, but it's apparent you've either never really met Him, or if you did, you didn't actually want to know him.
You forgot to capitalize the last 'h', Eric. You should show more respect... Hell, even I go through the formality of capitalizing the pronouns when I refer to Her. 
Edit... Ah, you caught it AFTER you hit the button.
No worries... I NEVER get it right the first time... My sopelling sux. 
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pinktricam wrote: No offense, but it's apparent you've either never really met Him, or if you did, you didn't actually want to know Him.
If an individual has an imaginary friend who talks to him, it's a form of insanity. When millions do, it's a religion.
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