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dan2see


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Here is the cop's letter, as published in the Calgary Herald on Wednesday, with a picture of bike riders, and some early comments:

Nose Hill Park confrontation makes visitors feel unsafe

It got some negative reaction right away.

And here is the follow-up in Thursday's paper, with another picture of bike riders, and more readers' comments at the bottom of the page:

Paranoid Kalamazoo cop ridiculed over need to bear arms in CaParanoid Kalamazoo cop ridiculed over need to bear arms in Calgary park

A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.


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A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.


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pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.

felt what way!?!?!


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pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.

Hey! You don't get off that easy!

Back in the day, I visited the USA on business occasionally. I often had free time on weekends, and on Friday evenings we'd visit a bar or two.

I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.

But many of my friends think that, when Americans visit a foreign country, they usually expect American culture from the locals, and when they don't find it there, they often impose their own standards, or else go home to explain how ignorant the natives are.

So the cop's reaction to the locals, in that park in Calgary, was typical of Americans abroad.

It's "provincialism" turned backward. That's defined in Dictionary.com def #3, "narrow or illiberal; parochial"


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I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.
If that bothered you, then you would get a total complex shopping in (northern) Germany!


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pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.
I have a feeling they weren't itching to shoot some locals


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carabiner96 wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.
I have a feeling they weren't itching to shoot some locals


That or ram a fish up their butt.

Wait a minute, that's how pinky knows that pooping out a fish hurts more tail first.

This explains a lot about why pinky is the way he is. Pinky did some Canadian touch in you the no no place with a fish?


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macherry wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.

felt what way!?!?!

That we're weird and dangerous......have you been to the Stampede yet?


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Laugh Alright you guys! Your comments remind me that humour is an effective way to resolve conflict.
I donno maybe it's my morning coffee, and the summer sunshine, thats making me smile.
So here's another one: Laugh

But on the negative side, the most bizarre aspect of this visitor's encounter is his statement that he wants to bring his gun, to a nature park, with beautiful scenery and enticing atmosphere. He'd bring a gun, so he could shoot the locals in our park ! Crazy Mad

He wants to use deadly force, to counter his discomfort at meeting local hikers, in a public park.

He calls that self-defense.
I call that, the most aggressive, offensive behaviour possible.
And we didn't ask for it.
He wants to bring his anti-social attitude to us.
Mr. Wawra, please don't visit Canada again! Keep your crap at home!


(This post was edited by dan2see on Aug 10, 2012, 7:51 AM)


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sbaclimber wrote:
dan2see wrote:
I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.
If that bothered you, then you would get a total complex shopping in (northern) Germany!

Try France or Argentina. They're even more chauvinistic.


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rmsusa wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
dan2see wrote:
I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.
If that bothered you, then you would get a total complex shopping in (northern) Germany!

Try France or Argentina. They're even more chauvinistic.
I believe you!
In N. Germany they're just not exactly "warm" people. I at least never had the feeling it was something personal.Smile


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sbaclimber wrote:
rmsusa wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
dan2see wrote:
I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.
If that bothered you, then you would get a total complex shopping in (northern) Germany!

Try France or Argentina. They're even more chauvinistic.
I believe you!
In N. Germany they're just not exactly "warm" people. I at least never had the feeling it was something personal.Smile

Hey! You guys can't get off that easy, either!

This incident has sparked a lot of outrage in all the Canadian forums, social networks, and other media. Even the news, on national TV.

We all know it can be difficult to find warm, welcoming hospitality in many locales. But that's not the issue. I'll quote myself (I'm my best source):

dan2see wrote:
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But on the negative side, the most bizarre aspect of this visitor's encounter is his statement that he wants to bring his gun, to a nature park, with beautiful scenery and enticing atmosphere. He'd bring a gun, so he could shoot the locals in our park ! Crazy Mad

He wants to use deadly force, to counter his discomfort at meeting local hikers, in a public park.

He calls that self-defense.
I call that, the most aggressive, offensive behaviour possible.
And we didn't ask for it.
He wants to bring his anti-social attitude to us.
Mr. Wawra, please don't visit Canada again! Keep your crap at home!


(This post was edited by dan2see on Aug 11, 2012, 8:56 AM)


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Aug 11, 2012, 3:07 PM
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sbaclimber wrote:
rmsusa wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
dan2see wrote:
I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.
If that bothered you, then you would get a total complex shopping in (northern) Germany!

Try France or Argentina. They're even more chauvinistic.
I believe you!
In N. Germany they're just not exactly "warm" people. I at least never had the feeling it was something personal.Smile

Parisians are the worst of all, followed by the Milanese. Don't EVER go just walk into a store in Paris or Italy and expect them to treat you with kindness or respect. Even the high-end stores, heck, especially the high-end stores (if you were anyone important, you would've had your assistant phone the owner or manager in advance). It's not unusual for store clerks in Italy huff and scoff when you ask for their help.


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squierbypetzl wrote:
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Parisians are the worst of all, followed by the Milanese. ...

No, Americans get that prize!


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dan2see wrote:
squierbypetzl wrote:
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Parisians are the worst of all, followed by the Milanese. ...

No, Americans get that prize!

You're way off base here. Americans who work service industry jobs are generally extremely nice, perhaps to a fault ("the customer is always right").

Service jobs in Paris are held exclusively by assholes. Parisians would be the first to agree with this statement.

I can't speak for Milan, except to say that driving through that city is like taking part in Death Race 2000.


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ubu wrote:
dan2see wrote:
squierbypetzl wrote:
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Parisians are the worst of all, followed by the Milanese. ...

No, Americans get that prize!

You're way off base here. Americans who work service industry jobs are generally extremely nice, perhaps to a fault ("the customer is always right").

Service jobs in Paris are held exclusively by assholes. Parisians would be the first to agree with this statement.

I can't speak for Milan, except to say that driving through that city is like taking part in Death Race 2000.

No, you still don't get it!

dan2see wrote:
... the most bizarre aspect of this visitor's encounter is his statement that he wants to bring his gun, to a nature park, with beautiful scenery and enticing atmosphere. He'd bring a gun, so he could shoot the locals in our park ! Crazy Mad

He wants to use deadly force (his off-duty gun), to counter his discomfort at meeting local hikers, in a public park.

He calls that self-defense.
I call that, the most aggressive, offensive behaviour possible.
And we didn't ask for it.
He wants to bring his anti-social attitude to us.
Mr. Wawra, please don't visit Canada again! Keep your crap at home!


ubu


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dan2see wrote:
ubu wrote:
dan2see wrote:
squierbypetzl wrote:
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Parisians are the worst of all, followed by the Milanese. ...

No, Americans get that prize!

You're way off base here. Americans who work service industry jobs are generally extremely nice, perhaps to a fault ("the customer is always right").

Service jobs in Paris are held exclusively by assholes. Parisians would be the first to agree with this statement.

I can't speak for Milan, except to say that driving through that city is like taking part in Death Race 2000.

No, you still don't get it!

dan2see wrote:
... the most bizarre aspect of this visitor's encounter is his statement that he wants to bring his gun, to a nature park, with beautiful scenery and enticing atmosphere. He'd bring a gun, so he could shoot the locals in our park ! Crazy Mad

He wants to use deadly force (his off-duty gun), to counter his discomfort at meeting local hikers, in a public park.

He calls that self-defense.
I call that, the most aggressive, offensive behaviour possible.
And we didn't ask for it.
He wants to bring his anti-social attitude to us.
Mr. Wawra, please don't visit Canada again! Keep your crap at home!

I agree, this guy would make a crappy waiter.


dan2see


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ubu wrote:
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I agree, this guy would make a crappy waiter.

Tongue


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Sheesh, next you're going to be saying we're not good with money.

Oh vay, you are not good with money when you say "sheesh"


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
cracklover wrote:
Sheesh, next you're going to be saying we're not good with money.

Oh vay, you are not good with money when you say "sheesh"

??? Did you mean oy vey? And what does saying sheesh say about me (aside from that I'm kind of an old fart)?

GO


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dan2see wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
dan2see wrote:
A lot of Calgarians think this guy is weird and dangerous, and we hope he stays at home next time.

I used to bartend and wait tables back in the day in South FL. I kinda felt that way aboot Canadians, too....no offense, of course.

Hey! You don't get off that easy!

Back in the day, I visited the USA on business occasionally. I often had free time on weekends, and on Friday evenings we'd visit a bar or two.

I gotta tell you that the cultural differences between my manners and the barkeep's often left me wondering what I did wrong. I often felt insulted or dis-respected somehow, and I had no way of understanding how.

Let's just say you folks north of the border expext top-notch service, but don't proportionately appreciate it.

Apparently, a 10% gratuity is appropriate...even if I just expedited the best night of your feckin' vacay!


(This post was edited by pinktricam on Aug 16, 2012, 2:05 AM)


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With a name like Walt Wawra, and being from Kalamazoo, I am guessing he's felt threaten and bullied most of his life.


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The real difference between the US and Canada:




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America definitely has Puritan roots.

So much for separation of Church and State.

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