I believe Socialism is the grandest theory ever presented, and I am sure it will someday rule the world. Then we will have attained the Millennium.… Then men will be content to work for the general welfare and share their riches with their neighbors.

Andrew Carnegie in New York Times (1 January 1885) "A Millionaire Socialist"

SOCIALISM -is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
-Winston Churchill-

Sure sounds like Obama is a socialist.

Curt

Churchill > Carnegie

Churchill > Carnegie

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate (the) grave evils (of capitalism), namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society.

I can play that game too.


Einstein >> Churchill

Oh, yeah?

Jesus >>> Einstein [Boo-YA!]

Even accepting that at face value, Jesus was a revolutionary socialist.

Curt

SOCIALISM -is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
-Winston Churchill-

Sure sounds like Obama is a socialist.

If socialism is evil, does that make Israel bad?

Israel is, at least in part, a socialist country. From their policies on healthcare, welfare, daycare, free benefits for immigrants, nationalization of banks and other industries, it cannot be argued that Israel does not employ socialism.

Healthcare: while Americans argue about the evils or benefits of universal healthcare, Israel enjoys their own universal, compulsory system. A state-run collection agency collections a membership fee from every employer, and distributes it to one of four different HMOs. Each person must choose one of these HMOs, and in turn, these HMOs cannot turn anyone down for healthcare. Prescription drugs were actually given free of charge until recently. Now a nominal (small) fee is charged.

. . .

Stipends (read: welfare) are given to ultra-Orthodox males who choose to study at religious yeshivas. The majority of ultra-orthodox males do not work their entire lives - at least 65% of males choose to study the Torah as their main occupation, and Israel has always had a policy of encouraging this practice.

In addition, many ultra-orthodox females do not work outside of the home for religious reasons. As a result, more than half of all Ultra-Orthodox families live in poverty and receive government assistance.

. . .

rrrAdam,

There is plenty of signal, you are merely to0 unsophisticated to understand the concepts or it's possible that you are on the receiving end of the socialism and desire more.


TheTool

Here 'ya go: The tremendous financial firepower they bring to the table in troubling economic times.

Romney spent years buying and selling businesses. He's an astute financial statement decoder with an eye for improvement. Ryan had the stones to make a proposal and knows more about government finance than possibly anybody in government today. Whatever else you have against them, their financial acumen is just awesome.

Here 'ya go: The tremendous financial firepower they bring to the table in troubling economic times.

Romney spent years buying and selling businesses. He's an astute financial statement decoder with an eye for improvement. Ryan had the stones to make a proposal and knows more about government finance than possibly anybody in government today. Whatever else you have against them, their financial acumen is just awesome.

Is divesting Texas is on the table?

Here 'ya go: The tremendous financial firepower they bring to the table in troubling economic times.

Romney spent years buying and selling businesses. He's an astute financial statement decoder with an eye for improvement. Ryan had the stones to make a proposal and knows more about government finance than possibly anybody in government today. Whatever else you have against them, their financial acumen is just awesome.

Here 'ya go: The tremendous financial firepower they bring to the table in troubling economic times.

Romney spent years buying and selling businesses. He's an astute financial statement decoder with an eye for improvement. Ryan had the stones to make a proposal and knows more about government finance than possibly anybody in government today. Whatever else you have against them, their financial acumen is just awesome.

The problem that the Reptilian party.

Is divesting Texas is on the table?

Is divesting Texas is on the table?

Oh, yeah?

Jesus >>> Einstein [Boo-YA!]

I may like the "principle", but I don't trust the institution. The "helping your fellows is" best met at the local level; from society up, not from the top down.

Fmr. FL GOP Governor Charlie Crist Endorses President Obama On Eve of RNC Convention

Former Gov. Charlie Crist: Here's why I'm backing Barack Obama

I’ve studied, admired and gotten to know a lot of leaders in my life. Across Florida, in Washington and around the country, I've watched the failure of those who favor extreme rhetoric over sensible compromise, and I've seen how those who never lose sight of solutions sow the greatest successes.

As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I'm confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation. I applaud and share his vision of a future built by a strong and confident middle class in an economy that gives us the opportunity to reap prosperity through hard work and personal responsibility. It is a vision of the future proven right by our history.

We often remind ourselves to learn the lessons of the past, lest we risk repeating its mistakes. Yet nearly as often, our short-term memory fails us. Many have already forgotten how deep and daunting our shared crisis was in the winter of 2009, as President Obama was inaugurated. It was no ordinary challenge, and the president served as the nation's calm through a historically turbulent storm.

The president's response was swift, smart and farsighted. He kept his compass pointed due north and relentlessly focused on saving jobs, creating more and helping the many who felt trapped beneath the house of cards that had collapsed upon them.

TAMPA -- Mitt Romney's presidential campaign gave Texas Rep. Ron Paul a chance to speak at the Republican National Convention, but he declined due to the conditions of the offer, the New York Times reports:

Mr. Paul, in an interview, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined.

"It wouldn't be my speech," Mr. Paul said. "That would undo everything I've done in the last 30 years. I don't fully endorse him for president."

Or this:


If anyone still has any doubts, this is exactly what the United States under Romney would be like.

Curt