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My gym recently had a event to support a local climber who has Leukemia. There was a raffle in which i won a set of Climb X nuts. Anyone have any experience with this brand? Couldn't really find any review / info... Either way support a good cause / win some free gear win win situation! Thanks


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ya cant go wrong with free nutz Wink

from the pics they look like a basic set like the huevo or old BD ones ... id expect them to work just fine


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Halljt3 wrote:
My gym recently had a event to support a local climber who has Leukemia. There was a raffle in which i won a set of Climb X nuts. Anyone have any experience with this brand? Couldn't really find any review / info... Either way support a good cause / win some free gear win win situation! Thanks
Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.


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Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.

Dude, that's like saying the CIA ripped off the KGB.


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healyje wrote:
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Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.

Dude, that's like saying the CIA ripped off the KGB.
Whatever, the story about the whole ordeal with Joe is all over the net, you can read it and decide for yourself. But I a pretty sure if you owned a manufacturer and one day you logged into your computer to find an ex-employee copied your entire product line, including items that were patented, you would be pretty irate.

So I am advising people not to buy from Climb X because the owner is an a criminal and from what I heard, just a bad person all around. Any dumb ass can copy another's product, that does not require any innovation or intelligence; and scam artists and copycats should not be rewarded for their criminal work.

I am just waiting for Guangzhou to storm in here and tell me how I have it all wrong and Joe is actually a great guy: he attends his kid's PTA meetings, donates his time at the Salvation Army, and all that jazz. I think they are best friends or something - whatever. All I see is a company that opened their doors with a 100% copied ripoff product line. Climb X dident even bother to attempt to modify the ripoff designs in the slightest way, everything was a straight-out copy.


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USnavy wrote:
Halljt3 wrote:
My gym recently had a event to support a local climber who has Leukemia. There was a raffle in which i won a set of Climb X nuts. Anyone have any experience with this brand? Couldn't really find any review / info... Either way support a good cause / win some free gear win win situation! Thanks
Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.
1) the OP didn't buy them
2) he just asked how good the nuts were. I'm sure they work just fine.


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All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.


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I'm staying out of this.


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Well... I doubt anyone who actually owns anything from Climb X will post on this thread for fear of internet persecution! O well, figured I would ask anyways. They look decent.... I will give them a go this weekend.


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Halljt3 wrote:
Well... I doubt anyone who actually owns anything from Climb X will post on this thread for fear of internet persecution! O well, figured I would ask anyways. They look decent.... I will give them a go this weekend.

I own Climb X gear.

If you place them correctly, you'll be fine.

The rest of the conversation, I'll stay out of too.


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healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx


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gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
...your point being?


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sbaclimber wrote:
gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
...your point being?

I think he's trying to say it looks oddly similar to another very popular product on the market, albeit definitely not made by madrock.

I'm not sure what the point is either, unless he's saying it's only a matter of time before petzl goes postal on them.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
...your point being?

I think he's trying to say it looks oddly similar to another very popular product on the market, albeit definitely not made by madrock.
That was obvious. Wink

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I'm not sure what the point is either, unless he's saying it's only a matter of time before petzl goes postal on them.
Exactly. That particular point is moot.

Hint: that would be like saying that BD is going to go postal on DMM for producing the Dragon Cams.


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sbaclimber wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
...your point being?

I think he's trying to say it looks oddly similar to another very popular product on the market, albeit definitely not made by madrock.
That was obvious. Wink

Gmburns2000 wrote:
I'm not sure what the point is either, unless he's saying it's only a matter of time before petzl goes postal on them.
Exactly. That particular point is moot.

Hint: that would be like saying that BD is going to go postal on DMM for producing the Dragon Cams.

Yeah. I would have thought that petzl would have seen this a long time ago.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sbaclimber wrote:
gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
...your point being?

I think he's trying to say it looks oddly similar to another very popular product on the market, albeit definitely not made by madrock.
That was obvious. Wink

Gmburns2000 wrote:
I'm not sure what the point is either, unless he's saying it's only a matter of time before petzl goes postal on them.
Exactly. That particular point is moot.

Hint: that would be like saying that BD is going to go postal on DMM for producing the Dragon Cams.

Yeah. I would have thought that petzl would have seen this a long time ago.
I am sure they did....just like I am sure BD knew that DMM was going to *copy* the camalots as soon as they were allowed to.
....still moot.


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On the same note, the same year the patent is up on the grigri, the Gri Gri 2 gets released. Go figure.


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guangzhou wrote:
On the same note, the same year the patent is up on the grigri, the Gri Gri 2 gets released. Go figure.
Bingo!Smile


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On the same note, the same year the patent is up on the grigri, the Gri Gri 2 gets released. Go figure.

Quite so, not Petzlīs finest hour if you ask me. The older Grigri is still the tool of choice for a lot of climbers including me and dropping it from production only opened the gate to any other manufacturer to straight copy, Petzl canīt claim any IP rights as they donīt make them any more.


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gosharks wrote:
healyje wrote:
All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.
Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx
Yep, that would be Petzl. It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...Crazy


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It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...Crazy

You seem to be under the entirely mistaken impression that this is somehow new behavior or behavior exhibited by only one of these two parties. You clearly haven't been following along.


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I take it you bash totem as wellWink


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healyje wrote:
USnavy wrote:
It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...Crazy

You seem to be under the entirely mistaken impression that this is somehow new behavior or behavior exhibited by only one of these two parties. You clearly haven't been following along.
I have been following along, and I am aware that companies like DMM have ripped off designes from other companies like Black Diamond. But there is a big difference between taking a design and improving or modifying it and simply copying an entire product line. Climb X is not taking one product and improving on it, they are simply making cookie cutter replicas for every product they sell - big difference. They are the only "company" in the industry that has a 100% all fake and copied product line. No other company rips off more designs than they do.


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USnavy wrote:
healyje wrote:
USnavy wrote:
It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...Crazy

You seem to be under the entirely mistaken impression that this is somehow new behavior or behavior exhibited by only one of these two parties. You clearly haven't been following along.
I have been following along, and I am aware that companies like DMM have ripped off designes from other companies like Black Diamond. But there is a big difference between taking a design and improving or modifying it and simply copying an entire product line. Climb X is not taking one product and improving on it, they are simply making cookie cutter replicas for every product they sell - big difference. They are the only "company" in the industry that has a 100% all fake and copied product line. No other company rips off more designs than they do.

You're still operating under the delusion that behavior isn't common to both parties when it's really more just a divorce of a very like-minded couple.


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healyje wrote:
USnavy wrote:
healyje wrote:
USnavy wrote:
It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...Crazy

You seem to be under the entirely mistaken impression that this is somehow new behavior or behavior exhibited by only one of these two parties. You clearly haven't been following along.
I have been following along, and I am aware that companies like DMM have ripped off designes from other companies like Black Diamond. But there is a big difference between taking a design and improving or modifying it and simply copying an entire product line. Climb X is not taking one product and improving on it, they are simply making cookie cutter replicas for every product they sell - big difference. They are the only "company" in the industry that has a 100% all fake and copied product line. No other company rips off more designs than they do.

You're still operating under the delusion that behavior isn't common to both parties when it's really more just a divorce of a very like-minded couple.

I am insufficiently informed.

What has Mad Rock straight up copied?

Please educate me.

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