You're an idiot.

If you actually pulled your head from your ass to read the thread, you'd see people talking about licensing guns and limiting private sale, just as we already do with cars.

Its funny because there's less maniacs driving their cars into crowds to get their killer jollies going than fucktards with guns who find it too easy to point it at a person, pull the trigger and lights out.

You're an idiot.

If you actually pulled your head from your ass to read the thread, you'd see people talking about licensing guns and limiting private sale, just as we already do with cars.

Its funny because there's are less fewer maniacs driving their cars into crowds to get their killer jollies going than fucktards with guns who find it too easy to point it at a person, pull the trigger and lights out.

Merry Christmas

Limiting car sales, thats a laugh. The only thing that limits car sales is the price. Any jack off can buy a car, you don't need a license or background check to purchase a vehicle. If you would take a moment to read my previous post you would notice that I wasn't opposing the governments control of firearms (all of mine are legally obtained and registered). I was stating that people will find a way to kill others with or without firearms and if you would open a history book you would see that humans have been killing each other for thousands of years just fine with blunt objects and sharp pointy things.

I will agree that killing with guns is easier, however I personally am not put off on the idea of killing with any number of things. Being that I believe I am a sane reasonable person I have to assume that there are any number of individuals out there who feel the same, sane or otherwise.

I'm sure most other murderous nut jobs think they're sane, and its the rest of the world that's crazy.

http://www.thestar.com/...ghters-in-n-y-ambush

Looks like you'll need to start arming firemen too, can't just give guns to teachers.

The shooter; a 61 year old mentally disturbed ex con who couldn't legally own a firearm.

The firearm he used; and 20 year old revolver owned by his sister (who lived with him). It was a .38 caliber that holds five rounds.

Damn Chad, I didnt think you were one of those "selective truth" types.

You left out the 2 other weapons he used. Please, since you know so much about guns, tell us more about those too.

Damn Chad, I didnt think you were one of those "selective truth" types.

You left out the 2 other weapons he used. Please, since you know so much about guns, tell us more about those too.

I'll even help you:

http://www.nytimes.com/...ewanted=all&_r=0

The shooter; a 61 year old mentally disturbed ex con who couldn't legally own a firearm.

The firearm he used; and 20 year old revolver owned by his sister (who lived with him). It was a .38 caliber that holds five rounds.

He also used bushmaster, I thought?



It is well-established statistics, that, rather than increase your safety, owning a gun makes you and/or your family members more likely to die or get injured in a gun-related incident.

Case in point-- Adam Lonza's mother (who owned her guns completely legally), was killed from the gun that she owned, her son, and 26 innocent people died in the bargain.

The link above also fits the same pattern.

Thanks for a more in depth link. What I had heard on NPR was that he had used a .38 revolver, the same he used to commit suicide with.

There was probably a bit of confusion about what weapon(s) he used for the shooting and what weapon he used to end his own life.

It is very interesting to see that the police are uncertain how he got the weapons as he can't legally purchase or own any. It' seems that he stole them, just like in the previous school shooting. Bad, bad things.

I know it's being nit picky but that data you're referring to says that owning a handgun makes you and/or your family members more likely to die or get injured in a gun-related incident.

it is possible to strengthen gun control and improve mental health care simultaneously you know. they are not mutually exclusive.

Unfortunately, the same politicians that won't even consider improving gun control are the same assholes that have gutted the mental health budget, and want to continue to gut mental health by way of cutting funding from medicaid.

I agree. I can't know how much it would have helped but it's too bad that people don't seem to lock up their firearms anymore.

Edit to add:

I know it's being nit picky but that data you're referring to says that owning a handgun makes you and/or your family members more likely to die or get injured in a gun-related incident.

I know it's not nit picking and you know it's not nit picking, but attempting to educate the slobs on this forum is a futile effort. All they know is what an ignorant and sensationalist media feeds them and the opportunistic, unpatriotic and un-American ideologies politicians rant about.

Sadly, 99% of them can't explain the difference between an assault weapon and an assault rifle. I'd bet dollars to donuts that 100% of the blubberers here believe the "AR" in AR-15 means assault rifle!

Look how this thread has digressed; from a legitamate point on the very real state of affairs of this nation's mental health system to gun haters ill informed rants.

I agree. I can't know how much it would have helped but it's too bad that people don't seem to lock up their firearms anymore.

Selective quoting much?

You missed this part of chad's response:

For sale, used Remington Model 770 30-06, passed on by my father, but I don't hunt." 500.00.

Considering he was far away from the firefighters (it took hours to find him), I'd assume the revolver was for him and the bushmaster/shotgun combo to shoot the responders.

Hard to get good accuracy from far away with a revolver. Don't forget that he was sending a lot of bullets down, takes too long to reload a revolver when your goal is to "kill as many as possible"

Yes, that study specified handguns. But do you really think it would be different for others?

Yes I do.

Would you care to elaborate? What's the reasoning behind it?