Based on what I just read, it sounds like the Rev. Mike Huckabee's solution to gun violence is to get god back into public schools in a major way. That's right, the religious right is saying that the CT massacre was a consequence of the move to recognize same sex marriage and the general swing toward a more secular world view in the US.

Curious, well... Not really I guess... pinkie is silent on this, even when asked directly.

In his defense, he's just remembering those peaceful days when everybody pledged allegiance in school and went to church on Sunday. You know, back when murder rates were almost double what they are now.

Well, look at it comparatively: Europe has gradually moved away from God, and are much more secular than the US, and their gun violence rates are, oh, wait, no, nevermind.

Curious, well... Not really I guess... pinkie is silent on this, even when asked directly.

Pinkie's busy working in the ED again.....I'll get around to it.

A Florida man defended his decision to shoot an impatient pizza customer over the weekend, citing the state’s infamous “Stand Your Ground” law.

http://thinkprogress.org/...ichael-jock-shooter/

Yeah, this is what most gun-lovers don't get. The same situation without guns-- they would have maybe punched each other.

And this often gets missed in the "guns for defense" arguments. Everyone is picturing " defense" as a " bad-guy-got-into-my-house-and-i-had-to-shoot-him-to-protect-my-babies", while in reality, the defense thing is most often employed when two guys, both with some petty criminal history, get into an argument, one of them shoves the other, and the second guy them pulls out a gun and shoots the first one, because he was attacked by the first guy.

Pinkie's busy working in the ED again.....I'll get around to it.

PTC, hope you had a Merry Christmas. You're probably gearing up for a busy new years eve in the ER, but I would still love to hear your perspective on this.

Thank you, I did have a nice Christmas and New Year. BTW, we don't call it an "ER" anymore on account that there are more rooms than just one. It actually is referred to as the ED now and no, it has nothing to do with traddads "little" problem either.

To begin to answer your query I'd like to just say that we need to start by doing away with these huge high capacity clips, yes these! :

[img]http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thumb/e/ea/Paperclip-2.jpg/251px-Paperclip-2.jpg[/img]

Why, can you just imagine the trauma that would be eliminated?!? I mean, it would save countless individuals the potential of paper cuts each and every day if we'd just revert back to the smaller lower capacity clips we used in the old days!

I remember when I was in the restaurant business and had to prep all those lemon slices before my shift. Can you picture the potential agony from paper cuts that could have been avoided by using smaller capacity clips like that Frankenstein woman is advocating?!? Smaller clips=<paper=<trauma and anguish in this world.

Okay, that's the first step I'd take. I will give this dilemma we face some further consideration and get back to you with more constructive solutions. Because I know that here on this forum we can make a considerable difference towards solving the rampant crazy that's happening.

Looking forward to helping you and you helping me make this world a better place.

So you don't really want to end gun violence.
Unsurprising.

Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
[kneels]
Kilgore: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
[sniffing, pondering]
Kilgore: victory. Someday this war's gonna end...
[suddenly walks off]

Pinky doesn't want gun violence to end.

A Florida man defended his decision to shoot an impatient pizza customer over the weekend, citing the state’s infamous “Stand Your Ground” law.

http://thinkprogress.org/...ichael-jock-shooter/

I'll get around to it.

It's a bit bizarre though....it's weird that an administration that illegally and purposefully allowed tens of thousands of the very firearms they're currently attempting to push bans on "walk" across the southern border and into the hands of dangerous and violent people is now imposing gun laws by edict...indeed, it's ironic.

every american shot dead since newtown

Having strict gun laws helps, but it certainly isn't a panacea if there are places without strict gun laws next door.

How do you define "gun culture"?

Crazy people who think the 2nd amendment is the only part of the Constitution that matters.

Curt

Now here's an astute individual as well as one representing a more personal and informed viewpoint than curt's predictable knee-jerk response!

How do you define "gun culture"?

Translation: "Here is someone who agrees with me."

Curt

Face it curt, you really don't rank in "astute."

Pinky--our own little Dunning Kruger poster boy.

Curt

*snap*

Oh wait, your menses...err, mensa, right?!?

really?

HAHAHAHAHA! You compared him to a woman! That was insulting! Vaginas are icky, frightening, and sometimes ooze blood, so that confuse me! Hey Curt, you're like a lowdown, weak, bleeding, slutty, undesirable, WOMAN!

pwned.

The movement within our culture that idolizes and reveres guns. If its just a tool, why aren't there entire video game genres that fetishize hammers?

The ultraconservative nut-case world that pinky lives in is interesting in that intelligence is not only unvalued, it's actually contemptible.

Curt

Speaking of, here's Ted owning Piers "Musket" Morgan....

http://thegunwire.com/...n-debate-owned-2413/

I like the part about how wonderful the vast majority gun owners are, and how we should focus on the small percentage of nutbags that show dangerous, murderous intent. How many times do you have to be investigated by the Secret Service before you fall into that category?

By the way, just how long does Ted have until he's either dead or in prison? Did that clock start when he made those comments, on election night, or when Obama was sworn in?

So, this is what it may come down to when criticizing the current administration, a "knock on your door," or worse?

Read this amusing bit today:"The White House has released a photo of Obama shooting a gun, warning people not to Photoshop it. Conservatives are like hey, it's already been Photoshopped -- by adding a gun." -Jodi Miller

So you can't even accept reality when you have photographic evidence right in front of you. Why am I not surprised.

Okay, I laughed when I saw this one...

I'll give you that one. That is funny.

Curt

Conservatives consistently reject reality.

Curt

And I thought of pinky when I read this one:

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/...-penises-since-2010/

And I thought of pinky when I read this one:

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/...-penises-since-2010/

And I thought of pinky when I read this one:

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/...-penises-since-2010/

Thank you for your sincere concern. However, I keep any and all guns tucked inside my waistband within a holster with the trigger well protected from discharging a bullet accidentally. Also, with the exception of my .380, I'll only keep a round chambered when I compete, or when my Spidey sense is tingling.

So, though I am flattered, you can ease your pretty little mind and stop thinking about my larger than average and oft tumescent appendage.

So, though I am flattered, you can ease your pretty little mind and stop thinking about my larger than average and oft tumescent appendage.

You motherfucker. I tend to visualize every thing I read, and now I have to spend the rest of the day drinking because of you.

You post dick pics on craigslist, don't you?

How do you define "gun culture"?

Drinking cognac and listening to smooth jazz?

Yeah, but what does Pinkie need his penis for? He probably uses his appendix more.

I'm bigger than that.

I see that patience is not your strong suit.

However, for the record, I'm in complete accord with BOs edict to make background checks mandatory even for private sales. Although, that'll do little to deter criminals from acting like criminals.

I´ll contribute an idea, then: make mental health a national priority.

Remove the stigma attached to seeking psychological and psychiatric help. Make said help more readily available, while keep the pharmaceutical industry out of it (as much as possible). Shift the focus on domestic violence from the current criminal-law-centric view to a therapeutic, rehabilitative vision.

Sounds good, but even if you remove the stigma, you have to deal with insurance realities. I am lucky to have pretty good insurance, as far as insurance policies in the US go. It covers a lot of things, Physical Therapy, Mental health, etc.

BUT there are 30 PT visits per year, yet only 20 Mental Health. And there is a lifetime limit on Mental health, but not on PT.

Yet, unlike PT that we only need occasionally, when we get injured, Mental Health issues are usually something that is not going to be "cured", with pharmaceuticals, or without. It needs lifetime of support.

Add to it the fact that most people with mental health issues are probably not going to hold a kind of job that i have, that provides good insurance. And add to it the fact that even for someone like me, who is not exactly counting every penny, the co-pays for medical visits can add up quite quickly, and the MH co-pays are higher than regular doctor visits.

Add to it the tangle of personal freedom and right to privacy, vs. trying to get treatment for someone who doesn't want to get treated... (have you ever tried? I had tried to get help for a friend several years ago. It is impossible!)

And what you get is that adequate medical support for Mental Health issues is pretty much impossible for anyone with severe long-term issues under current healthcare system.

Reform that? Sure, I'm all for it... not going it happen.

. . . you are only capable of parroting others thoughts . . .

Pinkie's busy working in the ED again.....I'll get around to it.

Liar