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snoopy138
Jan 7, 2013, 6:28 PM
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ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with? you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you? Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts.
My posts are nearly all in community. have at it.
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ObviousTroll
Jan 7, 2013, 6:32 PM
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snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with? you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you? Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts. My posts are nearly all in community. have at it.
Oh no no no... Don't get me wrong, I won't even attempt to find all your previous posts. I don't have the patience to click a button on my mouse twenty seven thousand times. That would take--my whole climbing time away!
Say wait a second Snoopy- Speaking of how long it would take, how is it that you've managed to write up 27,000 posts and still managed to get a top rope in?
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notapplicable
Jan 7, 2013, 6:38 PM
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Oh sweet jesus. Someone please lock this thread.
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dynosore
Jan 7, 2013, 6:56 PM
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camhead wrote: PeteF wrote: To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply. Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority. Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU.
Huh? Black men commit interracial rape at over 30x the rate of white men. Over 50% of crimes committed by blacks are against whites, while white criminals chose black targets in less than 3% of cases. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama. Tell me who's racist. Might want to lay off the PC koolaid.
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snoopy138
Jan 7, 2013, 6:58 PM
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ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with? you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you? Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts. My posts are nearly all in community. have at it. Oh no no no... Don't get me wrong, I won't even attempt to find all your previous posts. I don't have the patience to click a button on my mouse twenty seven thousand times. That would take--my whole climbing time away! Say wait a second Snoopy- Speaking of how long it would take, how is it that you've managed to write up 27,000 posts and still managed to get a top rope in?
the "you have so many posts you must not really climb" argument is almost as played out as the "but I have black friends" defense and the cries of reverse racism.
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ObviousTroll
Jan 7, 2013, 7:02 PM
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snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with? you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you? Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts. My posts are nearly all in community. have at it. Oh no no no... Don't get me wrong, I won't even attempt to find all your previous posts. I don't have the patience to click a button on my mouse twenty seven thousand times. That would take--my whole climbing time away! Say wait a second Snoopy- Speaking of how long it would take, how is it that you've managed to write up 27,000 posts and still managed to get a top rope in? the "you have so many posts you must not really climb" argument is almost as played out as the "but I have black friends" defense and the cries of reverse racism.
I've met people like you before. I don't need to explain myself. One day you will understand what I'm talking about.
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camhead
Jan 7, 2013, 7:37 PM
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ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: snoopy138 wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with? you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you? Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts. My posts are nearly all in community. have at it. Oh no no no... Don't get me wrong, I won't even attempt to find all your previous posts. I don't have the patience to click a button on my mouse twenty seven thousand times. That would take--my whole climbing time away! Say wait a second Snoopy- Speaking of how long it would take, how is it that you've managed to write up 27,000 posts and still managed to get a top rope in? the "you have so many posts you must not really climb" argument is almost as played out as the "but I have black friends" defense and the cries of reverse racism. I've met people like you before. I don't need to explain myself. One day you will understand what I'm talking about.
IT'S GOT FIVE STARS SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!11
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macherry
Jan 7, 2013, 8:16 PM
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jbone wrote: I did read your article, and I think its "poor me" journalism. If you go to Mexico and watch tv you will see Hispanics. If you go to China and watch tv you will see Chinese. If you go to Africa you will see Africans. Why is it when you are in America and you watch tv you don't see Americans? Maybe you need more friends who are white?
what the hell does an american look like?
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SylviaSmile
Jan 7, 2013, 8:24 PM
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Wow.
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theguy
Jan 7, 2013, 11:10 PM
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I must say the one good thing to come out of this thread is more evidence for Godwin's law.
And while we're complaining about -isms, I'd like to complain about ageism: what's up with that 18-45 restriction?! ;)
Come on jBone, back me up here: I can't believe that your finely-tuned discrimination detector missed it just because this time you were in the target demographic ;)
"Reverse-ageism creates ageism", or something like that... in any case, it's their own damn fault if they're discriminated against. Did I get that right, jBone?
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theguy
Jan 7, 2013, 11:12 PM
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shockabuku wrote: theguy wrote: ...Hawaii is closer to China than America, come on! ;) Just out of curiosity, what map did you get that data from?
The one with a warped world-view, natch.
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theguy
Jan 7, 2013, 11:16 PM
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ObviousTroll wrote: Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation.
Well at least you don't judge people based on their appearance like those nasty racists ;)
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ObviousTroll
Jan 8, 2013, 4:20 AM
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theguy wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation. Well at least you don't judge people based on their appearance like those nasty racists ;)
lol what? I judge people all the time based off of their appearances. Fat people, ugly people dumb looking people geeky awkward types. Yeah bro, these judgements help me get through life safely, otherwise I would be lost.
Oh what, now your going to say you don't judge people either huh? Tje difference between me, jbone and others is that we're cognitive enough to know that just because we don't like a particular aspect that is stereotypically true of a certain group doesn't mean we also go into every scene with a predisposition to hate them already. When you grow up you'll get it.
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caughtinside
Jan 8, 2013, 7:24 AM
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macherry wrote: jbone wrote: I did read your article, and I think its "poor me" journalism. If you go to Mexico and watch tv you will see Hispanics. If you go to China and watch tv you will see Chinese. If you go to Africa you will see Africans. Why is it when you are in America and you watch tv you don't see Americans? Maybe you need more friends who are white? what the hell does an american look like?
You know... the mexicans I see on mexican TV don't look like 99% of the mexicans I actually know or live amongst.
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snoopy138
Jan 8, 2013, 9:36 AM
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dynosore wrote: camhead wrote: PeteF wrote: To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply. Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority. Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU. Huh? Black men commit interracial rape at over 30x the rate of white men. Over 50% of crimes committed by blacks are against whites, while white criminals chose black targets in less than 3% of cases. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama. Tell me who's racist.
umm ... you?
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ObviousTroll
Jan 8, 2013, 10:53 AM
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It must be difficult living in a world where a man is racist just for saying an article is "poor me" journalism. And a man is racist for saying, "Hey wait a minute! No he's not!" Or when you state statistics showing that one of the "racist finders" is incorrect in his accusations.
You ever veen told that you are your own worst enemy? I feel no obligation to apologize, because I've done nothing racist, or wrong. Yet you guys still post like you're looking for something? As if all us nay sayers are closet racists that need to be shown the light or something. Hmm, well I'll just continue taking pleasure in trolling you self righteous white boys. It passes my time at work.
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hugepedro
Jan 8, 2013, 11:42 AM
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ObviousTroll wrote: It must be difficult living in a world where a man is racist just for saying an article is "poor me" journalism. And a man is racist for saying, "Hey wait a minute! No he's not!" Or when you state statistics showing that one of the "racist finders" is incorrect in his accusations. You ever veen told that you are your own worst enemy? I feel no obligation to apologize, because I've done nothing racist, or wrong. Yet you guys still post like you're looking for something? As if all us nay sayers are closet racists that need to be shown the light or something. Hmm, well I'll just continue taking pleasure in trolling you self righteous white boys. It passes my time at work.
Well at least you're not self-aware, because people that are racists and know it, are sociopathic assholes. Whereas, people like you are just ignorant douche-nozzles. Congratulations!
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Jan 8, 2013, 11:49 AM
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hugepedro wrote: ObviousTroll wrote: It must be difficult living in a world where a man is racist just for saying an article is "poor me" journalism. And a man is racist for saying, "Hey wait a minute! No he's not!" Or when you state statistics showing that one of the "racist finders" is incorrect in his accusations. You ever veen told that you are your own worst enemy? I feel no obligation to apologize, because I've done nothing racist, or wrong. Yet you guys still post like you're looking for something? As if all us nay sayers are closet racists that need to be shown the light or something. Hmm, well I'll just continue taking pleasure in trolling you self righteous white boys. It passes my time at work. Well at least you're not self-aware, because people that are racists and know it, are sociopathic assholes. Whereas, people like you are just ignorant douche-nozzles. Congratulations!
Heh. Nozzles.
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Jan 8, 2013, 12:56 PM
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ObviousTroll wrote: It must be difficult living in a world where a man is racist just for saying an article is "poor me" journalism. And a man is racist for saying, "Hey wait a minute! No he's not!" Or when you state statistics showing that one of the "racist finders" is incorrect in his accusations. You ever veen told that you are your own worst enemy? I feel no obligation to apologize, because I've done nothing racist, or wrong. Yet you guys still post like you're looking for something? As if all us nay sayers are closet racists that need to be shown the light or something. Hmm, well I'll just continue taking pleasure in trolling you self righteous white boys. It passes my time at work.
You should have added "ed" to the end of your username.
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hugepedro
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ObviousTroll wrote: hugepedro wrote: Whereas, people like you are just ignorant douche-nozzles. Congratulations! Meh, I can't argue with that. At least somebody around here can call a duck a duck. 
Hahaaa!
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kiwiprincess
Jan 8, 2013, 3:06 PM
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Lots of American adds are made in NZ as we have snow in the off season so do catalogues , adds etc then.
Lately They have been casting for female winter climbers, dark skinned to look South American. That is the art directors vision, Next time it will be Male, 50's Craggy/rough looking.
Although it would be illegal to specify Sex race etc in a job add, I would rather know up front than waste my time going to a casting I will never get if they get all PC and cast for "climbers"
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A person of color or anybody from an underrepresented group can make a call to address racism, and to encourage inclusion in a community. Unfortunately, more often than not the community who hears said person spends a huge amount of time and energy addressing the racist, sexist, and just plain mean opinions of some asshole. Doesn't it say something that instead of hearing a person of color on an idea they have to address the whiteness of climbing, Jbone and ObvTroll call them a bunch of names, question their methods, say a bunch of ignorant shit? Why is it so threatening to them? OBVIOUSLY our society has a lot of work to overcome racism, sexism, classism, anti-queer sentiment, and just for attempting to overcome these situations, people jump on them. That's one tool of oppression; somebody tries to change something and overcome power imbalances, and people of the dominant group attack them, and attempt to discredit them with ignorant beliefs.
I think especially JBone's comments cross the line more towards harrassment than just "voicing one's opinion", like he keeps claiming he is doing. But seriously, go wash some dishes or fall in a 12 foot hole, or do anything besides making a person feel unwelcome, who is making a concerted effort to address racism, and to stand up for herself.
So Joytrip, thank you! Thank you! Thank You! Thank you! I wish we could spend more time being supportive, and focusing on the voices of people of color, and not just letting them get drowned out as we attempt to deconstruct racist ideas. The deconstruction is entirely necessary, but I also want to take some space and time to appreciate an attempt to create more visibility of people of color who climb.
Fuck yes. I'm glad someone is doing something. :) :)
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