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Gmburns2000


Feb 6, 2013, 2:28 AM
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R&I has a great report on the terrible situation. This time they hit the nail on the head. It is dangerous and you have to make up your own mind. What risk are you willing to take to climb in Potrero.

http://www.rockandice.com/...potrero-chico-mexico

It is up to the individual to decide. Many of my friends south and north of the border will not go there.

That's a pretty damning report. This seems to be a pretty good indicator, too:

R&I Jeff Jackson wrote:
In response to the violence, the U.S. Consulate General in Monterrey has issued a traveler's advisory that warns against travel in Nuevo Leon. In addition, the U.S. consulate is "a partially unaccompanied post" with no dependents of government officials allowed. All officials are on a curfew that requires them to remain in the consulate neighborhood between midnight and 6 a.m.


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Feb 11, 2013, 8:55 AM
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The group, Kombo Kolombia played in territory once controlled by Zetas and they would occasionally send shout outs to the CDG (Gulf Cartel) members that had been caught (making fun of them). The band may have been targeted because of that.

This is still under investigation and they do have a person that they are looking for, a Zeta that organized the party.

This entire episode is a horrible blip in the criminal insurgency Mexico is suffering under.


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Gmburns2000


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sonso45 wrote:
The group, Kombo Kolombia played in territory once controlled by Zetas and they would occasionally send shout outs to the CDG (Gulf Cartel) members that had been caught (making fun of them). The band may have been targeted because of that.

This is still under investigation and they do have a person that they are looking for, a Zeta that organized the party.

This entire episode is a horrible blip in the criminal insurgency Mexico is suffering under.

a set-up maybe? damn


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It is a sad state of affairs. There are dangerous and not as dangerous areas of Mexico. A great read about the recent history of this "criminal insurgency" is El Narco by Ioan Grillo. A great read on the situation by someone that has been there a while.

Apparently the band was caught up between the Gulf Cartel and the Zetas. From Borderland Beat: "In the first instances, the hypothesis was that Kombo Kolombia had been "finished off" by leaders of the Gulf Cartel (CDG) because of its close relationship with rival gangs.

But the most recent investigations are now pointing in a different direction. Versions collected by the authority reported that Los Zetas have reprimanded musicians for playing in bars and clubs operated by the CDG in the metropolitan area. It is what they saw as a betrayal and who paid with their life. Jose Isidro Cruz Villarreal, "El Pichilo" is thought to have been in charge of recruiting Kombo Kolombia for the performance in the municipality of Hidalgo, and would been the leader who led the convoy of gunmen that kidnapped the band."


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YER GONNA...










...get beheaded?


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So, I'm supposed to be there next week for 2 weeks and I'm on the fence. I've been there twice before (2001 and 2008) and had no problem. What's the police presence there and how reliable are they to "protect and serve" the climbers and locals? have they stepped up their visibility?

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mikewhip wrote:
So, I'm supposed to be there next week for 2 weeks and I'm on the fence. I've been there twice before (2001 and 2008) and had no problem. What's the police presence there and how reliable are they to "protect and serve" the climbers and locals? have they stepped up their visibility?

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mike

I've not been to Potrero for a few years, but I went there for most winters between 2002-2007, and have traveled a fair bit in Mexico beyond that, too. I would not trust the police to "protect and serve," too much. But seriously, just do regular climber stuff, camp at a campground, only go to restaurants and bars with lots of other climbers, and you should be fine. Unless the Zetas happen to do a random drive-by.


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Thanks CamHead. I do appreciate the comment. It helps indeed.


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mikewhip wrote:
So, I'm supposed to be there next week for 2 weeks and I'm on the fence. I've been there twice before (2001 and 2008) and had no problem. What's the police presence there and how reliable are they to "protect and serve" the climbers and locals? have they stepped up their visibility?

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mike

i have friends currently climbing in potrero. they say there is an increased police presence, but other than that things are usual. they are spending the winter there and there's been no other issues. the climbing is great and just yesterday they posted up pics on fb of them visiting a local rodeo.


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sounds good! thank You for this updated info. Keep it coming if you hear any more.


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Hey Mike,
We are heading there this Friday for 2 weeks as well. We hesitated a lots and decided to go. I am asking myself the same questions...I guess I might see you there. This will be my first time so I cant really help with info but I had a friend there when the incident happened, he said it felt sketchy for a few days but came back to normal after.....
Are you staying at La posada?


jack.amaus86


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Hey Mike and everyone i had a solo trip planned for a month on the 20th. I also hesitated a lot about going but i think im going to go for it. I was most worried about finding people to climb with but it sounds like at least a few people will be there. I hope to see you all down there


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mikewhip


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Hi there Steph...
I'm getting more psyched on this trip. I've been there twice and Live the climbing and the locals as well. My buddy and I are staying at La Posada. We get in on the morning of the 20th. I'm Mike and my partners name is Logan. Please look for me/us. Would love to chat, give beta over beers and meals. I'm bald 5'7 for reference and climb in Jeans. See you soon man!


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Feb 13, 2013, 7:29 AM
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Crap! Sorry I meant Jack not Steph Unsure


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Feb 13, 2013, 12:04 PM
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well well I will be happy to meet all of you there anyways, even if this message wasnt dedicated to me ;)

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