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DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike.  Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone!
Because bitching about the "tax increase" which wipes out his annual pay increase sounds pretty fuckin' hollow when the main reason I only saw 2 pay raises in 10 years is because people like USNavy don't understand the relation between payment and services rendered.
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DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone!
Gimme a break.
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Kartessa wrote: DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone! Gimme a break.
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DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't!
That's a market based economy for you. If employers don't have to give you a raise they won't.
Actually in regards to inflation the average U.S. worker hasn't had a pay raise in in 20 years or so.
DougMartin wrote: I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing!
Could be worse, my pay was frozen at $0.00 for the past five months so quite yer bitchin'
DougMartin wrote: This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone!
No one is attacking him because of that, it's because of his 'I'm a navy welder, I get shot at, I keep you all safe, without me Binladen would have killed you, worship my ass and pay me more' response that upset many.
Anymore questions? 
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chadnsc wrote: No one is attacking him because of that, it's because of his 'I'm a navy welder, I get shot at, I keep you all safe, without me Binladen would have killed you, worship my ass and pay me more' response that upset many.
He only brags when he's off... otherwise, there's the whine of "they might send me to war and I'm too pretty to weld in a desert shit hole"
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dr_feelgood wrote: Kartessa wrote: DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone! Gimme a break. If it wasn't for George W. Bush's heroic and noble tax cuts for the wealthy and USnavy's reenlistment, we would all be forced to perform fellatio on Osama Bin Laden. Just remember that, the next time someone tells you that a progressive income tax is beneficial.
Because Bush's dick tastes so much better
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Feb 20, 2013, 1:02 PM
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DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't!
Why everyone SHOULD? What is the free market justification of why everyone should get a pay increase? If I take that attitude, then no one should EVER get fired either! Because it is unfair, right?
DougMartin wrote: I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! ... This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him,
Yeah, well, that sucks. And a lot of people are in the same boat.
But USnavy isn't. He is getting an automatic increase every January, "like he should". Yet he is the one complaining that reinstated tax wiped out his increase...
Very understandably, people who didn't get any 'automatic" increase,this year, or maybe for a few years, and who are taking home reduced pay, are not feeling particularly sympathetic to his whine.
DougMartin wrote: ... or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone!
I think bitching AT USnavy only started when people pointed out to him that he is in a better position than most, and instead of understanding it, he made the "I am the only thing that protects you from Bin Laden's dick" tirade.
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Kartessa wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Kartessa wrote: DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone! Gimme a break. If it wasn't for George W. Bush's heroic and noble tax cuts for the wealthy and USnavy's reenlistment, we would all be forced to perform fellatio on Osama Bin Laden. Just remember that, the next time someone tells you that a progressive income tax is beneficial. Because Bush's dick tastes so much better
You just made me throw up a little!
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lena_chita wrote: Kartessa wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Kartessa wrote: DougMartin wrote: curt wrote: USnavy wrote: Like normal, I got a pay raise starting Jan 1 to account for increased inflation. However, this year is a bit different because the feds also increased the FICA tax rate by 2%... Gotta love how some folks call the expiration of a temporary tax cut a tax hike. Curt Why is everyone on this guys ass? Everyone should get a pay raise every year! Merit based or inflation based who cares but everyone should get an increase, it is a shame we don't! I had my pay frozen two years ago! It sucks and it is not going to get better anytime soon! So my take home pay went down in direct proportion to the increase or reinstatement of suspended tax, which every way you want to say it, they both mean the same damn thing! This has happened to everyone not just USNavy! Why not bitch with him instead of about him, or you could simply state that your alright with a tax increase. I personally am fine with it as long as it is balanced with spending cuts!! No need to attack a guy because he is bitching about something that is happening to everyone! Gimme a break. If it wasn't for George W. Bush's heroic and noble tax cuts for the wealthy and USnavy's reenlistment, we would all be forced to perform fellatio on Osama Bin Laden. Just remember that, the next time someone tells you that a progressive income tax is beneficial. Because Bush's dick tastes so much better You just made me throw up a little!
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In reply to: Actually in regards to inflation the average U.S. worker hasn't had a pay raise in in 20 years or so.
Have to be a little careful with that. Anybody who was working 20 years ago is making way more money now than then, even taking inflation into account.
If you were a carpenter back then and still in the very same job today without any increase in technical skill level or productivity or supervisory skills, you probably haven't gotten a raise. I suspect that there are very few people in that kind of position.
An entry level worker back then made about the same money as an entry level worker now, same with mid-career people, etc. However, a comparison living standards 20 years ago with what we've got now (improvement in goods and services at the same level) might make one think about the situation as a pay raise. YMMV.
The very top-top makes way more due to (probably among other things) increased return to intellectual and social capital. See sports, movies, music, books, star software engineers, fortune 500 CEO's etc.
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In reply to: You just made me throw up a little!
Gag reflex.
As to why people are all over USnaive, will he's was just recently telling everyone here how he had the greatest job in the with perfect medical coverage. He also went on about how he works only six months out of the year and he had the best job in the world.
As a prior service member, and someone who has lots of friends in Afghanistan who agree, a soldier's job is to go to war. A first timer in the service may not realize what they are getting themselves into. Someone like USNaive who has decided to reenlist knows what the job is.
Not getting a pay raise suck, a lot of American's who had jobs don't.
USnaive aslo has a history fo coming here with a load of !@@#$% as fact that he can't back-up.
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If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world.
Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia.
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Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia.
That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie!
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camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie!
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camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie!
Plenty of people in America looking to becoming Socialist. Look at who just got reelected if you don't believe me.
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guangzhou wrote: camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie! Plenty of people in America looking to becoming Socialist. Look at who just got reelected if you don't believe me.
Yes. In spite of much contrary evidence, it does appear that the majority of people here are rational.
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curt wrote: guangzhou wrote: camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie! Plenty of people in America looking to becoming Socialist. Look at who just got reelected if you don't believe me. Yes. In spite of much contrary evidence, it does appear that the majority of people here are rational. Curt
Why do you hate America?
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guangzhou wrote: camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie! Plenty of people in America looking to becoming Socialist. Look at who just got reelected if you don't believe me.
sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't socialism. far from it.
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macherry wrote: guangzhou wrote: camhead wrote: Kartessa wrote: If you really have a problem with what the US military pays, you could always defect to the north. Canada has one of the best paid militarized in the world. Back when I was in, Canada was second only to Australia. That' because you guys are being paid to spread worldwide socialism. Commie! Plenty of people in America looking to becoming Socialist. Look at who just got reelected if you don't believe me. sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't socialism. far from it.
Let them think that... I can't wait to see their faces when the reality sinks in
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guangzhou wrote: Aren't you a Navy welder? Hardly going to put you in the middle of the fight anyways.
Anyway, this is not really about my tax increase and my own net income. This is about the middle class getting shafted the the rich getting pampered.
Here, let's try this: I have some top-tier AAA rated CDOs for sale. I procreated them from high-end borrowers that are guaranteed to pay their debts. There is virtually no chance they wont pay out. Just ask Goldman-Sachs, and Fitch! But just in case you dont believe that CDOs are sound investments, AIG will offer you insurance to cap your losses in the ultra-unlikely chance you will experience any. Trust in my exceptional judgement on these investments as I personally fought for deregulation of money market savings investment limits and derivative restrictions. Dont worry about my partner's 15:1 leverage ratio, we all know what we are doing. Oh, and I also have solid Internet stocks for sale in case anyone is interested. They are also guaranteed to be solid and there is no chance you would loose $5t on them.
Sound familiar?
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USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: Aren't you a Navy welder? Hardly going to put you in the middle of the fight anyways. Not even remotely close. Anyway, this is not really about my tax increase and my own net income. This is about the middle class getting shafted the the rich getting pampered. Here, lets try this: I have some top-tier AAA rated CDOs for sale. I procreated them from high-end borrowers that are guaranteed to pay their debts. There is virtually no chance they wont pay out. Just ask Goldman-Sachs, and Fitch! But just in case you dont believe that CDOs are sound investments, AIG will offer you insurance to cap your losses in the ultra-unlikely chance you will experience any. Trust in my exceptional judgement on these investments as I personally fought for deregulation of money market savings investment limits and derivative restrictions. Dont worry about my partner's 15:1 leverage ratio, we all know what we are doing. Oh, and I also have solid Internet stocks for sale in case anyone is interested. They are also guaranteed to be solid and there is no chance you would loose $5t on them. Sound familiar?
Wow... either you're smoking way too many drugs or I'm not smoking enough.
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Kartessa wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: Aren't you a Navy welder? Hardly going to put you in the middle of the fight anyways. Not even remotely close. Anyway, this is not really about my tax increase and my own net income. This is about the middle class getting shafted the the rich getting pampered. Here, lets try this: I have some top-tier AAA rated CDOs for sale. I procreated them from high-end borrowers that are guaranteed to pay their debts. There is virtually no chance they wont pay out. Just ask Goldman-Sachs, and Fitch! But just in case you dont believe that CDOs are sound investments, AIG will offer you insurance to cap your losses in the ultra-unlikely chance you will experience any. Trust in my exceptional judgement on these investments as I personally fought for deregulation of money market savings investment limits and derivative restrictions. Dont worry about my partner's 15:1 leverage ratio, we all know what we are doing. Oh, and I also have solid Internet stocks for sale in case anyone is interested. They are also guaranteed to be solid and there is no chance you would loose $5t on them. Sound familiar? Wow... either you're smoking way too many drugs or I'm not smoking enough.
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USnavy wrote: Kartessa wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: Aren't you a Navy welder? Hardly going to put you in the middle of the fight anyways. Not even remotely close. Anyway, this is not really about my tax increase and my own net income. This is about the middle class getting shafted the the rich getting pampered. Here, lets try this: I have some top-tier AAA rated CDOs for sale. I procreated them from high-end borrowers that are guaranteed to pay their debts. There is virtually no chance they wont pay out. Just ask Goldman-Sachs, and Fitch! But just in case you dont believe that CDOs are sound investments, AIG will offer you insurance to cap your losses in the ultra-unlikely chance you will experience any. Trust in my exceptional judgement on these investments as I personally fought for deregulation of money market savings investment limits and derivative restrictions. Dont worry about my partner's 15:1 leverage ratio, we all know what we are doing. Oh, and I also have solid Internet stocks for sale in case anyone is interested. They are also guaranteed to be solid and there is no chance you would loose $5t on them. Sound familiar? Wow... either you're smoking way too many drugs or I'm not smoking enough. In other words, you have no idea what I am talking about. That is okay. It seems like 90% of the world does not know jack about the economic collapse of 2008, clearly you included. It also seems that most prefer to spend their time on the Internet talking crap about the president instead of educating themselves about why our economy sucks. Go take an economics class little girl.
Oh shit... you must have thought I cared...
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USnavy wrote: In other words, you have no idea what I am talking about. That is okay. It seems like 90% of the world does not know jack about the economic collapse of 2008, clearly you included. It also seems that most prefer to spend their time on the Internet talking crap about the president instead of educating themselves about why our economy sucks. Go take an economics class little girl.
Nice to see you're back from your time out and have decided to become a better man because of it.
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USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: Aren't you a Navy welder? Hardly going to put you in the middle of the fight anyways. Not even remotely close. Anyway, this is not really about my tax increase and my own net income. This is about the middle class getting shafted the the rich getting pampered. Here, let's try this: I have some top-tier AAA rated CDOs for sale. I procreated them from high-end borrowers that are guaranteed to pay their debts. There is virtually no chance they wont pay out. Just ask Goldman-Sachs, and Fitch! But just in case you dont believe that CDOs are sound investments, AIG will offer you insurance to cap your losses in the ultra-unlikely chance you will experience any. Trust in my exceptional judgement on these investments as I personally fought for deregulation of money market savings investment limits and derivative restrictions. Dont worry about my partner's 15:1 leverage ratio, we all know what we are doing. Oh, and I also have solid Internet stocks for sale in case anyone is interested. They are also guaranteed to be solid and there is no chance you would loose $5t on them. Sound familiar?
You are a very silly person.
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