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curt


Mar 19, 2013, 10:39 PM
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rgold wrote:
curt wrote:

Devil's Lake?

Yup---Roger's Roof http://www.mountainproject.com/v/rogers-roof/105730391.

Thanks. I thought that thing looked familiar.

Curt


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I think I have some short shorts pictures of me here somewhere...
If you want, NA, I could try to find them.


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If you were sincere about not getting dirt on holds yourself, you'd stick clip some webbing to the first bolt, and hang in your harness from that while you change your shoes so your climbing shoes never touch the ground.


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RC is slipping. Page 2 and no one has captured the first post before he sobers up and deletes it. Here it is, and as an aside - I'll pray for rain so that the route is naturally cleaned and notapplicable can finally get a "clean" shot at sending his 5.7 project.

notapplicable wrote:
Keep them the fuck off of it.

Either take you're shoes off when you're not climbing or, at the very minimum, bring a piece of carpet with you and clean them well before you leave the ground. There is no excuse for smearing mud, sand and leaves on every hold for half the route.

1. Dirty shoes = reduced friction. You're hurting yourself.

2. Dirty holds = reduced friction. You're hurting me.

3. The dirt on you're shoes is an aggregate and polishes the holds much faster than just shoe rubber, which results in irreversible reductions in friction for everyone, FOREVER.

Most frustrating of all; this stupid behavior of tromping around in the dirt with you're shoes on isn't isolated to the nOObs. I know climbers with 20+ years on the rock who don't take their shoes off when they hit the ground. Sometimes not for the entire rest period between routes, regardless of whether they're bouldering, clipping bolts or plugging gear. And I've seen it at every crag I've visited.

I personally take my shoes off as soon as I hit the ground, I clean them on my pants before I leave the ground and clean them on my pants as I climb, as needed. Not everyone has to be that OCD but seriously, when I'm downclimbing and find muddy/sandy holds by surprise, holds that are only muddy/sandy because of you slack ass chumps, that shit pisses me off.

Get your shit together people.


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NA at least has enough integrity not to delete his posts.

Regrets are for pussies.


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billcoe_ wrote:

RC is slipping. Page 2 and no one has captured the first post before he sobers up and deletes it. Here it is, and as an aside - I'll pray for rain so that the route is naturally cleaned and notapplicable can finally get a "clean" shot at sending his 5.7 project.

notapplicable wrote:
Keep them the fuck off of it.

Either take you're shoes off when you're not climbing or, at the very minimum, bring a piece of carpet with you and clean them well before you leave the ground. There is no excuse for smearing mud, sand and leaves on every hold for half the route.

1. Dirty shoes = reduced friction. You're hurting yourself.

2. Dirty holds = reduced friction. You're hurting me.

3. The dirt on you're shoes is an aggregate and polishes the holds much faster than just shoe rubber, which results in irreversible reductions in friction for everyone, FOREVER.

Most frustrating of all; this stupid behavior of tromping around in the dirt with you're shoes on isn't isolated to the nOObs. I know climbers with 20+ years on the rock who don't take their shoes off when they hit the ground. Sometimes not for the entire rest period between routes, regardless of whether they're bouldering, clipping bolts or plugging gear. And I've seen it at every crag I've visited.

I personally take my shoes off as soon as I hit the ground, I clean them on my pants before I leave the ground and clean them on my pants as I climb, as needed. Not everyone has to be that OCD but seriously, when I'm downclimbing and find muddy/sandy holds by surprise, holds that are only muddy/sandy because of you slack ass chumps, that shit pisses me off.

Get your shit together people.

Delete posts!?!? How dare you, sir. You have slandered my character. I challenge you!

*Slaps billcoe_ with a glove*


notapplicable


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Kartessa wrote:
NA at least has enough integrity not to delete his posts.

Regrets are for pussies.

Intranet posts are serious business and I are serious cat.


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billcoe_ wrote:

RC is slipping. Page 2 and no one has captured the first post before he sobers up and deletes it. Here it is, and as an aside - I'll pray for rain so that the route is naturally cleaned and notapplicable can finally get a "clean" shot at sending his 5.7 project.

Yeah, I think you missed the issue here.


billcoe_


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granite_grrl wrote:
Yeah, I think you missed the issue here.
You gotsz issues? Dayum!



Maybe NA can start leading instead of having to second and wallow in the leaders filth?


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notapplicable wrote:
Keep them the fuck off of it.

Either take your shoes off when you're not climbing or, at the very minimum, bring a piece of carpet with you and clean them well before you leave the ground. There is no excuse for smearing mud, sand and leaves on every hold for half the route.

1. Dirty shoes = reduced friction. You're hurting yourself.

2. Dirty holds = reduced friction. You're hurting me.

3. The dirt on your shoes is an aggregate and polishes the holds much faster than just shoe rubber, which results in irreversible reductions in friction for everyone, FOREVER.

Most frustrating of all; this stupid behavior of tromping around in the dirt with your shoes on isn't isolated to the nOObs. I know climbers with 20+ years on the rock who don't take their shoes off when they hit the ground. Sometimes not for the entire rest period between routes, regardless of whether they're bouldering, clipping bolts or plugging gear. And I've seen it at every crag I've visited.

I personally take my shoes off as soon as I hit the ground, I clean them on my pants before I leave the ground and clean them on my pants as I climb, as needed. Not everyone has to be that OCD but seriously, when I'm downclimbing and find muddy/sandy holds by surprise, holds that are only muddy/sandy because of you slack ass chumps, that shit pisses me off.

Get your shit together people.

I agree with this... but not the grammatical errors. They made me cringe. I'm sorry. I had to correct them.

On a more serious note, yeah, take off your shoes, people. It also takes away from the beautiful-ness of the actual rock. And it's kind of bad with what was already said.


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HaHa. Damn. I'm ususally pretty good about the whole your/you're thing. That was pretty blatant though.


Ruff_Dog


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Sorry. I read it, and then re-read it and it kept bothering me. Stuff like that happens to the best of us. Unsure


Gdog42


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notapplicable wrote:
Keep them the fuck off of it.

Either take you're shoes off when you're not climbing or, at the very minimum, bring a piece of carpet with you and clean them well before you leave the ground. There is no excuse for smearing mud, sand and leaves on every hold for half the route.

1. Dirty shoes = reduced friction. You're hurting yourself.

2. Dirty holds = reduced friction. You're hurting me.

3. The dirt on you're shoes is an aggregate and polishes the holds much faster than just shoe rubber, which results in irreversible reductions in friction for everyone, FOREVER.

Most frustrating of all; this stupid behavior of tromping around in the dirt with you're shoes on isn't isolated to the nOObs. I know climbers with 20+ years on the rock who don't take their shoes off when they hit the ground. Sometimes not for the entire rest period between routes, regardless of whether they're bouldering, clipping bolts or plugging gear. And I've seen it at every crag I've visited.

I personally take my shoes off as soon as I hit the ground, I clean them on my pants before I leave the ground and clean them on my pants as I climb, as needed. Not everyone has to be that OCD but seriously, when I'm downclimbing and find muddy/sandy holds by surprise, holds that are only muddy/sandy because of you slack ass chumps, that shit pisses me off.

Get your shit together people.

Thanks you for posting this.
Last fall I was at Red River KY for a weekend after it had rained there all day Friday. As a result, the ground around the crag we were at was pretty soft in the late morning. Previous climbers had left mud smeared on the some of the holds on the routes we were doing later in the day.
Earlier when it was still damp on the ground, I didn't want to take my shoes off between climbs because I didn't want to get muddy dirt on my feet and then into my shoes. But I was aware of how crap routes get when people climb them with, well, crap on their shoes. So instead I wiped all that mud off them before going up every time.

That's why I usually pack one of these and a small rag:


They take up next to no space in the pack and only cost a couple of bucks at Mart-Wal. That's not much to spend to preserve both my grip and the route. And holy shit they do a good job of making rubber shoe soles clean and grippy. If you don't want to take off your shoes, use zem!

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dagibbs wrote:
I almost always wear long pants when climbing outside, and one of the reasons is so that I can wipe my shoes on my pants as I start a climb.

I don't care if I have long pants or not, I still wipe my shoes across my calves before (and often during) each climb. I figure if I'm getting dirty then it won't matter if my calves look the part, too.


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billcoe_ wrote:

RC is slipping. Page 2 and no one has captured the first post before he sobers up and deletes it. Here it is, and as an aside - I'll pray for rain so that the route is naturally cleaned and notapplicable can finally get a "clean" shot at sending his 5.7 project.

Yeah, I think you missed the whole Adatesman thing. NA was the one who actually replied to all of Aric's posts before Aric could delete them. I'm not worried about this.

Nor am I worried about him leading considering his penchant for soloing.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
I almost always wear long pants when climbing outside, and one of the reasons is so that I can wipe my shoes on my pants as I start a climb.

I don't care if I have long pants or not, I still wipe my shoes across my calves before (and often during) each climb. I figure if I'm getting dirty then it won't matter if my calves look the part, too.

Yeah, I do that if wearing shorts. I've definitely climbed with dirty calves -- but I do find that pants clean shoes better than naked calves.


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dagibbs wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
I almost always wear long pants when climbing outside, and one of the reasons is so that I can wipe my shoes on my pants as I start a climb.

I don't care if I have long pants or not, I still wipe my shoes across my calves before (and often during) each climb. I figure if I'm getting dirty then it won't matter if my calves look the part, too.

Yeah, I do that if wearing shorts. I've definitely climbed with dirty calves -- but I do find that pants clean shoes better than naked calves.

good point. Honestly, I can't say one way or the other. not sure what that says about both my pants or my calves.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
I almost always wear long pants when climbing outside, and one of the reasons is so that I can wipe my shoes on my pants as I start a climb.

I don't care if I have long pants or not, I still wipe my shoes across my calves before (and often during) each climb. I figure if I'm getting dirty then it won't matter if my calves look the part, too.

Yeah, I do that if wearing shorts. I've definitely climbed with dirty calves -- but I do find that pants clean shoes better than naked calves.

good point. Honestly, I can't say one way or the other. not sure what that says about both my pants or my calves.

Maybe you have WAY hairier calves than I do.


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dagibbs wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
dagibbs wrote:
I almost always wear long pants when climbing outside, and one of the reasons is so that I can wipe my shoes on my pants as I start a climb.

I don't care if I have long pants or not, I still wipe my shoes across my calves before (and often during) each climb. I figure if I'm getting dirty then it won't matter if my calves look the part, too.

Yeah, I do that if wearing shorts. I've definitely climbed with dirty calves -- but I do find that pants clean shoes better than naked calves.

good point. Honestly, I can't say one way or the other. not sure what that says about both my pants or my calves.

Maybe you have WAY hairier calves than I do.
Laugh
It's possible. I'm no gorilla, but I don't shave my legs either. now, on the other hand...


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I would have thought wiping soles at the start of a route would have been an obvious thing to do, for better grip. Hadn't thought about wear on the rock ... but breaking holds has a bigger impact. I always use velcro shoes to make it easy to take 'em off after each route.


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Bouldering at Castle hill in muddy conditions our group met and climbed with some people, one of them had a pair of oversized Crocs to slip their feet and shoes into to walk around and figure out beta in the muck.
I know, some people find Crocs unappealing, but the same can be done with any old cheap rubber shoes... boots?
Just an idea... You know, if its really muddy..

HATE it when your belaying: "oh hey, your shoes are really muddy"
"oh its ok"
I stand corrected oh wise one. PENALTY SLACK!

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