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Syd
May 6, 2013, 11:56 PM
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I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible. Quadcopter/octocopter is the best idea if you don't mind the noise but you need to get a good one or do a bit of work to avoid the "jello" effect of vibration on the rolling shutter of CMOS video cameras. The Parrot AR Drone 2.0 looks great but it will be better when it gets GPS later this year. It's standard videos however are terrible due to the jello waves. There's volumes on the net on how to improve the quality. I've no doubt that the technology will become cheaper and more practical in the near future.
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marc801
May 7, 2013, 12:23 AM
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Syd wrote: I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible. Helmet cams can work OK for some sports. Climbing isn't one of them.
Syd wrote: Quadcopter/octocopter is the best idea if you don't mind the noise but you need to get a good one or do a bit of work to avoid the "jello" effect of vibration on the rolling shutter of CMOS video cameras. The Parrot AR Drone 2.0 looks great but it will be better when it gets GPS later this year. It's standard videos however are terrible due to the jello waves. There's volumes on the net on how to improve the quality. I've no doubt that the technology will become cheaper and more practical in the near future. It's all about image stabilization - either in-camera, the mounting system, or post-processing. All have their pros and cons, but I agree about decreasing prices and technology improvements. Regarding quad/hex/octo-copters I think we'd all like to see: * much longer battery life * much greater radio-control range * reasonably priced live video down-feed Serious rigs take two people - a pilot and a cam operator. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.
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Syd
May 7, 2013, 4:21 AM
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marc801 wrote: Syd wrote: I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible. Helmet cams can work OK for some sports. Climbing isn't one of them. Yes, that's what I meant. No good for climbing but for many sports Go Pro is great.
In reply to: It's all about image stabilization - either in-camera, the mounting system, or post-processing. All have their pros and cons, but I agree about decreasing prices and technology improvements. Regarding quad/hex/octo-copters I think we'd all like to see: * much longer battery life * much greater radio-control range * reasonably priced live video down-feed Serious rigs take two people - a pilot and a cam operator. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. I haven't seen any post processing technique to remove the jello effect, despite much searching. Normal imagine stabilization as in Virtual Dub, doesn't help. Gimbal mounts help but anti vibration mounts and balancing of the props seems essential. The DJI Phantom is the next best buy but it needs a Gro Pro Bac Pack and the results out of the box are still poor. I agree that it definitely needs an extra person to film. There's a little very cheap voice controlled one due out next year but I wouldn't hold your breath about video quality.
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jamesnater
May 7, 2013, 9:28 PM
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We all know GoPro climbing videos aren't meant for climbers to enjoy, but for showing friend & family what you're up to. It's usually one of the only ways to show gramgram what it's like to be up on the wall without actually hauling her up yourself. That being said, I'd use a helmet cam so they can see where you are on the wall, a chesty mount will only show what's directly in front of you at all times. Try not to move your head a lot though when it's helmet mounted. And remember, you're not filming it for other climbers to enjoy, if you were, you wouldn't be using a GoPro. If you're trying to get good overhead footage of climbing on lead though, just climb an easy route near by, set up a fixed line, and have someone else jug up and film from above while you're on lead.
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billcoe_
May 9, 2013, 7:26 PM
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I hope that this can be of assistance, its not mounting a GoPro but it's close being a dog mounting a leg. It looks like the key to being effective here is to just stick it in there. Good luck!
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Scotty_T0
Mar 21, 2014, 1:25 PM
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Using a GoPro is for hobby climbers to be able to show their friends and family what they do. Unless you're sponsored or have some seriously commited friends who are willing to strap themselves to the wall for most of the day and film you GoPros and other action cameras are the best option. It would also be quite hard to strap a DSLR camera to a helmet. My buddy has a GoPro and we tried using the chest harness with it and that was awful, you get a really confusing shot of the wall about 1 inch away. Not the mention that it gets in the way there alot. If you go with the helmet mount just make sure that you are wary of it and aren't "whipping your hair back and forth" climbing is wicked and should be shared no matter what equipment you use.
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