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rokshoxbkr19


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I'll take over for a bit then. I am stoked about all the responses we got for the NEW PA CLIMBERS CLUB, and I will start by saying that my apartment and the use of my wall is open to anyone out there who needs a place to crash and a partner to climb with. I also bike, snowboard and just picked up my first whitewater Kayak. I love how this is taking off and I am definitely in for some stuff in March, and April and May and June and those other months whose names I can't quite remember just now. I will say again; I am hitting up CLIMBANSIUM tonight and Thursday for anyone who wants to come and I going Snowboarding up at Blue Mountain this weekend. See ya soon everyone. And thanks GANSSCR for starting this up. 8)


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I like this, looks like Pa climbers are getting a good move on. I posted up in the regional forums about a Emmaus Boulers Clean up day.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...iewtopic.php?t=49016

Pm me or post up if your interested.


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well, i havent been here in ages...(a month) but I like the idea...


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well, i havent been here in ages...(a month) but I like the idea...

Randy,

Glad to see your back.


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that would be sweet with the pa climbers thread


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Wow, I just started this thing, and already I am leaving. :roll: Looks as though work has me moving to GA. Wish you all luck with what is in PA to climb. 8)

You have layed the cement, we will build the building. Good luck with everything.


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To those of you that responded to rokshoxbkr19's call for a PA climbing club,

Due to health issues, Eric has asked me to take over duties (temporarily) until he returns to good health.

SO...what would you like to get out of a PA climbing club?

Gail


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where is it if there is one


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hey everyone, i know eric, as a friend and a climber, and i think what he is trying to do is fantastic. like most things in life climbing is much more enjoyable when experienced with other people. Establishing a PA climbing club is an excellent idea and the only thing that i am looking for this club to provide, is friendly people with the right attitudes towards climbing. I hope everyone is getting ready for this climbing season, because i think its going to be excellent!!!


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I for one am all for meeting new partners in the area. Recent changes to the website have made it harder than ever to do that.

We used to be able to find ppl who were geographically close to home and relate to us on age/gender as well. Now those pieces seem to have disappeared from our "Find People" link. This was a very valuable tool to hooking up in a vastly large expanse of area (namingly PA/MD) yet we are near so much valuable climbing regions.

I find there are an awful lot of climbers in the east and west but I wonder where did the people in the middle go? I live in south central PA...Mercersburg for those of you who would know my tiny town.

All those interested in meeting new faces this winter or spring, feel free to contact me. I have a partner that I've climbed with for some time...many of you may know him (rockrohler) but I am always looking to meet more climbers.

Danyelle


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so when the weather turns up into the 40's, why don't we get together and climb some rock.

Anyone game?


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so when the weather turns up into the 40's, why don't we get together and climb some rock.

Anyone game?

can't happen soon enough...


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so when the weather turns up into the 40's, why don't we get together and climb some rock.

Anyone game?

can't happen soon enough...

ehh, your right. It's only Janurary.


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Wishful thinking and all. I'm game when the weather gets above freezing.

K.


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hi. ive been climbing for a year and i have about 2 or 3 friends who seem to becoming committed to climbing. i certainly would love to be part of the "PA Climbing Club" or whatever it would be called and i think i can speak for my climbing dudes and say they would too. however (and i am NOT volunteering) i think some central organization would be very helpful to our cause. not to mention a better means of communication (i.e. e-mail newsletter). just my nickels worth.


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oh yeah and we could use climbnasium as ameeting place for any organized events or trips. just another useless thought that fell outta my head.


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im up for some climbing as soon as my fingers wont freeze to the rocks. i hate pa winters. :(


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Climbnasium tonight


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Hey Rokshox and Krichtnyte,

Both you guys need to get some PA climbing pictures on your profile page. What's this Red Rock stuff? Where's the trees? Wish you weren't here?

Put a picture of you shoveling snow on your page if you must. But make it PA. The Corrugated State.


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*BUMP*

I'll tell you, the MASS CLIMBERS THREAD has been responsible for over three dozen people haveing someone to climb with ! It's the best way to meet people, make plans, chew the grizzle, and cultivate new potential friends/ partners.. GOOD FOR YOU !! Go with it .


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where is this some one pm me or something with info on it


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I need everyones's email address so I can get a mass email going when we are planning a trop to the gym or roadtrip or whatever. Hit me up at rokshoxbkr18@cs.com, or send it to me PM, but my email would be better. Thanks guys


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Ignore my previous statement. Eric has corrected my confusion.


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Hey guys and gals...
I am just a lowly MASSHOLE; but I thought I would offer my opinion to anyone who wants it. I agree with Bonesz; the MASS CLIMBERS thread has helped me meet a bunch of truly nice pople. Also, when you get to about page 174 or so, it's fun to look back at what was being said/done 4 or 5 months ago,...you know when it didn't hurt to climb.
Keep it going...and try to challenge the wasted free time(10's upon 100's of illspent manhours) of the MASSHOLES.

Ok, I'm done.


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I'm going to Wilkes Rocks Tuesday night (20th) with a bunch of climbing buddies if anybody is looking for something to do... Also we're going to some gym in the allentown area on Saturday (I'll find out the name tomorrow).

Nate


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where is this some one pm me or something with info on it

you are indeed very stupid


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Keep those emails coming. I want to get everyone connected in this group so everyone can contact one another easily, so keep sending those emails guys. It is too hard to PM everyone separately. Send them to me at rokshoxbkr18@cs.com Thanks all


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so when the weather turns up into the 40's, why don't we get together and climb some rock.

Anyone game?

can't happen soon enough...

I second that :)


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Thanks Danyelle, Keep em coming


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I NEED EVERYONE'S EMAIL. I want to get everyone connected in this group so everyone can contact one another easily, so keep sending those emails guys. It is too hard to PM everyone separately. Send them to me at rokshoxbkr18@cs.com Thanks all

Why do you need everyone's email addy? That's the point of this thread! Just let everyone know when and where on here, and I promise the PMs will start coming your way. So don't make it harder than it is.

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I'm going to Wilkes Rocks Tuesday night (20th) with a bunch of climbing buddies if anybody is looking for something to do...

Exactly!

randy


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Rwaltmeyer, everyone is entitled to their view. I have had something like 10 PM's from people asking me to get an organized email system going so I am doing it. If something is posted on page 10 and we are on page 15, people might miss it. The idea of a mass email is for people to get in contact with people very easily and very quickly. So far, everyone else seems to like it. I am certainly not in charge here nor do I hope anyone will ever be. This is just to make things easier and more fun. If you don't want to give me your email, by all means don't. No problem. Furthermore, no one has to give me their email if they don't want to. The whole idea of this was to just be relaxed and meet more new people in a chill way. Please don't ever think I am telling people what to do, or forcing my ideas on anyone. I will go back and revise my request for emails as I can see how it might be viewed as forceful. I agree that most things can get viewed on this thread, but this email thing is just another means by which to contact one another and spread ideas and good news.


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Pfyreman,
I will be at Wilkes Rocks around 3ish
~Rob


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Gblauer had mentioned a possible event at a gym. Perhaps an overnight party where we rent the gym for the night. Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter???


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Pfyreman,
I will be at Wilkes Rocks around 3ish
~Rob

I should have put this in my original post:
We'll be there from 6:30 or 7 till close....

Nate


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where is Wilkes ???


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I'm going to be bouldering (or attempting to boulder...*grin*) at PRG this week today and Thursday. I'll be there both days probably around 4-4:30 (they open at 4) so if anyone is looking to climb, feel free to stop by. PM me to let me know if you're up for it. I'd like to get some routes in, but since my partner is busy this week I decided to just go bouldering by myself unless I find someone else to climb with.

Kim


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[color=blue]Party at my place this Saturday. It is a pretty small apartment. But I am inviting anyone who wants to come down and crank on my wall and watch some vids and drink and talk about climbing. You can stay over at my place, mi casa es sus casa. Come on, PM me if you want in...


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There are also some really cool bars in walking distance from my apt. If I get too many people wanting to come I'll have to make a cut off, but I don't forsee that happening.


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where is Wilkes ???

just south of Scranton in Wilkes-Barre on S. Main St.

you are in the Harrisburg area right? Too far to go for a party when I gotta work the next day...


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No problem Phyreman.


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I'm going to be bouldering (or attempting to boulder...*grin*) at PRG this week today and Thursday. I'll be there both days probably around 4-4:30 (they open at 4) so if anyone is looking to climb, feel free to stop by. PM me to let me know if you're up for it. I'd like to get some routes in, but since my partner is busy this week I decided to just go bouldering by myself unless I find someone else to climb with.

Kim

get ready for the gov stable comp...it'd be cool to see you kick some ass


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with the current state of the PAC will there even be a GS Comp?!

uh...and...rokshoxbkr19, no hard feelings...whatever works for you. I can see it potentially working on a regional basis. But does a Pittsburg climber really care if I'm off to Birdsboro on a weeknight, probably not.


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Probably not, but they might care and you might care if your partner just bailed on you for a trip in 2 days and you want to get the information out to people. And the mass email will let everyone in all areas know, so the person in Pitt might not care, but the people in Lancaster probably will. I am just trying to use all means to create a community here.


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But does a Pittsburg climber really care if I'm off to Birdsboro on a weeknight, probably not.

It's working on the MASS climbers thread...


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But does a Pittsburg climber really care if I'm off to Birdsboro on a weeknight, probably not.

It's working on the MASS climbers thread...

exactly... so why bother w/ email? but...who cares. I really don't.

it just seems like a duplicate effort IMHO...but...thats my opinion.

randy


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im probably headin up to climbnasium on fri night if anyone wants to join. not sure what time yet but ill get back to you tomorrow or fri.


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Hey,
I'll be at Climbnasium friday night too. What time you going? I got a few responses about my party on Saturday night. Let me know soon everyone


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im probably goin to climbnasium around 7.

also i just registered for the gs comp. anyone else goin?


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I have my mind set for it but things could change between then and now.


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Hey guys just wanted to throw this idea out. In the Maryland/DC area we have a yahoo group. http://groups.yahoo.com/...outdoorrockclimbing/

Along with posting messages you have a calender and webspace to put pics and databases. It has a few more things than just a thread on rc.com.

Just wanted to throw that out there incase you didn't know about them. BTW they are free.


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Thanks PaulV7. Good to know


krichtenyte


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anyone joinin me at the gym tonight ???


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Gblauer had mentioned a possible event at a gym. Perhaps an overnight party where we rent the gym for the night. Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter???

My only suggestion is if we are going to go to such expense. Make sure it's one of the bigger nicer gyms in the area.

Danyelle


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[quote="rwaltermyer"]with the current state of the PAC will there even be a GS Comp?!

I'm certain there will be. My friend Mike has been working for weeks on the stables and is one of many coordinating the event. And for any of you that haven't yet met him, a stellar guy. Come enjoy and climb!

There is a website for the PAC detailing the comps and the organiation if you have time check it out.

www.paclimbers.org

Danyelle


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I'm heading to Reading with some friends tomorrow (saturday) to climb at Cliffhangers... We'll probably get there around 11 and leave when we get tired...
I'll be wearing an access fund t-shirt, if you show up be sure to say hi ;)

Nate


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Hey PA PEEPS, what's up? I wanted to know about the climbing trips us PA people have taken. Let's here all about them. My trips include Central Cali to such places as Sacramento, Tahoe and San Francisco and I have bouldered on the beachers of La Jolla in Southern Cali. I have been all over Utah. I took a trip to St. George and Zion and loved it so much I got a job in Zion for last spring and summer and lived out there for 5 months waiting tables and guiding. I drove X country and spent time in Moab, Nevada, CO in Rifle, Estes Park and other areas in Rocky Mountain. I stopped in Missouri, climbed a few buildings in Illinois and hit some stuff in NY, MD and other areas in PA. Zion was amazing. It was wonderful to live in the canyon all summer. I learned so much. Moab was terrific too. I will think about some great details and stories and post some stuff from my trips, but lets here about all your adventures.


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yeah..after checking out PAC.org I was pleasantly surprised to read that the PAC is reorganized w/ new leaders (climbinganne are you in on it? gail?)

I'm excited for what is to come!

randy


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ive only been climbing a year now, and although i havent had the opertunities that some have had, i think that the climbing that i have done has been memorable and self satisfying . I've done sport in central pa, and i've bouldered in pa, md and puerto rico ( on vacation i found a boulder and dicked around on it, but im still putting it on my list of places i've climbed haha). I CAN'T WAIT for this spring when i can hit up some great new places to climb, and i can't wait to take some nice long trips and get out of central pa!


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yeah..after checking out PAC.org I was pleasantly surprised to read that the PAC is reorganized w/ new leaders (climbinganne are you in on it? gail?)

I'm excited for what is to come!

randy

I know Anne is but not sure of Gail.


krichtenyte


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so far outside of pa ive only climbed at the gunks and red rocks, nevada movin to texas though in the spring 8)


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Mitchal and I have volunteered our time to PAC.


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are there any PAC cleanups coming up?


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are there any PAC cleanups coming up?

Not sure, but, you can contact jkarns via PM on this site. He is the president.


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I CAN'T WAIT for this spring when i can hit up some great new places to climb, and i can't wait to take some nice long trips and get out of central pa!

I'll be back at PSU in the fall ifyou ever want a climbing buddy to take trips with, perhaps to the New River Gorge or somewhere down there... :lol:


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does neone know newhere in pa where there is no snow and you can climb ??


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why don't we organize a clean up of our own, why wait for the PAC?


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does neone know newhere in pa where there is no snow and you can climb ??

yeah... a gym.

On another note, I'm excited for whats to come with the PAC, after the rough year they had last year I figured that would be it for them. But, its exciting to see others stepping up to the plate.

IMO, the biggest challenge remains representing the entire state. Hopefully, activities can be organized outside of Central PA (Pittsburgh, SE PA, NE PA).

Best of luck.
randy


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does neone know newhere in pa where there is no snow and you can climb ??

Wow, that is a tough one. I am assuming you mean alpine style snow climbs. Could probably come up with some short ones. Maybe you could do laps. I was thinking about that the other day when I was jogging up hill with a 50lb pack (slow jog). Not a bad idea for alpine training.


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I am wondering where to find ice down here in south central/eastern PA. Nothing big. Just beginner stuff.


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why don't we organize a clean up of our own, why wait for the PAC?

I believe Dontfall mentioned organizing a cleanup of the Emmaus boulder site, near Allentown. I've been there once and definitely agree that the trail could use some clearing and whatnot. As far as I know (and Chris, I know you are reading this, so feel free to clarify) he is in the process of talking to everyone he needs to in order to make sure we don't step on anyone's toes.

K.


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On another note, I'm excited for whats to come with the PAC, after the rough year they had last year I figured that would be it for them. But, its exciting to see others stepping up to the plate.

IMO, the biggest challenge remains representing the entire state. Hopefully, activities can be organized outside of Central PA (Pittsburgh, SE PA, NE PA).

Randy--

I'm very pleased that your outlook toward the PAC has changed. I know we're fighting an uphill battle to improve public opinion, but we're working on it! I fully agree with you concerning the challenges ahead, and we do plan to address them AFTER the Governor Stable competition. Right now, that is consuming all our efforts. What needs to be understood is that the four active PAC members all live in the immediate Harrisburg area. Therefor, we are not totally on the pulse of climbing in the rest of the state and cannot adequately respond to the needs of climbers all over. In the very near future, we will be seeking motivated representatives in all regions of the state. It will only be through them that we will be able to truly become a state-wide organization.

In the meantime, I haven't seen your name on the list of registered competitors, Randy! What's taking you so long???

Rock on

Josh


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In the meantime, I haven't seen your name on the list of registered competitors, Randy! What's taking you so long???

Rock on

Josh

Hate to make excuses, but my shoes are shot right now, haven't climbed since November, and my first GS comp was so embarassing that I didn't even turn in my sheet. That being said, GS hosts some of the best bouldering I've ever touched.

Question for you Josh: will the comp price include the pass to boulder at GS for the rest of the year? The first year is was no. (Everyone thought it did) Last year, it was a yes.

So if it doesn't I guess I have to choose btwn comp or PAC membership to climb at GS every other time.

Also, while I have your attention... what if one saturday in the fall, there would be a GS "Open House" where anyone could come climb for a day, feel it out, and then once they see whats there, it would turn into a "membership drive" for sure. (The scheduling would depend b/c I know that you can't climb at GS so...maybe an intro 1/2 yr rate, until they can renew it in the spring)... I haven't worked all the bugs out yet, but the crux of my idea is to open up GS for free...which brings in the hesitant climbers, and then they'll pay to come back. (Sort of a free sample, if you will :) )

randy


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Question for you Josh: will the comp price include the pass to boulder at GS for the rest of the year? The first year is was no. (Everyone thought it did) Last year, it was a yes.

Yes, the entry fee for the competition will include access to the boulders for the year. Unlike last year, you will receive your access card on the day of the competition, or even before if you desire!

As far as the fall...we are working on ideas for some kind of fall event, but that is all still up in the air right now...

And I don't take excuses. I'll be looking for your name in the registered climbers list!

Josh


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I need to put a plug in for another thread I just fired up:

E-newsletter?!

Give me some feedback guys, let me know if you like my idea...


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Yes, the entry fee for the competition will include access to the boulders for the year. Unlike last year, you will receive your access card on the day of the competition, or even before if you desire!

As far as the fall...we are working on ideas for some kind of fall event, but that is all still up in the air right now...

And I don't take excuses. I'll be looking for your name in the registered climbers list!

Josh

Then I'll be signing up very shortly.


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OK, I guess this is a PAC thread now. OH well.


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OK, I guess this is a PAC thread now. OH well.

Rokshox... Please don't think I'm intentionally trying to butt head w/ you... but this thread is a PA thread...so as long as it has relevance to PA, I consider it in bounds. Go check out the MASS Climbers Thread... it sways all over.

What I hate is when climbers go off topic about some inside joke or something... but if its about PA...its in, IMO.


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I agree, everything with PA is game for this thread and I am pleased to see that PA people are voicing ideas and opinions. I was just stating what seems to have occurred here. No big deal, everyone should feel free to say what's on their mind, and I don't want to stifle that. It is just that I got some nasty PM's from Jkarns about my starting of the New Climbing Club for PA post and now that we have started this thread he seems to have taken full advantage of it. I only hope that this Thread does not solely become a PAC thread, but remains more of a PA community thread. I am sure I will be jumped on for this, but that has never bothered me before.


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Ok so scrolling back a few pages there was a request for climbing adventure tick lists. I think it's exciting to learn where all we have been and I'd love any stories from places I haven't visited yet.

My list is rather modest...still growing.

Central PA (my home grounds)
1. James Buchanan Rock
2. Shaffer Rocks (aka Hermitage)
3. White Rocks
4. Pole Steeple
5. Chickies Rock

West Virginia (so close to home)
1. Seneca Rocks
2. Nelson Rocks
3. Summersville Lake (futal attempts only)

Nevada
1. Red Rocks
2. Zion (saw it from the canyon floor...dieing to climb it)

California
1. Joshua Tree (my fav place to date!)

Places on my list to tackle this season if anyone would like to partner with me...

Maryland
1. Rocks State Park
2. Caderock
3. Annapolis Rock

West Virginia
1. Revisit Seneca and Nelson Rocks

New York
1. Gunks

New Hampshire
1. Franconia Notch
2. Cathedral Ledge
3. Rumney

Until spring I'll be looking for folks who would like to join me skiing and plan out my time for the thaw to hit the road for the cliffs.

Danyelle


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I only hope that this Thread does not solely become a PAC thread, but remains more of a PA community thread.

I agree 100%....diversity is always nice.


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Danyelle, NICE LIST. Modest, I think not. Anytime you want to go to Zion let me know, it will always be a special place for me. Living in the canyon for 5 months was an experience like no other. I also have some big goals to achieve at Seneca this spring and summer. Maybe we can get together sometime.

Rwaltermyer: I hope we can climb and play on some common ground this summer. :D


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why don't we organize a clean up of our own, why wait for the PAC?

I believe Dontfall mentioned organizing a cleanup of the Emmaus boulder site, near Allentown. I've been there once and definitely agree that the trail could use some clearing and whatnot. As far as I know (and Chris, I know you are reading this, so feel free to clarify) he is in the process of talking to everyone he needs to in order to make sure we don't step on anyone's toes.

K.

I have been in contact with roclimb and jkarns via pm and they have been giving me ideas with the possible cleanup at Emmaus. I have recieved the phone number I need to get ahold of the person who is in charge of Emmaus (thanks to roclimb) and I'll be talking to her and hopefully this cleanup can happen. I have a bunch of Ideas of how Emmaus can be improved with the cleanup and I think the PAC would be a great way to get those ideas worked on. I not only want to get Emmaus cleaned up but would also like to clean as many crags as possible that need to be improved. If anyone would like to talk to me about this more, please pm.


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It is just that I got some nasty PM's from Jkarns about my starting of the New Climbing Club for PA post and now that we have started this thread he seems to have taken full advantage of it.

rokshox--

I don't really know what your deal is or why you seem to be against me and the PAC. I've never met you (although I have been at the climbnasium several nights you said you were going). The PAC is work hard right in your backyard. I don't know why you wouldn't embrace the organization. I also don't know why you have to deface my character like that. For the record, I am posting both of the messages that I sent to you for the public to evaluate. I don't think there was anything nasty in them; I really was just looking for honest feedback. I hope we can overcome our differences, and I hope to see you at GS. After all, it is the biggest climbing event in PA!!

Josh


Here's the mesages I wrote to rockshox. I received no direct reply.
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Hi--

I noticed you made some negative comments about the PAC in one of your posts. What issues do you have with the organization? We've been going through a lot of restructuring lately, but we're back on track. I'd be very interested in any feedback you have concerning the organization.

cheers

Josh Karns
President

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Hello--

I really would appreciate it if you could get back to me on that feedback!

Thanks

Josh

Yikes, I feel like Centarl!


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I want to end this right now, for the sake of the thread. There were other PM's, but it doesn't matter. I have nothing against you personally or the PAC. Just let it go as will I. We both want the same thing, better PA climbing and a community of PA climbers, we just want to do it in different ways. But I don't see any reason why we can't work together or why there have to be any negative feelings. I will start by apologizing if I offended you in any way. Good Luck with the PAC Jkarns, sincerely and I would be happy to help in any way you need. Sorry to everyone else in this thread for letting personal feelings hijack my own posts. PEACE 8)


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was thinking the same thing but you would need a few more pages to attain that status :D

Rocshox19 Wrote;
Im looking for ice to climb in south central / eastern PA.

Check out Kintnersville. Its the big spot down that way. Or the Narrows north of Harrisburgh for central PA ice.

~Rob


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thanks roclimb


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Rox,

Yeah that would be great. Don't know that Zion is in the horizon soon, since West coast trips take $$ and I'm not swimming in it right now :( But I'd be more than happy to hit WV or any of the other places within a days drive of home.

Danyelle

Send me a PM with any dates you might be free. I'm both a planner and spontaneous so anything goes.


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Hey Danyelle,

Have you thought of going down to Oozefest at all in April? It's in WV and there will be a bunch of people there. I'm sure some days people will be heading up to Seneca to hit the rocks there.

K.


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I'd love too but early April in WV isn't exactly warm and neither is the host. There is bad blood and I'd just rather not. Thanks for the invitation though and have fun if you get to go.

Danyelle


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I'd love too but early April in WV isn't exactly warm and neither is the host. There is bad blood and I'd just rather not. Thanks for the invitation though and have fun if you get to go.

Danyelle

what? I can't wait for the weather in April. Anything will beat the temps now.


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It might not be 60 out right now...yeah April days are warm but night time lows on avg of 32 degrees don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! And that's in town, shave a few more off up on the hilltops.

I think I'll wait until the night temps aren't requiring me to sleep in 3 layers of thermals and my jacket. I have experienced that already in Joshua Tree...some of the coldest nights of my life.

Danyelle


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Show me the ICE! I just ordered a pair of tools and my partner has crampons. We were going crazy climbing indoors, so now we won't have to dread the winter. We are officially ready to tackle some ice in the York, Lancaster Harrisburg area. Since we are really rock climbers and don't have any ice pro, we will TR for now. Maybe lead some mixed once we get some exprience. Any suggestions?


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there has to be a few good waterfalls along the Susquehanna....


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Wilkes Rocks Sunday afternoon (hopefully).


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This may be a futile effort, but I would like to find some alpine style snow/ice ascents within one hour of York, PA. I realize I won't find anything 5000' or anything like that, but it would be fun to get out on a weekend and get some good exercise and practice alpine skills. Any ideas or suggestions. It seems like there would be some stuff above Harrisburg, west towards Michaux State Forest, and perhaps along the Susquahanna.

Any suggestions for sure hits. Let me know.


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All PA climbers...If you are interested in the Governor Stable Bouldering competition on March 27th...please go to this link. Please help the PAC by posting your intention to climb at the competition on this thread. AS soon as we get 15 names, rrradam will allow us to post the competition as an "Event" and we will have constant homepage exposure.

Please help your fellow PA climbers, Please help the PAC

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...79&highlight=#619079


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Anyone game for some bouldering or TRing in or around Allentown about 2 weeks if the weather allows us? I know of some good spots as listed in the PA's RDB.

Maybe we could get a full day of climbing if possible. We could then go chill at my apartment and order some pizza to end a good day.


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weather dependent...Mitchal, Oakleemax, iamnotender and I would be interested...


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Sorry, headed to the catskills for some of their fine ice climbing and snowboarding. Sounds like fun though. Peace


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Whatda guys game for? Where at?

I pmed you Gail.


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Like I said, Chris, any weekend after V-day, if the weather is fine I'd definitely be up for it.

K.


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Hey Gail, I want a trip report for Potrero. Come on, How was it???


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Funny you should ask, I am writing one right now. In short, it was AWESOME. I felt like I died and went to heaven. it was a sport climber's paradise. Where else can you climb 10+ pitches of very safely bolted moderate climbs? Check the photos that I posted.


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Well Gail mentioned to me Haycock. I'm game for it. I've heard some great stuff about it. Any others interested?


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Funny you should ask, I am writing one right now. In short, it was AWESOME. I felt like I died and went to heaven. it was a sport climber's paradise. Where else can you climb 10+ pitches of very safely bolted moderate climbs? Check the photos that I posted.

I just saw the pics you posted. That place looks beautiful. Great Pics Gail. I wanna hear all about it at the Comp.


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Chris, I spent a lot of time at Haycock this fall as you can see in my pics, and I gotta say its spectacular bouldering there. I'm definetly game whenever you wanna go, but I'd highly reccomend waiting for the ground to clear up a bit, as it is a treacherous place to navigate. Just lemme know.

Gail, looks like you guys had an incredible time!! Can't wait for the TR

<=glen=>


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Thanks Glen, will keep that in mind. Randy always mentioned to me I should go there when I get a chance to climb. Maybe I'll go to EMS and buy a guidebook.


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I don't know if you can buy the guidebook at EMS, but you can definetly get it off of Newenglandbouldering.com. I'd highly reccommend getting the book, but honestly you'll probably still get lost. I'd also seriously reccommend going there with someone who's been there before, albeit myself or not. Good luck!

<=glen=>


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Well of course I'm not gonn go by myself if this area is so good. I am pretty sure EMS has them as I saw they had them before when I asked.


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i am hoping the rain and above freezing temps may lead to some snow free topouts at haycock by next week. thats if we dont get any more snow than whats already on the ground. so i am on a wait and see basis for haycock. if the conditions come together, pm, mail or post here and i'd be happy to show anyone around.


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well is Haycock back in the mountains like in the shade and such?


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oh yeah...very well covered... typical state games land.


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Yeah when i last went to haycock i felt like i was going to be hunted its all woods, its a good walk to get back to the bigger boulders too.


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Is anyone up for some semi cold weather bouldering on Tuesday afternoon at South Mountain Boulders a.k.a. Bauer Rock? The weather looks like it's gonna be in the 40's and I would like to take advantage of it. You can pm me on here or call me at 610-791-5571 and ask for Chris S. I'll have class till 11:45 or so and I'd be able to get to the Rocks around 12 ish providing I do not get lost. (I can see the rocks from my college so it can't be that far)


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ahhhhh...that sharp rock on pretty-boy-virgin-skin-haven't-climbed-since-November...

I'll pass!


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I might make my way to south mountain this friday depending on what time i get home, but maybe next week, im going to haycock this week, seems all the snow melted if anyones intrested in going there pm me i could use someone to show me around


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ahhhhh...that sharp rock on pretty-boy-virgin-skin-haven't-climbed-since-November...

I'll pass!

I understand Randy. The rock is super frictionlicious but it will scrape layers of skin right off your hands if they aren't tough enough. Ask kimmyt. And plus the drive you have isn't worth it. We will hit up the Gunks soon or later. (I hope)

Whether or not I find someone, I plan on going. I need rock. It's going to be 50 degrees or so tomorrow. I cannot pass up the chance. I manily want to get a look at the area and see what could use a good cleaning.


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Alas, work calls.

*sigh*


K.


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The weather looks to be allowing this thread to finally lead to some actual outdoor climbing. If anyone is up for it, I'd like to get a group together for next weekend at Haycock. It's a long weekend for me, so sat, sun and/or monday is good for me. I am planning on keeping an eye on the weather before setting a day, but I think by wed. it should be close enough to call. I have a guidebook, a pretty good knowlwge of the area, and a car coming up from Philly, anyone interested?

mattcurtius@hotmail.com


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Darn. I would totally be up for it, but I'm not gonna be around this weekend. Keep posting here, though, in the future so I can hop on the train!!

K.


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If you are talking about a week from this sunday, I might be up for it.

Keep on posting


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I am thinking this weekend, 2-14, 15 or 16. if anyone else is in, pm me. kimmyt and dontfall, hopefully we'll meet up some other time when the weather and daylight give us more options.


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where are you looking to go on the 15th?


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i was planning on going to haycock, but scubasnyder checked it out and said the rock is still covered with snow and ice. i guess i am just going to hit the boulders here in philly. if you have the scoop on anything else within day trip distance, let me know. if it has to be local, i can show anyone around wissahickon. i know of a few nice spots other than the usual livezy.


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Going outdoors to chickies tomorrow or one of the off the beaten path sport climbing areas down here by me. Anyone wanna come?


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The weather report this morning said Saturday will hit low 50's!!!
I have to work all night Friday and Saturday, but if the weather looks that good I'm climbing anyway! Probably go to Tilbury to start teaching my brother Trad...


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Going outdoors to chickies tomorrow or one of the off the beaten path sport climbing areas down here by me. Anyone wanna come?

where and what time? I could possibly climb


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we should be goin to chickies around 3 on monday,


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can't do that. I am booked at 3. bummer. what routes are you going to do?


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Kimmyt and I right now are planning on cranking at Bauer Rock (Soouth Mountain Boulders) on Saturday. Anyone and Everyone welcome. I'll post up more as we know what is going on.


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Replace cranking with 'flailing' in my case, and you hit it right on the head. Company is welcome, particularly company with crashpads. *grin*

K.


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Lynn Hill is coming to Philadelphia!

For anyone who doesn't know, Lynn is a legend and is considered to be the best female climber in the world.

Friday, February 27 at 8 pm
Houston Hall, Hall of Flags, University of Pennsylvania
$5 General Admission

See posting in main East Coast Section.
http://rockclimbing.com/...iewtopic.php?t=52841

Cheers, Terry


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Mitchal and I will be there...


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GO PA!!! Woohoo nice thread!

I've climbed in PA once, and hope to climb there many more times. I find myself in the Central Susquehanna Valley (choss central) a few times a year, and have contacted a few of you before in hopes of finding rock nearby.

gblau and mitch have been helpful, as has anne, scuba (thanks again for the belay at moc) and a slew of others.

I went to Susquehanna U. If any of you ever went there, you know what's up (wink, nudge).

Anyway, good luck with your thread. I look forward to checking it every now and then, and using it to find partners around the random holidays when I visit the land of The Yeung.


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I look forward to checking it every now and then, and using it to find partners around the random holidays when I visit the land of The Yeung.

mmmmmmmm......

Happy anniversary Yuengling!


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I don't live in Pennsylvania... but I lived there for my first 18 years...any chance I would be welcomed here? Pennsylvania is where I got off the ground and I still want to be a part of it.

so... Howdy everyone. Come north come spring and CLIMB!

-Drew


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I don't live in Pennsylvania... but I lived there for my first 18 years...any chance I would be welcomed here? Pennsylvania is where I got off the ground and I still want to be a part of it.

so... Howdy everyone. Come north come spring and CLIMB!

-Drew

your more than welcome to come on in brutha...we are friendly...


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I wasn't worried about ya'll being friendly; most people from home are. Everyone going to the Gov. Stables comp? I can't make it... I'll be there in spirit. Its amazing that you can have a comp at the end of March... we will still be climbing solid ice up here about then. :roll:


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OK, I need a partner for This coming Monday or Wednesday. The weather is supposed to be great. I am up for trad or sport. I am interested in going down to Old Rag in VA about 3 hours away if anyone wantes to go. I would also be interested in hitting up Birdsboro or some nice trad in PA that I haven't gotten to yet. I want an all day session here and would really love to do some trad, but sport is cool too. GET AT ME IF YOU WANT TO GO. Oh, I would be wanting to climb at least 5.8-5.10 trad (willing to lead all) and try anything on sport. IF you really want to go and don't climb as hard, don't worry, I love to climb with anyone for real. The more the better. I also love to teach so any newbies are welcom too, PEACE.

EROCK


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XCEL is in, anyone else interested??? Mini PA gathering. Come on.


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darn college kids....grrrr


K.


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Thats right boys and girls, I'll be climbng with rockshox wednesday, so if anyone else wants to get in on this, do it know while the gettin's (err weather) good!

<=glen=>


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Old Rag in VA for some granite and cracks. I can't wait to put my hands into a nice crack, errr, I mean for a hand jam. This is gonna rock

Erock


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If only I could get out of WPA.
Has the snow melted out east?


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down here in the southern part of the state it finally has, but i dunno how it is north of philly....


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Here in WPA we have a few inches to melt away still, plus all the huge piles.


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I'm heading to Morgan Rocks in a few minutes for you northeasters...
Tomorrow I think I'll try to hit Tilbury, hopefully late morning or early afternoon till dusk....


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Hey there, does anyone want to come down here this coming Saturday and work a new route at Chickies with me. It is a trad route that hits this roof and I am sure no one has done it yet. Of course, we can climb anything there and it will be an all day event. Come on!!!

EROCK


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WOO-HOO

Drew first blood climbing outdoors on Sunday, and led my first trad pitch of the year yesterday! So nice to be outside again...


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OK, here is the deal. For this coming Saturday I am thinking Rock State Park as long as it isn't too much rain for Friday, it is possible I will hit Chickies or Safe Harbor. If anyone wants to come let me know.

Also, for next weekend I am planning a possible trip to Old Rag for Friday and Saturday as long as the weather holds. Does anyone think they want to come. I will lead everything if that is a problem, but anyone and everyone is welcome from Newbie to Oldie. Get at me with a PM or a post, but I would rather a PM. Later ya'll

EROCK


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OK, here is the deal. For this coming Saturday I am thinking Rock State Park as long as it isn't too much rain for Friday, it is possible I will hit Chickies or Safe Harbor. If anyone wants to come let me know.

Also, for next weekend I am planning a possible trip to Old Rag for Friday and Saturday as long as the weather holds. Does anyone think they want to come. I will lead everything if that is a problem, but anyone and everyone is welcome from Newbie to Oldie. Get at me with a PM or a post, but I would rather a PM. Later ya'll

EROCK


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sorry bout the double post


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anyone up for some bouldering at Emmaus around 1ish? Post up here or Pm me if I'm on, or else gimme a call 610-791-5571. Ask for Chris S


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Hi all. I am pretty new to the site and looking for some people to climb with around the Pittsburgh area. I live close to Lynn Run state park and theres tons of stuff to boulder and two half way descent spots for top roping. I dont have any gear for top roping yet, but know how to belay and basic safety. I just lost my job too, so I've got plenty of time to climb, just nobody to climb with. Thanks.


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OK, here is the deal. For this coming Saturday I am thinking Rock State Park as long as it isn't too much rain for Friday, it is possible I will hit Chickies or Safe Harbor. If anyone wants to come let me know.

EROCK

A couple friends and I were talking about going to either Windgap or Cliffhangers on Saturday since the weather looks crappy. If it's nice I'd be up for a roadtrip though... about how far are chickies and safe harbor from the Scranton area?


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when will ppl learn that if they're going to continue to climb at Safe Harbor not to announce it in public RCing forums :roll:


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Looking for a copy of the old PAC guide that has Chickies in it. A copy of the Chickies section will suffice. Let me know.


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well we ppl learn that if they're going to continue to climb at Safe Harbor not to announce it in public RCing forums :roll:

I second this. Climbing is not allowed there, and even if 30 people are there, we shouldn't be posting about it. Keep climbing there and you'll jeopordize access forever there, for all of us, and all the PAC and access Fund's hard work will be in vain!

<=glen=>


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I am headed down to Old Rag late this coming Thursday night, camping out and then climbing all day Friday, and then I am climbing locally all day Saturday. Hope to finally meet some of you. Get back to me to make some plans. 717-495-3652, or just PM me.


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well we ppl learn that if they're going to continue to climb at Safe Harbor not to announce it in public RCing forums :roll:

I second this. Climbing is not allowed there, and even if 30 people are there, we shouldn't be posting about it. Keep climbing there and you'll jeopordize access forever there, for all of us, and all the PAC and access Fund's hard work will be in vain!

<=glen=>

the AF has never done scat for SH. Plus SH will soon become a distant memeory once NFS has thier way with the new RR


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the AF has never done scat for SH. Plus SH will soon become a distant memeory once NFS has thier way with the new RR

After 12? years, there certainly is the appearance of inactivity. However, I am not informed enough to say. What's up with the NFS though?


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I have to agree with Dred on this one. I feel that we have waited long enough for things to be done and respected the supposed effort of others to acquire this land. However, now I feel people are tired of waiting and are ready to use the land. I am not trying nor do I want a long winded debate about this. I simply feel that the only people who have a right to tell me not to climb there are the owners, and that is a risk I am taking. I could understand if we were on some revolutionary brink of obtaining this land, but come on, its been like 10 years. I guess we should just never climb there and wait forever and then never get to use this crag (sarcastic), arguably PA's best sport spot.

If u wanna argue with me please PM me so we don't hijack the post and get away from what it's about (partners and gatherings and constructive stuff)


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So anyone gonna come with me and climb this weekend? Come on, I got a few people headed out, let's do it. Enough talk, get out and climb. Old Rag on Friday and something local on Sat. COME ON :twisted:


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I'm not replying in order to wage a war about this, or to flame anyone or to be flamed, or to hikack the thread. But I want to make this clear to all. Even though the AF has hardly done jackdidly to get the land opened up to climbers, the RR hasn't been helpful either. They have no desire to probably ever let people climb there. But if people continue to climb there, they'll just start cracking down on you harder, and eventually you'll have your gear confiscated and heavilly fined. But hey, that's at everyones own risk. I'm just saying by people continually climbing there, it's just gonna piss the RR off to point where they won't EVER consider letting climbers legally be there. But like I said, hey, that's at everyones discretion.

So yeah we should have a right to Eastern PA's best sport crag, but we don't. And if people are gonna climb there, I'm just gonna go as far as asking that they don't advertise it on the sight.

<=glen=>


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the AF has never done scat for SH. Plus SH will soon become a distant memeory once NFS has thier way with the new RR

After 12? years, there certainly is the appearance of inactivity. However, I am not informed enough to say. What's up with the NFS though?

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I have to agree with Dred on this one. I feel that we have waited long enough for things to be done and respected the supposed effort of others to acquire this land. However, now I feel people are tired of waiting and are ready to use the land. I am not trying nor do I want a long winded debate about this. I simply feel that the only people who have a right to tell me not to climb there are the owners, and that is a risk I am taking. I could understand if we were on some revolutionary brink of obtaining this land, but come on, its been like 10 years. I guess we should just never climb there and wait forever and then never get to use this crag (sarcastic), arguably PA's best sport spot.

All of you appear grossly misinformed, and your spreading of ill truths is further endangering Safe Harbor access. This is not a climber's vs. railroad issue. Climbers are currently a fly on the wall of a bigger issue. We have two options: 1) we can sit on the wall quietly untill things become secure and no one will bother us. 2) we can buzz around in the face of the bigger players, get swatted to pieces and be killed. I am incredibly disappointed that a number of people on rc.com and in the general public are choosing option 2.

If you think nothing is happening to gain access at Safe Harbor, pull your head out of the sand!!!

Many people are working to finish this deal off, including climber representative Alan Martin from the Lancaster Climbing Club. Afain it is not a climber's issue. The issues are the status of several outdated but historically significent bridges, local land owners wishes, and cooperation between townships.

While Norfolk Souther had considered making the rail bed active again, they officially abandoned that plan last year.

Here are two very recent newspaper articles concerning the topic for everyone who seems to think nothing is happening
http://www.lancasteronline.com/articles/5336
http://www.lancasteronline.com/articles/5627

Climbers are currently positioned to gain access when all of the issues are resolved. DO NOT RUIN IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The moral of the story is: Friends don't let friends climb at Safe Harbor

Josh Karns


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Mr. Karns,

Do you have any "Q" Tips? I'm having problems removing the sand from my ears. Thanks for the up-date. My position comes from years of frustration and finally abandoning the idea of ever being able to legally climb at SH, havenít been to SH or CW in years. The most recent info came from one of the FAís of SH & CW, when I was told the NFS was looking to re-open the line. Glad to read they are not.


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Still looking for folks in western Pa. I live almost in Ohio, just off I80.


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Hey all, not that anyone seems all that interested in climbing with me this weekend :cry: , but in case you are I just wanted to let you know that the weather is constantly changing, so I will update my plans accordingly closer to the weekend. Later

EROCK


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my apologies if calling this out was inviting the fly swatters attention...


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Just wanna give a shout out to Glen for taking me to Haycock. Thanks Bro...good times man.


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Hey looking to start climbing just looking for someone to talk to bout the area I am from somerset exit 10 on the PA Turnpike. if anyone is in my area let me know.


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Hey, i live in the Reading area and go climbing regularly at least 2 times a week and was looking for people to show me the ropes because i've only been climbing for about 2 months, but am already pretty decent at it. Let me know if anyone wants to climb, when, and where. Thanks
Jeff


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I'm in Allentown, not too far from you. I'd be willing to show you aspects of Bouldering if you want. I know my ropes but I would feel more comfortable if someone with more experience than I was around to make sure I was teaching everything correctly. What is your schedule like?


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Anyone going to the governer's stable comp that has an extra crashpad that they'd be willing to lend to a cute, but admittedly bad boulderer? :)

I'll be your friend forever.....

K.


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Well Kimmy, I'll have my buddies pad with me, but I dunno what division I'm gonna enter yet. If I'm in yours, you can just join us if you want. We'll see though. I won't know for another week. Missed a great session at Haycock by the way!!

<=glen=>


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Well Kimmy, I'll have my buddies with me, but I dunno what division I'm gonna enter yet. If I'm in yours, you can just join us if you want. We'll see though. I won't know for another week. Missed a great session at Haycock by the way!!

<=glen=>

yeah...Glen kicked me in the eye. You should have seen it. HAHA Dude, just bustin your chops.


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Well Kimmy, I'll have my buddies with me, but I dunno what division I'm gonna enter yet. If I'm in yours, you can just join us if you want. We'll see though. I won't know for another week. Missed a great session at Haycock by the way!!

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It doesn't mater which division you're in. Everyone will be climbing together regardless. Folks will just wander through the boulderfield climbing whatever looks interesting. With all the people there, there will surely be pads below all the classic lines.


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Mar 18, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Well Kimmy, I'll have my buddies with me, but I dunno what division I'm gonna enter yet. If I'm in yours, you can just join us if you want. We'll see though. I won't know for another week. Missed a great session at Haycock by the way!!

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Requoted to say that I meant to say that I'll have my buddies *pad* with me, not my buddies. I think I'll be alone this trip, everyone else is bailing on me, again. But like Josh said, I guess it doesn't matter, since everything is scattered everywhere. Lemme know if you want to climb together Kimmy, I dunno how many people your gonna be with. Also, we're gonna try and hit Haycock again, can you make it? Or you gonna diss us for Ralph Stover again? :lol:

So yeah, I got sketched out on this highball slab and tried to come down gracefully. Didn't happen and I kicked Chris (who was doing a fantastic job of spotting me, unfortuantly for him) in the eye. lol, in retrospect though it was funny.


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