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andypro
Apr 6, 2004, 1:17 PM
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something equally beat to death and perplexing..
WHO KILLED JFK?!?!?!
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crazyjoe234
Apr 6, 2004, 1:20 PM
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WHO KILLED JFK? I think the kitten did it that must be why he's running.
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tedc
Apr 6, 2004, 1:39 PM
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Apr 6, 2004, 1:41 PM
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by androgenously retarded i just meant like one of those retarded people who you can't tell if its a boy or a girl
no offense
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sandbag
Apr 6, 2004, 1:47 PM
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In reply to: free solo--you're alone, you fall, you die. no gear, no nothing. you climb this way from bottom to top. (roped fraid) solo--you're alone, you fall, exactly the same as if you were with a partner except you're a complete loser with no friends and a big boner for yourself for soloing that you can't wait to come down and tell people about how hard you got yourself. dean potter has come no where near free soloing el cap. yes, he has climbed without a rope on moderate pitches, but so what? you die at 30 feet or 300 feet. it's committing, but no where near the commitment of free soloing el cap. dean potter is also a self promoting deusch el cap goes free at 5.12d, not 13, jackass. Certainly people have free soloed at that level. But the level of commitment it would take to free solo 36 pitches with the crux 2/3 of the way up and no going down if you don't feel right is beyond imagination. i can't ever see someone free soloing el cap, but it would be a really hot f--- to be wrong. unless of course you count the east butt of el cap as an el cap route which no one does. people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.
Wouldnt it technically go at 1 pitch since youre only starting and finishing....just a question semantics of no rope and all....\ :P
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jumaringjeff
Apr 6, 2004, 2:10 PM
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In reply to: ...you're a complete loser with no friends and a big boner for yourself for soloing that you can't wait to come down and tell people about how hard you got yourself.... ...dean potter is also a self promoting deusch... ...el cap goes free at 5.12d, not 13, jackass... ...people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.... ...no offense...
'nuff said.
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b_fost
Apr 6, 2004, 2:51 PM
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In reply to: dean potter is also a self promoting deusch
are you kidding?
In reply to: el cap goes free at 5.12d, not 13, jackass.
:lol: :lol:
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b_fost
Apr 6, 2004, 2:53 PM
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In reply to: something equally beat to death and perplexing.. WHO KILLED JFK?!?!?!
the puff of smoke from the grassy knoll :wink:
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shut_up_and_climb
Apr 6, 2004, 3:49 PM
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i got a lot of posts, to bad only one was informative. :roll:
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mreardon
Apr 6, 2004, 9:40 PM
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By my definitions, not anyone else's:
Free-Solo - no rope or gear to help you up the climb or when you fall.
Solo - gear/rope used to help you up or in case of falling.
Free-Climb - gear/rope used only to catch you in case you fall, but all upward momentum is by you.
No one has free-soloed the Nose under these guidelines. Dean Potter and a couple others have Soloed the Nose using gear. Potter was just known for doing it with the fastest time, and for a couple pitches he free-soloed.
Lynn Hill is the only one who Free-Climbed the Nose in a day and on lead, and by her account it goes at 5.13c-5.14a (changing corners pitch being the hardest). Scott Burke Free-Climbed the Nose over the course of 261 days, and did the hardest pitch on toprope which he claims is closer to 5.14b.
It's still open to any challengers :D with the Hubers talking about it according to some accounts.
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bvb
Apr 6, 2004, 9:52 PM
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three pages of posts, to define the difference between soloing and free-soloing.
i would be laughing, if it were not so frightening and pathetic a thought that you people actually climb.
jesus mutherfukkin christ.
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climbsomething
Apr 6, 2004, 10:18 PM
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dlux127
Apr 6, 2004, 11:37 PM
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Damn, what a stupid ass thread. A honest question was asked and it turned into a flame session. I just met dean yesterday in the Valley and he didn't seem like a deuch. Maybe he was mean to you Mandrew because your a chuffer. You got to clean that sand out of your vagina.
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bvb
Apr 7, 2004, 5:10 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: i can't ever see someone free soloing el cap, but it would be a really hot f--- to be wrong.
i think there's a pretty good chance someone will free-solo the west face of el cap one of these days. hell, for all i know it's already been done. i don't pay much attention to that stuff these days. the signal-to-noise ratio is too grim for me to deal with. sort of like this whole fuxxored site.
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hosh
Apr 7, 2004, 5:42 PM
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why is this in the "sport climbing" fourm? I don't understand... Shouldn't it be in Trivia or Trad or Aid?
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mreardon
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In reply to: three pages of posts, to define the difference between soloing and free-soloing. i would be laughing, if it were not so frightening and pathetic a thought that you people actually climb. jesus mutherfukkin christ.
Climb? What's that?
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akclimber
Apr 11, 2004, 2:49 AM
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ahhh, yet another boring flamefest...i was actually interested in the question too...everyone has to be right all the time on this site...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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Alphaboth
Mar 3, 2011, 9:37 PM
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Just my curiousity, but what if Honnold does the nose? I mean it's certainly a stretch, but I'm sure the idea has popped into a few heads. Lynn Hill frees the nose, Sharma climbs realization...continues to do his thing, TC does some crazy single day link-ups on el cap, those Huber brothers fly up the thing, dean potter...just "flies", some folks tick some crazy
14c-d trad stuff, daniel woods is ticking V15s like it's his job...but if honnold does a fs of the nose, I can't think of anything more badass to be done...
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rangerrob
Mar 4, 2011, 5:46 PM
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I can think of a more badass things to be done. How about someone freeing the compressor route without using any of the bolts? How about someone even climbing the west face of Makalu? How about someone climbing the NW face of the Devil's Thumb? These things would be totally badass.
RR
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camhead
Mar 4, 2011, 7:46 PM
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rangerrob wrote: I can think of a more badass things to be done. How about someone freeing the compressor route without using any of the bolts? How about someone even climbing the west face of Makalu? How about someone climbing the NW face of the Devil's Thumb? These things would be totally badass. RR
No, a free solo of the Nose would still be more badass.
It was funny to re-read this thread. I forgot that rc.com has always been full of gumbs and n00bs.
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USnavy
Mar 4, 2011, 10:18 PM
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[quote "radistrad"]Dean Potter has probably done the closest thing to free soloing the Nose route. It goes free at 5.13. He solo aids the really hard parts and free solos the rest. Check out Masters of Stone 5 (I think), you can see him soloing 2500' off of the ground.[/quote]
It goes free at 5.14a/b, duh. The great roof pitch is 5.13c but the changing corners pitch is harder. [:)]
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milesenoell
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USnavy wrote: [quote "radistrad"]Dean Potter has probably done the closest thing to free soloing the Nose route. It goes free at 5.13. He solo aids the really hard parts and free solos the rest. Check out Masters of Stone 5 (I think), you can see him soloing 2500' off of the ground.[/quote] It goes free at 5.14a/b, duh. The great roof pitch is 5.13c but the changing corners pitch is harder. [:)]
NAVY, you got beat to the punch on that response by mreardon by 7 freakin' years! And then you went on to cheesetit the quote! lol
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Tommy Caldwell has also freed the nose in a day. Then he did Freerider as well. Documented in Dosage 4.
Free soloing the Nose is a long way off if it ever gets done. Insecure 13c and 14-...yikes. Freerider will probably get free soloed in the next few years. Just a prediction. It's a full length El Cap route that goes at just 5.12d. With guys like Honnold soloing insecure 5.13 stem corners like those found on Moonlight Buttress it seems likely that Freerider is attainable. But Honnold has publicly stated that soloing Freerider is a big step up from the solos he's done so far and it's not in his plans.
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rangerrob
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Cam I agree that free soloing the Nose is way badass. But I think free soloing the west face of Makalu, (extreme difficulties, way above 8000 meters, and sustained vertical to overhanging terrain) would be so far beyond badass we couldn't even comprehend it.
RR
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