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wyattearp
May 18, 2004, 8:14 AM
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joemor
May 18, 2004, 9:55 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: you guys are all losers..... who cares how its graded... the fact is, someone did this fckn hard line.... ive felt the holds seen the moves and he gets big props in my books for his achievements.... i think you guys need to get out more and stop b---- and moaning on the net all fckn day..... get a life losers! You what crawled up your as$, you refer to everyone in theis thread as a loser, beacuse you have felt the holds, and we havent, geta life Aussie, SUcker!!!! no... i call you loosers because you cant stop for a minute and reconise a huge achievement, instead, you moan about grades and grading and how it was in the good ol days and how it should be ect... if you want to rant all day about the v system start a thread for it.... this isnt about whos man hood is biggest its about someone who has achieved somthing some of the worlds best have not. this problem is in my local area, i know the line and its nails! theres no way me or thousands of other climbers will ever come close to climbing that hard and even to imagine that someone has completed it especially after fred failed is all the more remarkable. meh what ever... keep your little spitting match going, but give respect where its due...
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crux_clipper
May 18, 2004, 10:49 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: you guys are all losers..... who cares how its graded... the fact is, someone did this fckn hard line.... ive felt the holds seen the moves and he gets big props in my books for his achievements.... i think you guys need to get out more and stop b---- and moaning on the net all fckn day..... get a life losers! You what crawled up your as$, you refer to everyone in theis thread as a loser, beacuse you have felt the holds, and we havent, geta life Aussie, SUcker!!!! no... i call you loosers because you cant stop for a minute and reconise a huge achievement, instead, you moan about grades and grading and how it was in the good ol days and how it should be ect... if you want to rant all day about the v system start a thread for it.... this isnt about whos man hood is biggest its about someone who has achieved somthing some of the worlds best have not. this problem is in my local area, i know the line and its nails! theres no way me or thousands of other climbers will ever come close to climbing that hard and even to imagine that someone has completed it especially after fred failed is all the more remarkable. meh what ever... keep your little spitting match going, but give respect where its due... here here joe! full heartedly agree! first, have any of you here linked 2 v14's into each other? no i hear you all say...then you have no educated opinion on how to grade such a problem as the one under discussion. do i hear tall poppy syndrome blowing in the air???? secondly, why is it that everytime someone makes a breakthrough in climbing it is scrutinized and bagged by you lot? ahh, without breakthroughs and new grades claimed, we would all still be climbing 5.7's. theres a fair chance that if someone can climb v15 or 5.14d, that they will eventually find something that is going to be harder then anything they have ever done, hence they grade it v16 or 5.15a. and i can assure you all that, not out of experince, but common sense, that a V12 crux on a single problem, is going to feel a hell of a lot harder after 50 odd v9-v12 moves.
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drrock
May 18, 2004, 12:49 PM
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climb_plastic
May 18, 2004, 5:54 PM
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In reply to: no no no wait...... I think it is really important that we rate this thing that we will never climb...... this is very very important that WE rate this climb..... lets continue Yeah, why don't we just let the professionals who can climb it rate it. Dai is the only one and he rated it V16...you can't dispute it unless you climb it and rate it something else....Nicole can't even dispute it so why would anyone here think they can. Personally I can't tell the difference between a V11 and a V17 or between a 5.14a and a 5.15d because they're all equally impossible for me.
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wyattearp
May 18, 2004, 6:16 PM
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Not all of us are here trying to downplay his achivment, you obviusly must have read like 2responses before you posted your comments, read a little deepere instead of trying to piss uis all off, I have already sadi Dai is the man and congrats on his send, SO Fuck off joemor you just piss me off beacuse you have no idea who you are talking too, Or are you supposed to try and piss off the people who agree with you and hold your same views bumbas$
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stupidboulderer
May 24, 2004, 6:17 AM
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Wow that thread was entertaining. Myaybe this should be the last reply. So much hate, so little time. :D
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darkstar
May 24, 2004, 12:22 PM
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well the thing is that problem is really really hard most likely it is a 16 ... still the actual tunnel to tunnel has not been climbed yet ... one must start on x treme cool to do the entire link up ...in my opininon this will be the greatest boulder problem in the world ... me and klem talked about the link up ....it would be soso sick everone thinks the tunnel to tunnel has been done ...but alas there is more ...........
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wallwombat
May 25, 2004, 7:21 AM
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In reply to: geta life Aussie, SUcker!!!! Easy, Whitetwerp. No need to bring nationality into this, big fella. We can all be civil here, can't we? If not, let me know :twisted: And, yeah, I repeated Jim Holloway's three hard ones. I just didn't see a need to report it. They are wicked hard and not reach dependent at all (I'm 4'9'' ). Definitely B3 if ever the was such a thing. And I love Badass's profile - ' I'm going to be one of the top ten best.....blah, blah,blah ' . No one cares. You sound like a tool. You say either 'top ten' or 'ten best'. Saying both makes you sound like a total nob. Come to think of it, you would sound like a nob anyway. Let me know when you join that select group of elite climbers. I'll sell my gear and buy a kayak. Well done to Dai but I agree with whoever said ''give it a French traverse grade and be done with it''.
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stupidboulderer
May 26, 2004, 6:02 AM
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There aint nothin wrong with kayaks buddy!!!!!! :evil:
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crux_clipper
May 27, 2004, 2:51 AM
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hey darkstar, whats the tunnel to tunnel? i never heard of it.
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darkstar
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well the tunnell to tuuuuuunnnnnnelllll prodj is simple you sit start at the far small side of the cave [ THE ACTUAL OTHER END ] its a very cool tiny well 5 by 5 hole and began to climb on extreme cool an easy v9 and then you finish on eve rave ....or whatever .... about 60 feet of climbin....... maybe thats where dai started ,, i dunno ?...but i think he started on sleepy which is not the very start of the tunnel .... ask the aussies .... i think there are some slightly loose holds between x treme cool and sleepy but it could be done ..... its the obvious line ..PERIOD .... DARK
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badass
Jun 4, 2004, 1:40 AM
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The guy hasn't done enough V15 to be bouldering V16. Fact
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darkstar
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i wish some of the aussies ;in the know; would comment on the tunnel to tunnel prodj starting on x treme cool and finishing on cave rave or eve rave .....dark :roll:
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sixter
Jun 5, 2004, 8:58 PM
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In reply to: The guy hasn't done enough V15 to be bouldering V16. Fact Your profile says you have only done 3 v10s. By your standard quoted above, you haven't done enough v10s to have done a real v11. Quit your beetchin and STFU! Personally I think anyone finishing a project is great whatever level they climb at. Congrats to Dai is about all I can say about it.
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climb_plastic
Jun 5, 2004, 10:12 PM
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In reply to: The guy hasn't done enough V15 to be bouldering V16. Fact Fact is he just did one.
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rhu
Jun 6, 2004, 12:30 AM
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badass wrote: blah blah blah
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wyattearp
Jun 6, 2004, 1:47 AM
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BADASS BLOWS :evil: :evil: :evil: BADASS BLOWS :evil: :evil: :evil: BADASS BLOWS :evil: :evil: :evil: BADASS BLOWS :evil: :evil: :evil:
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ramylson
Jun 8, 2004, 2:59 PM
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Let's keep this thread on track please..
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badass
Jun 8, 2004, 3:42 PM
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If Dai sends out 3 legitimate V15's then I would still say he is climbing routes not bouldering problems. Look at the definition in itself Boulder PROBLEM. Like math it is something that should have to be solved. Linking 60 moves of V3 doesn't make it a boulderproblem unless he had to solve the V3 crux. hehe Oh and you should be ashamed to taint the good name of a man like Wyatt Earp. I doubt a man of his character would resort to simple name calling. At least put some effort into your jealous insults.
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badass
Jun 8, 2004, 3:45 PM
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And for the rest of you. Most of you are so far from V16 you can't even understand what it is. Your probobly the same people that chipped Dreamtime to bring it to your level.
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bandycoot
Jun 8, 2004, 4:32 PM
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Someone move this thread to the chosspile where it belongs!
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wyattearp
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Badass you have got to be one of the biggest fools I have ever met! Why you sucha grade nazi, Dai could flash all your projects in his sleep, with his left hand tied to his head, Give me a break man! U obviously just like flame wars and have no respect for the world best climbers, hey who cares if you can climb v10, hell 12 year old kids can flash V10, so get off your mighty horse and step back into the real world, you lifeless fOOL :D :D :D :D :D
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badass
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Is it roadrage or rockrage :lol:
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climb_plastic
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In reply to: Most of you are so far from V16 you can't even understand what it is. Most of us? I think that would be all of us except you because you claim you did a v11. So why don't you tell us what you would rate it.
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