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polarwid
Mar 3, 2005, 10:04 PM
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"You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here!"
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shakylegs
Mar 3, 2005, 10:22 PM
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In reply to: "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here!"
I don't know. What was the general consensus when bumblie posted the same thing over a fucking week ago!
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j_ung
Mar 3, 2005, 10:22 PM
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Ugh. Which Democrat moron said it?
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republiclimber
Mar 3, 2005, 10:24 PM
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it is completely racist, luckily it was a democrat who said it, so nobody is going to get in trouble.
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iltripp
Mar 3, 2005, 11:08 PM
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Funny how conservatives will complain about political correctness unless it's a democrat who wasn't being PC.
It's not racist... not pc, but not racist.
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theflyingsquirrel
Mar 4, 2005, 12:45 AM
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i got a little chuckle out of it... i mean UH HUMMMMMM!!! what insensitive heartless cold person could say such a thing about our noble and honorable hotel staff?!!!
lighten up people wheres the love :wink:
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reno
Mar 4, 2005, 12:53 AM
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In my opinion, the comment is racially insensitive, regardless of who (whom?) said it.
I get so sick of such drawing of race lines... Black, White, Brown, Yellow...
What ever happend to "People"???
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ctardi
Mar 4, 2005, 4:25 AM
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Just read these lyrics from avenue q...
Princeton = Classic American
Kate Monster = Female pupet
Gary = Gary Coleman
Other two = Gay guys.
Christmas Eve = Japanese lady.
Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?
Kate Monster:
Sure!
Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?
Kate Monster:
Uh huh.
Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.
Kate Monster:
Right.
Princeton:
You're both Monsters.
Kate Monster:
Yeah.
Princeton:
Are you two related?
Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!
Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!
Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?
Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.
Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.
Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!
Kate Monster:
What do you mean?
Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?
Kate Monster:
What about it?
Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?
Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-
Princeton:
You see?!
You're a little bit racist.
Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.
Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...
Princeton:
But I guess it's true.
Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think
Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.
Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -
Kate Monster:
No!
Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!
Kate Monster:
Right!
Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!
Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.
Kate Monster:
Okay!
Princeton:
There's a plan going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...
Kate Monster:
And a black guy!
Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?
Kate Monster:
Uh...
Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!
Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.
Gary Coleman:
I don't.
Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?
Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!
Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?
Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.
Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.
Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.
Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.
Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.
Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -
All right!
Kate Monster:
All right!
Princeton:
All right!
Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white
All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.
Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.
Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!
Princeton:
Who?
Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.
Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.
Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.
Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.
Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-
Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!
Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?
Gary Coleman:
Racism!
Brian:
Cool.
Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!
Princeton:
What's that mean?
Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?
Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.
Brian:
I'm not!
Princeton:
Oh no?
Brian:
Nope!
How many Oriental wives
Have you got?
Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!
Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!
Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!
Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.
Christmas Eve:
And I love you.
Brian:
But you're racist, too.
Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!
Princeton:
Me too!
Kate Monster:
Me too!
Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!
All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!
Christmas Eve:
Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!
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bumblie
Mar 4, 2005, 1:19 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here!" I don't know. What was the general consensus when bumblie posted the same thing over a f---ing week ago!
The old grey matter must be decaying because I can only recall posting it yesterday. :wink:
I saw some black Democrat muckity-muck talking on TV about the Dean statement. He basically said it all comes down to who said it. If the speaker is considered an ally of blacks (generally speaking), then any racially insensitive remarks are treated as "off-color" jokes. If the speaker is not an ally, then righteous indignation will be forthcoming and justifiably so.
The race card in politics is nothing more than a weapon to bludgeon your opponent with. As a result, the chance of honest debate on race issues is unlikely.
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tradman
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That's a difficult one to quantify; although I could technically be considered an "ally" of black people on the basis that I have two adopted brothers who are black, I would still consider those comments a bit close to the bone for me to make.
If it was a black person who made the comments, fine. But everyone else - nah.
Interestingly, my brother Tim has as much of a problem with black stereotyping as white - he once met a black american in a bar, who on finding he was scottish, launched into a stream of black brotherhood speil, concluding with the assertion that Tim was his "brotha". Tim replied, "You're not my brother, I've met him. Tall guy, white. You don't look anything like him and you're definitely not my brother, so f*ck off."
:wink:
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dookie
Mar 4, 2005, 1:37 PM
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it was certainly a stupid thing to say, but racist?
The hotel staff is probably predomantly colored/minority.
Truth be told, you don't see a lot of crackers working in hotels other than in positions of customer service or mgt..., so is saying something that's true considered racist? ;) It's a toughy... :lol:
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bumblie
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If Scott McClellan was addressing a roomful of white Republicans and said "The only was to make this crowd represent a crosssection of America would be to bring in the hotel staff", how do you think the Democratic leadership and the mainstream press would respond?
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bumblie
Mar 4, 2005, 2:42 PM
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In reply to: I absolutely agree with you.
I've been meaning to change my signature.
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j_ung
Mar 4, 2005, 2:50 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I absolutely agree with you. I've been meaning to change my signature.
I'll out you for that whole Stone Mountain goat thing.
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bumblie
Mar 4, 2005, 3:04 PM
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They said it was a she!!! And that the stench was normal!
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allan_thomson
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It's not a racist comment at all, it's more a comment on the fact that whoever is making it feels that there are not enough Black people represented in the Republican National Committee. Why on earth does the minute someone mentions a colour or race specifically in a commnet does everyone assume they're being racist.
Of course I'm in the British Isles, so not fully aware of the whole history of the comment. But from what I see here, that's how I'd read it, not as being racist, but as criticising the committee for not being representitive of society as a whole.
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j_ung
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My work here is done.
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vertical_reality
Mar 4, 2005, 4:31 PM
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Is this a racist comment?
"You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had half an NBA team in here!"
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j_ung
Mar 4, 2005, 4:33 PM
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In reply to: Is this a racist comment? "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had half an NBA team in here!"
Sounds about the same as the other one.
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vertical_reality
Mar 4, 2005, 7:41 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Is this a racist comment? "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had half an NBA team in here!" Sounds about the same as the other one.
How is that racist?
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bumblie
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Is this a racist comment? "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had half an NBA team in here!" Sounds about the same as the other one. How is that racist?
Think inside the box. :wink:
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In reply to: If it was a black person who made the comments, fine. But everyone else - nah.
So your brother is allowed to make jokes about issues of demographics and you're not?? :roll: Is it wrong to believe that perhaps whites, too, can be cognizant of racial and social disparities and commenting on such, still not be racist??
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