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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 1:03 AM
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About smoking and climbing. I usually smoke after climbing ( when I can ) but after reading that article I felt curious about experimenting it. So I rolled a fat one and smoked it just before entering my gym on sat Afternoon. I decided to boulder so I would probably had a more isolated experience. I was able to focus on the moves a little better and isolate myself from the rest of the people / gym, getting in a more relaxed state. On the other hand I did not felt as "competitive" as usual, a group of friend was trying a problem, but instead of joining them I sterted working another one, didn't felt like "competing" on the same one they were doing. On the other hand last time I tried the same thing ( not as an experiment, by chance) and I was leading, I remembered I was on lead at the 3rd clip, before that I was just climbing, that is good in a way, I was focused, bad in another, I was unsafe. You ever tried? I'll like to try again but outdoor on lead , this time I'll try to remember to clip :) BTW, the pictures on Alpinist X are awesome as usual.
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tattooed_climber
Mar 15, 2005, 1:08 AM
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me and my partner keep that shit for bouldering and TRing....or after the climb.....but i totally know what you mean....3 beers and a late night bouldering session on my woodie is great....relaxing, control, focus....then a slamb my head into a massive roof jug... :roll: :shock: ...
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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 1:12 AM
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LOL! yes. :oops:
In reply to: me and my partner keep that s--- for bouldering and TRing....or after the climb.....but i totally know what you mean....3 beers and a late night bouldering session on my woodie is great....relaxing, control, focus.... then a slamb my head into a massive roof jug... :roll: :shock: ...
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maculated
Mar 15, 2005, 1:25 AM
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In reply to: You ever tried? I'll like to try again but outdoor on lead , this time I'll try to remember to clip :) I am totally disturbed by your post. It's one thing to be a functioning smoker who can do stuff without much handicap, and they know so because they've been smoking a long time, but it's quite another to experiment to see what happens and then not feel so weird about the fact that (a) you didn't clip the bolts and (b) your belayer didn't raise holy hell when you did this. "Loda Bohl" was an admitted user, and from what I gather about the article, a pretty elite climber. I may be showing ignorance by not knowing who he is, but the fact remains, and he said it, too - their safety was pretty high because they'd been climbing so long, they were naturally inclined to do what needed to be done to climb safely. It was part of habit. I know you've been climbing a long time, so I wonder what that means. If you weren't making clips, you should NOT have been doing this. So you are either full of shit, or you need to keep your belayer sober, at the very least. ::shudder::
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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 1:31 AM
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Relax Mac. He didn't even know I was (slightly) stoned. I've been climbing AND smoking for roughly 20 years (not necessarily together), plus I was in the gym 3 bolts means maybe 10 feet. why you feel the right to lecture me? Can't you just give your opinion about the issue (climbing stoned)?
In reply to: In reply to: You ever tried? I'll like to try again but outdoor on lead , this time I'll try to remember to clip :) I am totally disturbed by your post. It's one thing to be a functioning smoker who can do stuff without much handicap, and they know so because they've been smoking a long time, but it's quite another to experiment to see what happens and then not feel so weird about the fact that (a) you didn't clip the bolts and (b) your belayer didn't raise holy hell when you did this. "Loda Bohl" was an admitted user, and from what I gather about the article, a pretty elite climber. I may be showing ignorance by not knowing who he is, but the fact remains, and he said it, too - their safety was pretty high because they'd been climbing so long, they were naturally inclined to do what needed to be done to climb safely. If you weren't making clips, you should NOT have been doing this. So you are either full of s---, or you need to keep your belayer sober, at the very least. ::shudder::
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8flood8
Mar 15, 2005, 1:36 AM
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i think her opinion was that she is concerned with your lack of concern of safety, at least the inferred lack of concern, as evidenced in your post. but... i speak for myself.
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maculated
Mar 15, 2005, 1:36 AM
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I know you've been climbing a long time, but I've seen a ton of bad shit in my day because people thought it would be cool to climb high or drunk . . . it's the mom in me. The fact that you went out and did it indicates to me that probably a lot more stupid, less experienced climbers will be doing it too. Slightly stoned caused you to forget to clip? Your partner still didn't mind you skipping them?
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slobmonster
Mar 15, 2005, 2:20 AM
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In reply to: About smoking and climbing. I usually smoke after climbing ( when I can ) but after reading that article I felt curious about experimenting it. So I rolled a fat one and smoked it just before entering my gym on sat Afternoon. I'm just rolling with a sort of mortified glee that it took a tongue-in-cheek, thoroughly sarcastic "published" "experiment" to give you the idea. It is a well-known FACT that you can climb anything within twenty minutes of pounding 2 beers, a shot of espresso, and some green to round it all out. The funniest part of the article in question is that the author can never use the byline in his resume.
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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 5:08 PM
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Well it was not the first time ever, I did it outdoor too, but not as an "experiment" infact outdoor you "sober up" almost immediately because of the concentration required and the potential danger. Indoor of course I was more able to focus on the effects, since the risck was close to zero. An eventual fall from 10 feet over a heavily padded floor was not a real concern. Anybody tried hallucinogens? :lol: Hey Mac, I am planning my next experiment, it will involve shrooms and soloing :)
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edge
Mar 15, 2005, 5:38 PM
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In reply to: Anybody tried hallucinogens? :lol: Yes, actually, I have. Aid climbing, mostly. In my climbing hay day, I routinely climbed stoned, in fact almost all of the time, to the point where it was odd to climb not stoned. I toked on my first big wall, prior to my first 5.11 lead, and every other place you could imagine. The first time that I went to climb the classic Cathedral Ledge 5.9 "Diedre," my partner and I both backed off of the crux on the second pitch. We went back to the car, smoked a couple bowls, had a few brewskies, and I told him that I could get it now. We went back, I cruised the crux pitch, and we finished the five pitches in no time. As I belayed him up the final 5.9 handcrack, I wondered why he wasn't chalking up. When he arrived on top I found out the answer when he produced a can of Heineken from his chalk bag. Yumadoodles!
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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 5:46 PM
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Ahhhh Thanks man, I feel at home again, for a moment I thought I was on the wrong site. Enough with the delf-righteous and the bible thumping ( especially when they came together) :lol:
In reply to: In reply to: Anybody tried hallucinogens? :lol: Yes, actually, I have. Aid climbing, mostly. In my climbing hay day, I routinely climbed stoned, in fact almost all of the time, to the point where it was odd to climb not stoned. I toked on my first big wall, prior to my first 5.11 lead, and every other place you could imagine. The first time that I went to climb the classic Cathedral Ledge 5.9 "Diedre," my partner and I both backed off of the crux on the second pitch. We went back to the car, smoked a couple bowls, had a few brewskies, and I told him that I could get it now. We went back, I cruised the crux pitch, and we finished the five pitches in no time. As I belayed him up the final 5.9 handcrack, I wondered why he wasn't chalking up. When he arrived on top I found out the answer when he produced a can of Heineken from his chalk bag. Yumadoodles!
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bumblie
Mar 15, 2005, 6:15 PM
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In reply to: Ahhhh Thanks man, I feel at home again, for a moment I thought I was on the wrong site. Enough with the delf-righteous and the bible thumping ( especially when they came together) :lol: You're overlooking the obvious differences. In edge's case, we have a young stoner, who was also a climber, enjoying these interests together. In your case, we have a middle-aged guy "experimenting" with pot, like a stupid teenager. That you would completely space the first two clips, says plenty. Your trip report reminded me of the last thing a redneck says...
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slablizard
Mar 15, 2005, 6:50 PM
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LOL :lol: Bumblie, I "experimented" back in the '80. You blubbing pot of beans. Are you always in a bad mood ? you're right on the age thou, I'll be 40 in November, definitely halfway my tour of the planet here. Feeling great thou. Actually a lot better than...let's say 10 years ago. How old are you? and yeeaahhhhhhduuuuudddeeeee I spaced for almost ten feet in a gym...WHOAAA what a trip! :roll: Or you got offended by the bible thumping self-righteous part? Hey nothing personal, I just work here :)
In reply to: In reply to: Ahhhh Thanks man, I feel at home again, for a moment I thought I was on the wrong site. Enough with the delf-righteous and the bible thumping ( especially when they came together) :lol: You're overlooking the obvious differences. In edge's case, we have a young stoner, who was also a climber, enjoying these interests together. In your case, we have a middle-aged guy "experimenting" with pot, like a stupid teenager. That you would completely space the first two clips, says plenty. Your trip report reminded me of the last thing a redneck says...
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j_ung
Mar 15, 2005, 7:45 PM
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I used to love to get high and climb trad. Did it pretty much every time for a while, but then I never really climbed all that hard in those days. Now I just don't feel comfortable doing it, so I don't. Pot makes me two things: lazy and hungry and neither is conducive to hard climbing. No mas.
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