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k9rocko


Jun 26, 2002, 10:21 PM
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I don't know all the details.... because this was passed word of mouth.

Quote:I was out climbing when another climber told me that their packs were routed, and close to 1,000.00 US of Trad gear was stolen from the group.

Turns out I was wrong in the value of the rack stolen, it was more like $200.00-$300.00 US. The first story made it sound like it was a full trad rack. Turns out it was some passive gear and quickdraws.

This allegedly occured at the base of Tingey's Terror / Satan's Corner. It is likely these were climbers. A significant scramble is required to gain the base of the route. For the most part... this area is rarely frequented by other than climbers.

Possibly, the victim could provide a description of the gear? Maybe as climbers, we can refuse to buy gear from other than gear shops... In order to make it work (ie. make stolen gear worthless), we all have to do it...

What about laser engraving... I certainly think gear manufacturers would benefit from uniquely / permanently identifying their gear? Just a thought... and please do not leave anything for these unscrupulous bastards...

K9

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Someone might have picked it up, because they thought someone might have lost it. I know its not your pack but if you can talk to these people whos packs were jacked as them, and tell everyone you know what color the pack was and what kind of gear. Tell Put up signs or something like lost backpack and trad gear, at your local gear shop. They really cant use it if someone see's them with it. If they take the pack out for a day of climbing and someone sees them with the pack, there done. So dont give up just let. Later, -wEs-

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No... according to him, only good stuff was missing...


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Put the description of the stollen gear on this post and I will look for it as I am climbing in the local area 2-3 times per week. I know the area where the pack was stollen and most climbers leave their stuff there to do thier routes. I really doubt some one thought it was lost. It was just a bunch of thieving B**T**DS, John

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I've often thought of runnin a cable and locking all of my cams togeather through their sling. I know thay can cut the lock and cable, but perhaps it may be a deterant!

People who steal suck, they need to spend some time in jail!

Does any one have any ideas on how we can better protect our precious gear.

Often times we'll leave the extra in the car, but that is not really any safer...
I thought of the lock, but that is a royal pain, but its seems better than loosing my rack.

Sorry to hear about the loss


ratstar


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Paint it all pink then they wont want it and if they do still steal it you can easily identify them.


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I think the last thing the bastards have to worry about is jail if someone caught them stealing their gear! It would be sad, but not that sad to see them tumble down the slabs under tingey's.

I've heard of climbing gear showing up in pawn shops, it may be worth while to make a run down State Street and do a quick check to see if maybe they pawned it. Also, check and see if the person was stupid and put it up for sale on one of the gear boards at one of the shops or even online somewhere.

Leaving extra gear in the car is risky, but at least there is a steady flow of people and a locked car to deal with to get at the it. I've been leaving my pack at the base of LCC climbs for years and never had anything stolen, but I hear about it happening every season.

I am sorry for those of you who lost gear. Have you talked to your insurance company, maybe it's covered on your policy.


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Jun 28, 2002, 7:31 PM
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that sucks


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I got a few hundred dollars in gear stollen right out of my car in my own driveway! Good thing is that home owners insurance covered it... bad news is the 200 deductible. You might want to keep an eye on ebay, I see alot of gear on there being sold by people who say: I'm not quite sure what this stuff is for, but I think its for rock climbing....
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I thought Utah was full of Mormons. Now I know the truth: there are Sordinians afoot.


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Get a U-lock by Kryptonite. It's meant as a bike lock but the things are damn near indestructable. You can put all your nuts, hexs & cams on it. To get the gear off they'll have to destroy the gear itself.


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Its not just climbing gear any more. I just had an $800 montain bike lifted from right in front of the U of U administration building. Bastards cut the cable and just rode away in broad daylight. I think it s the damned drinking laws. If it was easier to get actual alcohol out here people wouldn't have to turn into drug addicts and steal other peoples hard earned s--- in order to feed their habit. I've been to all of the pawn shops on State street. You SLC climbers know how big a chore that is. No climbing gear, but tons of stolen mountian bikes. You can get a $2000 lefty down there for eight hundred bucks. Couldn't find my bike, but I'm still lookin'. If you want me to check on your stuff while I'm at it just post what you've lost on this thread. If i find the culprits I think i'm gonna tear out their liver with my teeth.


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Just like my friends that lost around 2,500 at the New, or should I say, Newly ripped off!

Steve

Horrible isn't it? We can't even trust our own "kind" any more.


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Does this mean that we're going to have to haul ALL of our gear up with us, big wall style, even for climbs that are just a few pitches? I might start drivingto crags farther south more often if this is the case.


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I think I'll just get a big mean dog and tie him to my pack at the base.... Or tether my 9mm to my harness


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    People leave their packs there John???? Not what you told me before i hauled a bunch of useless s*it up tingley's...hehe, still complaining!!


k9rocko


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Turns out I was wrong in the value of the rack stolen, it was more like $200.00-$300.00 US. The first story made it sound like it was a full trad rack. Turns out it was some passive gear and quickdraws.

I have an idea to prevent these cruds from profiting.... we all need to permanently mark, and photograph our gear. I definitely should do this, since I have all the toys.

That way, if it turns up and we recognize the gear on some creep.... he has 3 seconds to explain..... or we tie him off mid pitch, and call the gear's original owner.

DONT BUY USED GEAR... Aside from the fact it could be damaged, it might have bad Karma...


biggernhell


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Damn straight k9. Buying gear that is potentialy stolen is seriously bad JuJu. This said, I'm cruisin' the pawn shops again over the next two days in search of my bike. If anyone wants me to keep an eye out for their stuff just let me know. I'll post any climbing gear I see anyway, since any gear in a pawn is likely to be stolen, but If I get your specifics beforehand it will help a great deal.


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No way I would climb over stolen gear, talk about bad karma. I had 12 draws ripped of a sport route that I left up there (in my local area) one night. Some of them were mank And I hope the bastards take a huge scream on one(ps if you just started climbing, A sport route with all the draws hanging is not bootie. especially if you have to hike to the top and rap down to steal it)


threefox


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In reference to how do we protect our stuff:
Buy a dog and train him well. Then again I tried this and they are both easily distracted.

I remember leaving gear and not really being worried about it being gone when I came back the next day. Now I won't leave my chalk bag unattended at the local crag.

I guess it would be easy to blame "the new generation" but we all know that's a shotgun solution to a small percetage of bad guys.

Sorry for the loss wish there was an answer to this age old problem.

Adam.......


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