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rico
Jun 7, 2002, 6:44 AM
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REIHOLD MESSNER
THE BIGGEST, THE BEST!!
FOR EVER!!!!
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couloir
Jun 7, 2002, 7:10 AM
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I'm with crack addict. I can't believe nobody mentioned Wolfgang Gullich. He was far and away the most talented climber ever.
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elvislegs
Jun 7, 2002, 7:51 AM
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One more vote for Lowe
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psych
Jun 7, 2002, 8:17 AM
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What about Chuck Pratt? I mean, I know just about jack squat about historical climbing and the feats that put the sport on the map, except for a few articles in the usual magazines.
But from what I read, he was certainly a pioneer...correct me if I'm wrong of course.
Mike...
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biggernhell
Jun 10, 2002, 1:51 PM
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This should be simple. As far as life time achievements go its a lock between Messner and Alex Lowe. But then again, I hate to forget Mugs Stump. They're all pretty much finished though. That is unless Rienhold stages the worlds greatest come back. In the land of the living things are a bit more tricky. How do you vote against the Hubbers? Then again Dean Potter looks to be as good in the mountains as he is in the Valley. But, you can't count out burgeoning careers like those of Steve House And that Garabotti guy whose first name I can't spell. Ok maybe not so simple
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climbsomething
Jun 10, 2002, 2:21 PM
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Climbing has so many different styles, facets, methods, etc etc etc that it would be tough (daresay impossible) to find any person who is just as accomplished in ice as sport as trad as bouldering as aid as big walls as mountaineering as mixed as blah blah blah... I think that sentiment has been echoed here already
So, when I think "legendary climber" I think Lynn Hill. Tiny ladies who crank are COOL
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treyr
Jun 10, 2002, 2:32 PM
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I think Steve House or Tommy Caldwell for all around.
Best sport is definitely sharma
Trob
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bradhill
Jun 10, 2002, 2:55 PM
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I think an important part of best all-around climber should also be best all-over climber. The well traveled climbers who have done great things in all the world's great ranges and all the conditions found throughout are pretty amazing. It's a testament to the climber's intelligence, adaptability, resourcefulness and love of all the world's mountains as well as to their technical skill.
On those grounds, I'd say Lowe, Anker, the Hubers and Messner lead the pack, although within her area Lynne Hill has been just about everywhere there is to free climb, including developing entire new ranges and areas like Madagascar.
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bigwalling
Jun 16, 2002, 8:15 PM
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Eric Kohl is pretty cool. He has done so many routes. Most of those things are A4 and up too.
Walt Shipley also a great climber.
Xavier Bongard was really awsome. Great trango tower with John M. He also soloed Jolly Roger and Sea of Dreams and a bunch of other stuff.
Alex Lowe was unbeleivable!
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jhwnewengland
Jun 16, 2002, 8:36 PM
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Lynn Hill (with Beth Rodden) did "Bravo Les Filles" in Madagascar. It's something like 2,000 feet, A0 and 5.13 free pitches. That's big wall...
My vote goes to Alex Lowe, but Lynn Hill is up there.
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jhwnewengland
Jun 16, 2002, 8:37 PM
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jeez, I guess Lynn Hill and Alex Lowe have been mentioned about 6,000 times in this thread. I didn't realize this thing had so many posts already.
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beyond_gravity
Jun 16, 2002, 9:17 PM
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Lynn Hill? No way, i've done more Ice climbing and Alpine climbing then she has! I'd votye for Conrad Anker
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malachi
Jun 24, 2002, 6:13 PM
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among all around climbers - at the end of the day, if you're talking modern times, it probably comes down to Lowe vs Messner. but there are a few other candidates that have been left out and should be mentioned. in particular i would say Stevie Haston deserves consideration as does Dean Potter. finally, i agree that JC Lafaille deserves more consideration than currently given. his track record makes him the only climber worth considering as a dark horse to challenge Lowe and Messner. in fact, he gets my vote (for what it's worth).
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deafclimber
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what is about todd skinner ? just wonder.... he is my good friend's friend. i would like to meet him someday.
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polarwid
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So far, by mention in the post...
(WITH MORE THAN ONE MENTION)
we have--------
ALEX LOWE---18
REINHOLD MESSNER---14
LYNN HILL---12
HUBERS---8
WOLFGANG GULLICH---4
ANKER, BONATTI, BRIDWELL, LAFAILLE and POTTER---3
BECKEY, BUHL, CHILD, CROFT, GRAHAM, HOUSE, KOR, ROBBINS and WHYMPER---2
With one vote each are---BONGARD, BONINGTON, BOUCHARD, DONINI, HARDING, HUMAR, KARO, KAUK, KHAN, KOHL, NICOLE, PRATT, REBUFFAT, SHIPLEY, SKINNER and WEISSNER.
See if we can add to or get a decisive choice here for ALL-AROUND greatest climber ever!!!
Looks like Alex Lowe has taken a big lead, with Messner jumping up into second. Lynn Hill is holding onto third, can the Huber brothers catch her? Keep voting and we will find out!!!
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tradgirl
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Well, quite frankly... on the days that I acheive a personal best, the best all around climber in my mind is.......ME!!!!!!
Laurie
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indiesummit
Jul 3, 2002, 2:11 PM
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That's tuphph (like phat), vote(s) go to:
- Dean Potter (done everything BUT the obligatory Himalayan slogs and sufferfests)
- The Hubers (pretty much like two Dean Potters, though I'm not sure what they're record is with bouldering)
- Jimmy Dunn (he's dunn it all
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rollingstone
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I think it should be noted that Spank-Spank is spelled with 5 letters, just like Crack, which is what Spank must be on to assert that Mountaineering isn't real climbing.
Readers should note the question asked best all-around climber, and many responses suggest people who are very proficient technically, but do not or have not done much in all venues. The question also begs knowledge of the kinds of gear available to a climber in his/her period. While the Hubers are certainly among the best of current climbers, a sense of history would suggest that one consider who was the best for his/her era.
Golden Age: Edward Whymper
Early 20th century: Emil Solleder (spelling may be incorrect)
Don't overlook Giusto Gervassuti...
No one has mentioned Walter Bonnaiti!!
(1st ascent of Petite Dru W. Face solo, 1st ascent Gasherbrum IV, he got screwed out of 1st ascent of K2, new route, in winter, solo, N. Face Matterhorn to cap his career...)
Since the 60s, one might wish to consider Layton Kor, Royal Robbins, Yvon Chouinard, Charlie Porter (not just a Yosemite wall climber, CP did the first solo of the Cassin Ridge on Denali in Alaska).
I could go on, but I think it might be better to consider who did the most with the technology available to them at the time??
Remember, all roads in North America anyway always lead to Fred Beckey.
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helmut
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What about Fab Five Freddy? He climbs 5.5d, WI2-, A1+, M1, and NE 2 onsight.
Messner is the man!!
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marcel
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There is a lot of great climbers listed in the above post. However, I don't see Steve Swenson of Seattle listed. So, I'll put a vote in for him. Not many poeple outside the elite climber core have heard of Swenson because he doesn’t seek publicity, but look at all his accomplishments and you can’t help be impressed.
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cygnus
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Messner and Lowe
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chadplusplus
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I've also got to go with Tomaz Humar. Sick, sick, sick. He does all the hardest routes.... solo. BTW, that ascent of reticulant(sp?) wall was only his second or third aid climb.
I may be a little hazy on the details right now, but I read an article on him a few months ago and was just in awe for weeks.
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wildtrail
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I'm with Jody on this one.
Alex Lowe
May he climb in our hearts forever!
Steve
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overlord
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messner + alex
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