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ratstar
Sep 7, 2001, 4:52 PM
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Does anyone do alot of yoga to help with their climbing I have recently started Yoga and have found that it helps with my control, stretching, strength and breathing.
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paulc
Sep 7, 2001, 5:24 PM
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While I don't do yoga yet, I will be starting soon. Other than that I know of at least 1/2 dozen climbers at the gym that I climb at that do yoga, including a couple of instructors. It is very good for breathing control and depending on the type of yoga can also help with flexibilty, core strength and strength in general. Yoga is good, go rebel alliance...... Oops, mind wandered.
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spider_woman
Sep 8, 2001, 4:15 AM
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Yoga helps a lot I think. Flexibility is a bonus on the rocks, and mental stability it brings is great. I use it some. But something good I have found to help as part of my yoga workout is the split. Just sitting in a split or spread for about 2-3 mins. helps the leg flexibility a ton.
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talons05
Sep 8, 2001, 4:23 AM
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Flexibility and strength are key. So is control. Both Yoga and Martial Arts are wonderful tools to improve your technique and strength
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paulc
Sep 8, 2001, 6:02 AM
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Zoo; You ever do a trad lead at your limit where you are just in control? Ever notice that you tense up in a crux? Ever blow a foothold because you weren't in control enough? Ever not be able to get to that great highstep to make the move? If not then good on you, if so then don't knock yoga (or MA or whatever). It is a well known fact in mainstream sports that mental prep and coolness can be a major performance enhancer. Plus no one even brought up bouldering. While this does apply to all types of climbing the mental side of things is much more usefull for longer, hard routes. Paul
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spider_woman
Sep 8, 2001, 4:56 PM
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Thanks Paul.
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talons05
Sep 9, 2001, 12:31 AM
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A calm mind thinks more clearly and allows you to make better decisions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect you have not done much outside the realm of bouldering. Sometimes you have to exceed the physical aspects. Sometimes you have to go beyond the physical pain and fatique. In order to do this, your mind, not your body, must be in control. When you can get to this level of focus and control, you will be amazed at the routes you are able to free.
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paulc
Sep 9, 2001, 1:28 AM
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Well, it up to everyone to determine in their own mind what helps them climb better. If you don't think that yoga can help you, which sounds presumptous since it sounds like you haven't tried it, then that is up to you. Other people think differently. On a hard lead a significant portion of the climb is mental, like focusing on the moves not the fall, staying cool and relaxed to save energy. No I don't start chanting at the bottom of a climb, but you know who does??? Chris Sharma. He has been known to do relaxation exercises at the base of climbs and boulder problems. I think that he meditated before he sent slashface (Hueco Tanks, V14). So if you can send 14 then don't worry about things that could help your climbing, if not then an open mind could help you break though whatever level you are at now. Your choice. I'm not trying to say that Yoga or MA is for everyone, but disiplines of that nature have decided advantages. Read "Climb 5.12" by Horst and see how much he talks about mental prep and things like that. Paul
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ratstar
Sep 10, 2001, 4:39 PM
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You can even try it at home. Online you can take classes sure oyu dont get the full effect but if you dont have alot of money to take classes
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paulc
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Hey man, cool out. If you don't want to do yoga then thats fine, but if other people (and there seem to be a few) think that is helpful then don't harsh their vibe. Just a question for you. Have you ever tried yoga?? If not don't you think that you are speaking from a inexperienced position?? And don't pull that "I haven't tried jumping off a bridge (or whatever) but I know I wouldn't like it" crap, that's just a cop out. In response to your comments regarding scientology, I suppose you could do that if you were a raving loonie, but yoga doesn't involve brainwashing, if you aren't into the sprititual aspects of yoga (which I'm not into) then you can take power yoga classes which focus only on the physical aspects of the discipline. Since it seems that you know a little bit about scientology, have you checked operation clambake?? Very interesting discussion on scientology. If you want to smoke a big fat reefer before climbing go nuts. I didn't find that it helped my climbing at all, but hey if it works for you, all I can say is toke hard dude. I think you are avoiding the main focus of the topic with all your rebuttals, if you have direct experience to support your position then bring it on. Paul
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andy_lemon
Sep 14, 2001, 6:21 PM
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Quote: "He also smokes pot before climbing, so if I smoke a real lot of pot will I be able to send Realization?" No, probably not. If you were good enough to climb a 5.15a then I would have to say you should have some routes posted on this site in which you were the FA. But I can tell from your uninformative profile that you have not listed any routes in which you were the FA.
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talons05
Sep 14, 2001, 6:26 PM
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Ouch! Take it easy there, lemon. You're right, though: if you can climb 5.15 on pot, then you are going to climb 5.15 anyway.
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ratstar
Sep 14, 2001, 11:24 PM
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thanks paulc. I think that until you try something you shouldnt talk smack about it. I was simply asking if there were other climbers who did a little yoga. I didnt ask for how much yoga sucks and how much weed you can smoke. As for the scientology thing whatever your religeon has nothing to do with how hard you climb. So why dont you guys stop posting crap and really give some useful information. A simple "No, I havent tried yoga. I am to weak to try something different." would have sufficed
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andy_lemon
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No I haven't tried yoga. A good friend of mine once said, "The key to Trad climbing is beer"-Lance Lowery Hope that helps Andy
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One thing for sure, Yoga can and will help with your flexibility, I take the Bikram's yoga. If you are not aware of this kind of yoga, it's in a high temperature(somewhere between 105-115 degree) room. I started for flexibility, to open my hip flexors for kickboxing. I was never able to kick any more than a 45 degree angle spread(Painfully). Between Orthopedic Dr.'s and General Dr.s just saying "that is as far as you will be able to acheive"...blah blah... Yoga has proved them wrong. Although the pain is still a factor, it's Yoga that makes it possible to push that diagnosis... Yoga is great for breathing, letting go of the outside world, being within your mind,shutting out the mindless insane chatter that goes pinging around our brains on a day to day basis. I may not ever be that limber person I want to be, but learning as I go is worth it, it feels great! I highly recommend it! T Don't knock it until you try it.
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Sep 15, 2001, 8:41 AM
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I have been doing yoga and TaiChi for years before I started climbing. It has helped my flexibility tremendously, breath control...not so much I still get too focused on climbing and forget to breathe. However my climbing partner (who knows my bad habits all too well) has a great mantra, "Breathe Al, breathe!" prior to every crux move. I hate it when she knows me too well.
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click on the belayer word bleow your name as it appears in your posts
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