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letsclimb4704
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My uncle is a quadriplegic because he fell while on a free solo climb. I'm trying to figure out how to convince my family it's alright for me to climb, because I can't talk about bouldering because they go crazy. There a;ways telling me i'm not allowed to climb without a rope. I would really like to share my experiences with them but I can't because no onoe wants what happened to him to happen to me. I would really appreciate any suggestions that you have. Thanks.
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jt512
Aug 10, 2005, 5:19 PM
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In reply to: My uncle is a quadraplegic because of free soloing, broke his neck and what not and i'm trying to figure out how to convince my family its alright for me to climb caz i even talk about bouldering a lil and they just freak out and say there won't be any climbing without ropes and i just spend hours trying to convince them morre risk is better than more money but if anyone can give suggestions on how i can convince them that would be great
You could learn to write like an adult. That might help.
-Jay
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smellyferret
Aug 10, 2005, 5:24 PM
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In reply to: i just spend hours trying to convince them morre risk is better than more money
This sounds like your first problem.
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notch
Aug 10, 2005, 5:30 PM
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I'm glad to see that you haven't viTRiOLLed the climbing community, in spite of your uncle's accident.
Good Luck
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clayman
Aug 10, 2005, 5:33 PM
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try climbing in a gym first, that might not freak them out as much and "what not"
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flipnfall
Aug 10, 2005, 5:43 PM
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In reply to: My uncle is a quadraplegic because of free soloing, broke his neck and what not and i'm trying to figure out how to convince my family its alright for me to climb caz i even talk about bouldering a lil and they just freak out and say there won't be any climbing without ropes and i just spend hours trying to convince them morre risk is better than more money but if anyone can give suggestions on how i can convince them that would be great
First of all, (as with most parents) your parents love you. It would really help them to know that you understand that and that you want to please them. My dad didn't want me climbing when I was 13 because I was young and all he could think about is the many bad accidents I had gotten myself into when I was younger. So I asked my dad what scared him. He replied with things like, "You may tie a knot wrong, " etc.
So I went to the library and got a book on knots and told him that I was studying climbing gear. To every objection he had, I made a HUGE effort to show him that I was being careful. After a few weeks he began to lighten up and see that I really wanted to climb. Because he loved me, he wanted me to be happy. So he cooperated more with my climbing by letting me go so long as I could get an adult from the family to drive me.
You may also want to learn about why your uncle got in an accident. Was it something avoidable like soloing? (Which of course is what you said). You can point out that this wouldn't have happened to your uncle if it were not for the fact that he was soloing. Simply make an effort to demonstrate that you're not going to solo. In doing this, you will help them understand that the cause of the accident wasn't climbing but the fact that your uncle was taking risks.
I hope this helps. I've been in your shoes before.
GT
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Aug 10, 2005, 5:49 PM
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I love how n00bs talk about how rock climbing is so extreme and how they love to take risks "bouldering". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Try to get them to lead climb a sport route, no less, and they pee their pants and go back to their fearless bouldering pursuits.
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krisp
Aug 10, 2005, 5:50 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: i just spend hours trying to convince them morre risk is better than more money This sounds like your first problem.
Ya don make cents :?
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landgolier
Aug 10, 2005, 5:51 PM
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Does anybody else feel like noobs and trolls are together pioneering a new literary form? Kind of like the haiku, except the conventions of this form are 5 lines, no punctuation, and a breathless, impressionism-at-80mph style. Please advise
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letsclimb4704
Aug 10, 2005, 5:51 PM
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I guess you have been in Five Ten Mojave's before.
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overlord
Aug 10, 2005, 5:52 PM
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:troll:
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jumaringjeff
Aug 10, 2005, 5:53 PM
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in my 5 years of climbing, I have sustained several injures (sprained ankles, bone chips in heel, sprained knee, concussion), all from falls while bouldering. I have taken many lead falls on sport climbs and several on trad, but none that resulted in injury.
I'm sure many people have had different results than I, but perhaps this could be some food for thought at the very least. Decking ain't cool, and that's exactly what happens when you fall bouldering.
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lizard0fthetrail
Aug 10, 2005, 5:55 PM
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Organic, that was the most irrelevant and useless post I've seen in a while. As for the OP, the mere thought of placing a higher value on money than on safety is absurd. Especially when confronting your parents, NEVER use that as an argument. If you want to climb, do so safely. There is plenty of equipment available that is low in price and still must pass the same safety regulations as all other gear. Take the time to earn the money and purchase the gear. Furthermore, find someone who is experienced to climb with or spend time in a gym to become well acquainted with both knots and belaying.
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letsclimb4704
Aug 10, 2005, 6:05 PM
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Now that i think about it that doesn't make much sense as to what I was trying to convey, I was trying to say that bouldering is inexpensive compared to other forms of climbing. Also that they should at least let me try the more risky things as I have gotten much better as my experience builds.
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eclipsor
Aug 10, 2005, 6:07 PM
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In reply to: You could learn to write like an adult. That might help.
Maybe you should take a page from flipnfall's book. His response was very helpful.
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letsclimb4704
Aug 10, 2005, 6:09 PM
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I accept criticism, but seriously why can't he just read about the topic and not criticize the writing.
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krisp
Aug 10, 2005, 6:15 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: You could learn to write like an adult. That might help. You could learn to not make comments such as these. Maybe you should take a page from flipnfall's book. His response was very helpful.
Let him have it Jay. He's asking for it!
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mburke225
Aug 10, 2005, 6:15 PM
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Becuase yuor lcak fo pucnation si pianfull. Torll
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grk10vq
Aug 10, 2005, 6:17 PM
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Couldn't you just go bouldering and tell your parents your rope climbing and save us all from this snoozer of a thread.
ps mburke's post is killing me right now. :lol:
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flipnfall
Aug 10, 2005, 6:21 PM
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In reply to: Becuase yuor lcak fo pucnation si pianfull. Torll
I'm just curious why we're so concerned about his spelling more than the fact that he's a kid who could use some wisdom and...God forbid...someone that may actually care about him.
Anyone have some good reaons why picking on him is more important than helping him? (Note: I used the wording "good reasons")
Spellers of the world, UNTIE!
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eclipsor
Aug 10, 2005, 6:23 PM
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In reply to: Let him have it Jay. He's asking for it!
I wasn't being anymore condescending than "Jay" was in his initial response. I honestly do not think the original poster was trolling, but everyone seems so eager to jump all over his case. If someone thinks that a troll is trying to instigate an argument, why even bother to respond? Just ignore him!
As for everyone's comments about spelling and grammar, just give it up guys. No one likes a grammar nazi. As long as you can understand the question and/or point behind someone's post, why criticize them about something that's completely unrelated to the subject matter at hand?
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mrtristan
Aug 10, 2005, 6:28 PM
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In reply to: I love how n00bs talk about how rock climbing is so extreme and how they love to take risks "bouldering". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I've actually gotten hurt more when bouldering as opposed to sport or trad.
-Tristan
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Aug 10, 2005, 6:28 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: You could learn to write like an adult. That might help. You could learn to not make comments such as these. Maybe you should take a page from flipnfall's book. His response was very helpful. |
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eclipsor
Aug 10, 2005, 6:35 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: You could learn to write like an adult. That might help. You could learn to not make comments such as these. Maybe you should take a page from flipnfall's book. His response was very helpful. Naw, I think it's the other way 'round. J chuckled but FF fed the troll. |
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krisp
Aug 10, 2005, 6:40 PM
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