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jderekforrester
Sep 7, 2005, 8:45 PM
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I know this question has been posed for trad, sport, and boulderers, but I thought I would start the list for aiders as well. If this has already been posted, sorry about posting again, but could you drop the heading where I could find the list. YOU KNOW YOU ARE AN AID CLIMBER WHEN.............
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devkrev
Sep 7, 2005, 8:48 PM
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you own more ovals than any other type of biner...
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tallnik
Sep 7, 2005, 9:44 PM
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You don't consider leaving the ground without your camping coffee-maker
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sandstoner
Sep 7, 2005, 9:49 PM
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youre fat, you cant free climb, you cant climb more than a pitch without needing booze.
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dingus
Sep 7, 2005, 10:09 PM
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Sure would be nice if there were some aid climbers around to tell us what it takes to be one. Try supertopo.com... never mind. The aid climbers there won't answer you either. Only there? You'll know its because they're ignoring you (instead of being non-existent) Cheers DMT
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sandstoner
Sep 7, 2005, 10:59 PM
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still trying to decide which forum is worse. both take a close second to sonorapassclimbing.com
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dingus
Sep 7, 2005, 11:03 PM
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ooooooooo, you are SO mean! I'm telling mommy on you! DMT
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jderekforrester
Sep 8, 2005, 12:15 AM
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..you are asked not to attend your local climbing comp because of profanities you spout ..the only people who understand why you climb are other aiders
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sandstoner
Sep 8, 2005, 5:01 AM
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i was banned from any social gathering long before i attempted my first wall
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holdplease2
Sep 8, 2005, 5:26 AM
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You feel uncomfortable not fixing and firing anything...or better, bivying... on anything more than four pitches off the deck. You find an ATC confusing and down right uncontrollable, but can rappel, haul, ascend, self belay, rap with a 200 pound pig, and open an OE with your gri gri. You use a series of spreadsheets to plan for every climb. You feel almost justified in carrying a supertopo. You can hold a heated conversation about politics while sh*tting in a paper bag 1500 feet off the deck and "cleaning up" with only one square of of rationed TP. Even when you are alone. You try to "bulk up" four your climbs...to make the hauling easier. You can stand on top of a summit and know you didn't just play on the climb for an hour...you lived it. -Kate.
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epic_ed
Sep 8, 2005, 6:23 AM
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Your rack is worth more than your car. Your rack weighs more than your car. You'd rather haul your car up your next grade VI than haul the load you plan to carry. Car? What car? You sold it to finance your aid climbing gear/habit/adventure. Ed
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mr8615
Sep 8, 2005, 11:42 AM
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Trophies all around, because Kate and Ed are awesome.
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cracklover
Sep 8, 2005, 2:03 PM
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**bump** (nice to see you Kate!) GO
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vegastradguy
Sep 8, 2005, 9:08 PM
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In reply to: You can hold a heated conversation about politics while sh*tting in a paper bag 1500 feet off the deck and "cleaning up" with only one square of of rationed TP. Even when you are alone. lol, nice kate....good to know that you're still sane! trophy for you!
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potreroed
Nov 5, 2005, 7:10 PM
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Everything you own has a keeper sling.
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holdplease2
Nov 14, 2005, 6:04 AM
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My pillow on my bed, the toothbrush by my bathroom sink, and my favorite lighter have clip in loops. :) :oops: -Kate.
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stroker
Nov 14, 2005, 6:25 AM
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you know you are an aid climber when...FREE CLIMBING SOUNDS LIKE TOO MUCH WORK. you know you are an aid climber when...YOU ARE STANDING IN THE AIDERS ON THE 5.8 SECTION OF A ROUTE. peace -tda
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stroker
Nov 14, 2005, 6:29 AM
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AID CLIMBERS SUCK AND NEED TO LEARN HOW TO NATURALLY HOLD ON TO THE ROCK! AIDERS WERE INVENTED BY A PERSON WHO DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CLIMB. PERHAPS HE/SHE WAS A ENGINEER RATHER THAN A CLIMBER. AN ENGINEER WOULD CONCEIVE THE IDEA OF USING MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE TO ASCEND THE ROCK. WHAT A BUNCH ON LAME AND LAZY PEOPLE. I'D RATHER NOT CLIMB THAN FIND MYSELF TIED TO THE ROCK BY A BUNCH OF NYLON. FREEDOM IS FREE!!!! -TDA
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holdplease2
Nov 14, 2005, 6:36 AM
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Stroker: I disagree...I believe that aid climbing is the manifestation of the natural desires of the average climber who climbs with gear... (freesoloists are another breed) I ask the Average trad leader... Do you not wish to stay near the gear once you have placed it? Do you not feel uneasy when your feet go above the gear? Do you not fight the urge to pull on the gear with your hands? Do you not wish to buy a third, or even fourth, set of cams, even when they are not on sale? Do you not wish to wear shoes that fit...comfortably? Do you not wish to stop sometimes, in the middle of a climb and go to sleep? Make dinner? Have a smoke? Do you not sometimes wish that your partner's lead would take for-ever, so that you might not have to be on the sharp end today? Ahhh yes. Aid climbing simply allows the average climber to follow his or her heart. :D -Kate.
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holdplease2
Nov 14, 2005, 6:43 AM
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jderekforrester
Nov 14, 2005, 7:13 AM
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Stroker, You are the most ignorant piece of sh** a cow could release after consuming days worth of laxative and eating nothing but tofu. You have obviously never aided or you would not have said that aid climbers are lazy or lame. To accuse an aid climber of laziness is pure folly, aid climbing is just as hard as free climbing physically, albeit in a different form. Go aid a hard route and describe to me your level of effort. In fact, don't talk to me again, you are so ignorant it makes me sick. Lameness is not a trait displayed by many aid climbers either. While some fancy pants free climbers do go around excluding others from the "climbing" circle, we recognize that climbing does take on numerous forms and most of us support them all. Now, let me tell you something about you. I would bet that you have a pretty small d#c^. Death is not something that you have had to experience, and you have no concept of commitment. **. You probably sit around looking at your small d#c^ wishing you had the cojones to ante up to a difficult beautiful aid wall, or at least had the intelligence to understand how people can climb these walls. You call us (aiders) engineers. Well, I appreciate that comment. We are smart and ingenuitive enough to find solutions to problems using our brains, not just our bodies. I have many faculties for figuring out a way to get to the top of a face ethically and do not have to rely solely on my physical form. If you would rather not climb at all if forced to aid, then you are missing what it is that is so great about climbing. The friends, the walls, the locations, the history; these are the characteristics that make me climb. As long as the rock is left as pristine and wild as possible, the aid experience is as justifiable as free climbing. Finally, if this was just some attempt to get someone to respond, victory is yours. Congratulations. If not, you truly are a pathetic wanker and should be smacked in the face with a rotting salmon.
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epic_ed
Nov 14, 2005, 5:12 PM
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Stroker is just pulling yer dick. Looks like he has done plenty of aiding climbing according to his "routes" list. http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/listSection.php?SectionID=3453#R38423 So, Troy, you're either a weak troll or a silly hypocrite. And your CAPS LCOK key is stuck... Ed
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stroker
Nov 14, 2005, 7:43 PM
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Ok the cats out of the bag. Some of my greatest climbing days have been spend in the slings high off the deck while staring at a less than inspiring piece. I enjoy hypocritical statements so I can view other peoples views about something I truly enjoy. I hope all is forgivin. Happy aid climbing -tda ps. I am also quite lazy.
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jderekforrester
Nov 14, 2005, 10:03 PM
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Sorry about getting so heated, I am relieved to know that someone is not really that assanine.
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