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etrier
Sep 26, 2005, 6:05 AM
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This route rocks! Kudos to Aaron and CJ for all the hard work. Really good climbing (12 pitches) on a big limestone wall in Utah! We loved it, and found the raps very smooth. Would love to talk to either one of you about it. pm me, if you get this message.
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etrier
Sep 30, 2005, 2:02 PM
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Jim,
I notice your new additions you added. Any chance you can draw in lines on the photo to show where Appetite is?
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howe
Oct 1, 2005, 12:38 AM
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Yeah I really want to add a topo line and maybe you can add western Hardman line on that one as well
I tried earlier but I don't seem to have a current program on my computer that will let me do it. Any Ideas? It would be a nice addition.
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mendou
Oct 1, 2005, 2:21 AM
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:lol: hahahahaha.....
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mendou
Oct 1, 2005, 2:24 AM
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In reply to: Jim, I notice your new additions you added. Any chance you can draw in lines on the photo to show where Appetite is?
when i was looking in google "Western Hardman" I found this pic....
you mentioned Appetite Jim...is this route marked in orange? :?:
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howe
Oct 1, 2005, 4:45 AM
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Mendou--I have not yet marked a line on "Appetite for Destruction". I will try to put a line on the photo titled "lower North face". For reference, the route is seen on the right 1/3 of the photograph. most noticable is a flat, blank wall at about 1/3rd height. it goes up the center of that wall. you can see the same wall with climbers on it in the 2 photos that are titled "pitch 4" of Appetite.
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etrier
Oct 1, 2005, 4:49 AM
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Yea,
Those two routes deserve some quality topos...I'll talk about it with you the next time we aren't in cyberchat, but in person
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howe
Oct 1, 2005, 4:49 AM
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I think that your Western Hardman should be carved in relief on the flanks of the route. it would be so Euro! :twisted:
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howe
Jun 28, 2006, 9:45 PM
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Tommie and I did the first 6 pitches of Western Hardman, through the "Godsend Pitch". The route (up to that point) is good and similar in character to other routes on the upper face. It is certainly easier than Appetite for Destruction, which makes it an ideal choice for the FULL Notch experience of starting on the lower headwall and pushing on to the summit via one of the upper face routes.
We did those first 6 pitches as 3 (55-58m long) We carried a smaller rack than described: a single set of cams (tcu's to # 4 camalot) and nuts, with doubles on mid-range cams. that was plenty even with combined pitches. Take long runners. It took us 4 hours up and down those 6 pitches. The rest of the route looks good. I'll be back to do it later.
The Rap's were very nice. We did them in just 3 but it was nice to have the option of making only 1/2 rope rappels.
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sooba
Jul 3, 2006, 10:00 AM
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so once you have finished Western Hardman you can do the Swiss Route. ... or a Western Harman link to the Swiss route. The Dry Eiger indeed!
Howe is the undisputed King of Notch.
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