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kimgraves
Oct 15, 2005, 5:56 PM
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There a report on Super Topo that Tommy Caldwell and Beth Rodden got the second free assent of the Nose yesterday. No details however. Anyone know anything further?
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the_dude
Oct 15, 2005, 6:03 PM
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I guess they both freed it too. Bad ass!
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rvega
Oct 15, 2005, 11:31 PM
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We saw this rumor on Supertopo but is there a press release to validate it?
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healyje
Oct 16, 2005, 12:05 AM
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In reply to: ...but is there a press release to validate it?
WTF! When did any ascent in rock climbing need a "press release" to "validate" it? We don't "validate" sh#t, we climb it, and if you or anyone that saw you do it have a level of integrity your peers accept that suffices. If Werner drops a hint that Jesus Christ has returned you can believe it happened. And people wonder why old guys piss and moan...
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roy_hinkley_jr
Oct 16, 2005, 12:17 AM
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In reply to: And people wonder why old guys piss and moan...
So either you're a young guy or a geezer with a poor knowledge of history. Too much money involved these days to merely take a climber's word on accomplishments or events.
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boltdude
Oct 16, 2005, 12:21 AM
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In reply to: is there a press release to validate it?
Gotta love it.
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healyje
Oct 16, 2005, 12:28 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: And people wonder why old guys piss and moan... So either you're a young guy or a geezer with a poor knowledge of history. Too much money involved these days to merely take a climber's word on accomplishments or events.
Actually I'm a geezer with an excellent grasp on the history - you're second comment is the unstated obvious behind my comment. And attitudes like this are precisely why climbing has becoming a Six Flags activity with [safe] stage shows for all ages. Trust me, innuendo from Werner is 'the word' to every gear manufacturer and sponsor on Earth.
Again, and people wonder why old guys piss and moan...
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rockitjeff
Oct 16, 2005, 12:30 AM
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Hi Rebecca,
Don't let those salty old dogs get ya down.
But yes, anything Werner Braun says (he is who posted it up on ST)
is absolute Gospel. So purty cool stuff, eh? Team Caldwell. Amazing.
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musicman
Oct 16, 2005, 1:23 AM
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awesome! i've always wondered who would get the second ascent. so, does the article on ST say anything about who lead what pitches? it was like a team free thing right? swapping leads basically. either way, that is so cool, exciting, i bet it's up there as one of there favorite repeats.
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chanceboarder
Oct 16, 2005, 1:28 AM
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congrats to them both!
thats awesome, way to go! i can't wait to hear the details.
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crshbrn84
Oct 16, 2005, 1:42 AM
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awsome. I cant wait to see pictures of them on the great roof and the changing corners pitch. Congrats to the two of them. Im curious to know what rating they gave it.
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enjoimx
Oct 16, 2005, 1:49 AM
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Holy smokes...Ive been waiting for this day ! Just really exciting I guess.
Congratulations!! :D :D :lol:
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alonfw
Oct 16, 2005, 1:54 AM
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Can someone provide a link to where this is mentioned on super topo? I can't find it.
Alon :)
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curt
Oct 16, 2005, 2:17 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: ...but is there a press release to validate it? WTF! When did any ascent in rock climbing need a "press release" to "validate" it? We don't "validate" sh#t, we climb it, and if you or anyone that saw you do it have a level of integrity your peers accept that suffices. If Werner drops a hint that Jesus Christ has returned you can believe it happened. And people wonder why old guys piss and moan...
True dat.
Curt
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rvega
Oct 16, 2005, 10:18 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ...but is there a press release to validate it? WTF! When did any ascent in rock climbing need a "press release" to "validate" it? We don't "validate" sh#t, we climb it, and if you or anyone that saw you do it have a level of integrity your peers accept that suffices. If Werner drops a hint that Jesus Christ has returned you can believe it happened. And people wonder why old guys piss and moan... True dat. Curt
Damn people, I just assumed after such an event and in light of the fact that the two of them are sponsered by like 8 companies combined there would be an offical press release. All I wanted to do was read about it some more cause it's so awesome. People need to chill about a bit, eh? :roll:
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climbsomething
Oct 16, 2005, 10:31 PM
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In defense of rvega, today's popular climbing culture is very media and spray saturated. Of course you know that. If a fourth grader has an entourage following her around while she works V10, then I am pretty sure something of "Free Nose" stature will require at least as much validation anymore. Sorry, Werner. Sorry, crusty old guys.
I don't make the rules (honest, I don't), I just point out to you how they've changed.
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rvega
Oct 16, 2005, 10:41 PM
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In reply to: In defense of rvega, today's popular climbing culture is very media and spray saturated. Of course you know that. If a fourth grader has an entourage following her around while she works V10, then I am pretty sure something of "Free Nose" stature will require at least as much validation anymore. Sorry, Werner. Sorry, crusty old guys. I don't make the rules (honest, I don't), I just point out to you how they've changed.
Thanks Hillary.
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mistymountainhop
Oct 16, 2005, 10:53 PM
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I soo called that last year!!!
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healyje
Oct 17, 2005, 7:30 AM
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In reply to: In defense of rvega, today's popular climbing culture is very media and spray saturated. Of course you know that. If a fourth grader has an entourage following her around while she works V10, then I am pretty sure something of "Free Nose" stature will require at least as much validation anymore. Sorry, Werner. Sorry, crusty old guys. I don't make the rules (honest, I don't), I just point out to you how they've changed.
Again, there isn't a person writing checks in the business today that wouldn't take Werner's or the Caldwell's word on it...
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climbsomething
Oct 17, 2005, 7:44 AM
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I believe Mr. Braun (even though I don't know him). But I don't think everybody knows who he is. (Joe/Jane Everyguy consumers, not leaders in the climbing industry)
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overlord
Oct 17, 2005, 8:54 AM
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kudos to them. and if they both freed it (and from the ST thread they did), that makes it 2 women and 1 man to free the nose. they have us by the balls, i tell you :wink:
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cfnubbler
Oct 17, 2005, 7:12 PM
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Proud, with a capital "P". 'Nuff said.
-Nubbler
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phaedrus
Oct 17, 2005, 7:24 PM
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phaedrus moved this thread from General to World Climbing News.
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