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up_up_up
Mar 8, 2006, 1:40 PM
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Is http://cgi.ebay.com/...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 that rope worth the buy?! Would any of you trust it out there. Or is it worth the piece of mind to know you have a factory bought and packaged rope? THANKS :D
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tgreene
Mar 8, 2006, 2:24 PM
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I would say most likely yes, but without knowing the history of how the rope has been stored, it's a difficult determination... Also, the $20 shipping fee is absurd! Since the minimum price is already $70 shipped, in all honesty I would be more inclined to simply spend another $30-50 on a factory new rope from Gear Express or Pagan Gear. Gear Express offers free shipping when you spend over $50, and Pagan often has similar deals & sales. Both companies are fantastic to deal with!
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climbrox391
Mar 8, 2006, 3:00 PM
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I second the idea of buying a new rope, and Gear Express is probably the best online retailer I have ever dealt with. As for $20 in shipping, FT, you're better off to go with a new one.
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hammerhead
Mar 8, 2006, 3:23 PM
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REI-outlet has a PMI 10.2x60m for $110.00
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davidji
Mar 8, 2006, 4:01 PM
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tgreene
Mar 8, 2006, 4:09 PM
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The auction title says it's a 10.5mm 60m rope.
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vincentprice
Mar 8, 2006, 4:22 PM
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That was my first rope, it's the Mammut Promo. I got mine on sale from a place that was going out of business for $80, but it looks like it sells new for 129.00. It's a solid rope and the bag is alright. I don't think it's a bad deal.
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vegastradguy
Mar 8, 2006, 4:47 PM
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you'd really buy a used rope to save a couple of bucks? i don't know about you, but i'm the kind of guy that feels that my life is worth the price of a new rope..... i also don't know who sells used ropes- i'd never sell one of mine, even if it was still factory coiled. if i bought it, i consider it a non-resale item- either it gets trashed or turned into a rug. the only climbing related thing i would ever consider buying second hand is something made of metal....cams (which get reslung before use), belay devices, carabiners, stoppers, etc. Anything nylon is, well....not to be trusted.
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guanoboy
Mar 8, 2006, 5:02 PM
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vegastradguy- not to be contrary, but with a rope you can tell when it is damaged (i.e., soft spot, excessive fuzz, core shot). With metal gear you can not see the damage that will result in failure (i.e., microfractures). Personally, I use used gear, but i try to double up pro so that i am not relying on a single piece. As far as the rope being a single peice upon which we all rely, I use doubles or 11mm ropes.
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iltripp
Mar 8, 2006, 5:29 PM
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In reply to: vegastradguy- not to be contrary, but with a rope you can tell when it is damaged (i.e., soft spot, excessive fuzz, core shot). Unless it was left sitting in the sun for weeks.... or stored in the trunk of a car next to an old battery.
In reply to: With metal gear you can not see the damage that will result in failure (i.e., microfractures). :D
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moose_droppings
Mar 8, 2006, 5:44 PM
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In reply to: vegastradguy- not to be contrary, but with a rope you can tell when it is damaged (i.e., soft spot, excessive fuzz, core shot). Yeah, after you've bought it you can feel the bad spots. Can you feel how much stretch is left in it too?
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vegastradguy
Mar 8, 2006, 9:37 PM
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In reply to: vegastradguy- not to be contrary, but with a rope you can tell when it is damaged (i.e., soft spot, excessive fuzz, core shot). With metal gear you can not see the damage that will result in failure (i.e., microfractures). Personally, I use used gear, but i try to double up pro so that i am not relying on a single piece. As far as the rope being a single peice upon which we all rely, I use doubles or 11mm ropes. suit yourself. doubles or 11mm? sheesh, thats a bit paranoid....i usually run on a 9.6, doubles, twins, or whatever other rope i have sitting around. that said- i know the history of all of my ropes...... also, not that i'm a scientist, but i was under the impression (after casually reading random threads on the subject) that aluminum doesnt microfracture- either it cracks or its good.
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k_r_o_c
Mar 8, 2006, 10:12 PM
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I think that there are certainly good buys out there on "used" climbing gear, but a rope is something that is worth the extra money. It will last you a long time if you take care of it. As far as purchasing used gear - if you know what to look for and are getting it from a trusted source, then I think that you could consider it. However, I do think that it is easier to judge used gear when you can actually inspect it yourself (and you know what you are looking for). Good Luck!
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