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iceravines
Mar 17, 2006, 2:09 PM
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I have read and spoken to many climbers looking to find more detail on how to climb or improve their knowledge . As a result I would recommend the Field Manual FM 3-97.61 Military Mountaineering as a start. https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldierPortal/atia/adlsc/view/public/7635-1/fm/3-97.61/toc.htm
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nwiehle
Mar 17, 2006, 2:47 PM
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It wouldn't open!
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bastien
Mar 17, 2006, 3:17 PM
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Yeap, me neither.
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iceravines
Mar 17, 2006, 3:22 PM
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I recommend just typing FM 3-97.61 and you will find many links to that manual. I did not mean to add a active link to take you off page or from rc.com
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epoch
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Mar 17, 2006, 4:27 PM
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Here's the link I haven't had a chance to read it. But at least the link is there for you lazy types...
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iceravines
Mar 17, 2006, 4:32 PM
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Thanks jda Im not that savy w/posts yet
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epoch
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Mar 17, 2006, 6:00 PM
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Ok, just finished a quick read of the document in question. It seems to be written for the ill-informed field commander who knows nothing about mountains or mountain life. Understandably it is written for combatants, and proper mountaineering employment to overcome a tactical goal. IMO Freedom Of the Hills is a better reference, as it is more indepth and is structured towards a recreational use. If I were to write mountain warefare for dummies then I would reference this text, as this appears to be the text for a 3-4 week course that the military offers to it's ranks. (Note: I am fully aware of military training and the nuances involved with it. As well as fully knowledgable of said schools and what the intail, from teaching a whole division the skills needed to the field commanders and how to effectively utilize mountain warefare skills. There are several US installations nation-wide that do this. I know of and have been to many, not as a participant though.)
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redlegrangerone
Mar 17, 2006, 8:38 PM
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I would rather use Freedom of the Hills over the Army field manual. In the military, our objective was to get somewhere fast and furious. Often times, safety was a distant second to getting found, seen, or shot. We often rappelled aussie style with just a biner. How often would you want to try this after a little sport route?
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anykineclimb
Mar 18, 2006, 12:47 PM
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Why bother? you can get all the (dis)information you want and don't want right HERE!!! :lol:
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