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hey, i have a dull pain in my bicep about two inches above my elbow, it isn't the main bicep, feels just slightly off center. perhaps the underneith one? when it hurts, its like i lose half the strength in the bicep. I took, six weeks off for it thinking it was pulled, then started light, 20 lb bar bell curls, 3 sets of 20, three days a week. after three weeks of that, i feel it again. what the hell?? i thoughht it would be fine and good after 6 weeks off, any suggestions? thanks in advance


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It's possible you've strained a tendon or something, in which case you'll need alot longer than 6 weeks recovery. You might want to consult your doctor, but until then I'd take it real easy before you really fuck something up.


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ripped a bicep year before last cost me 6 months of the climbing season-- the problem i had was not with the 2 main bicep muscles but rather the muscle belly in-between the two main heads(med students help me out here) the muscle i tore was then little lump between the outer head of te bicep and the tricep(??) alot of hammer curls with low weight and now im good to go and get no pain from it.. No facts just what worked for me hope it helps for a speedy recovery..


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Just a thought.. I personally don't think that "starting back light with 10lb bicep curls 3 sets 3 times a week for 3 weeks" is starting light.
If I was coming back after a six week break specifically targetting the muscle with excersise, I would be looking to do a LIGHT work out, eg 5lbs a set, a couple of time a week, then a bit more the week after. So after 3 weeks I might be doing one set 10 wih 10lb, if every thing had gone totally painlessly.
Unless you really allow it to recover and restrengthen slowly you will just be in a cycle of rest-train too hard-rest- train to hard etc etc.
When coming back from injury you must allways do less than you think you should-just to make sure you don't overdo it. Thats what I think anyway..

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ripped a bicep year before last cost me 6 months of the climbing season-- the problem i had was not with the 2 main bicep muscles but rather the muscle belly in-between the two main heads(med students help me out here) the muscle i tore was then little lump between the outer head of te bicep and the tricep(??) alot of hammer curls with low weight and now im good to go and get no pain from it.. No facts just what worked for me hope it helps for a speedy recovery..

need not be med student to know anatomy, but i think you speak of the bracialis.


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This is most likely the brachialis muscle as just posted. its a deep dull pain, and it feels like it is right on the bone. the main place you will feel it is about 2 inches above your elbow, kinda deep and inbetween the bi's and tri's. it might travel up to just below the shoulder. the brachialis muscle originates just below where the deltoids (shoulder) muscles insert.
the brachialis inserts on the medial, or pinky side of the lower arm up by where the upper arm and lower arm meet. This is a pain that takes awhile to go away, and it makes it feel like you cant hold on to things, and when you blow off a hold, it hurt like hell. what i do, whether or not it is the ''best'' thing, is to ice it after climbing, get it nice and numb. a way to make it stronger is to do a bicep curl with a dumbbell, but hold the dumbell like you are drinking out of a cup, and then throwing the water in the cup over your shoulder, by that respective ear. also listen to your body, and if it says im in pain back off a bit, work on stuff with bigger holds, that you most likely won't fall off, cause i think that is when the pain is the worse.
hope this helps.


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Just a thought.. I personally don't think that "starting back light with 10lb bicep curls 3 sets 3 times a week for 3 weeks" is starting light.

I agree with what you're saying in regards to progressing slowly back into your lifting routine and that if it hurts, then you should probably stop. However, depending on what his normal lifting routine is, this may very well be starting light. I personally, never lift a single muscle group more than twice a week; not enough time to recover IMO. But if he was doing 40 pound dumbell biceps curls every other day (gotta work those 'beach muscles' :lol: ), then 10 pounds 3 times a week might be 'light'

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10lb hammer curls may not be enough to help strengthen anway. As rehab, possibly, but that is something a professional should determine.

A few weeks after I started climbing, I developed brachialis-related pain that stuck around for 3 months or so (and time off helped most). Before climbing, I had done weight training for general fitness. Some of those exercises involved hammer curls (as mentioned in prior posts) -- 3 sets, 15 reps of 25 to 30 pounds.

Point being, general fitness may not matter, curls may not help. Climbing will load muscles in ways that weight training won't.

There's also a lot of stuff going on in the medial upper arm, just above the elbow. A web-based diagnosis by non-professionals could mistake brachialis pain for pain at the insertion of the triceps long head.


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I have had bicep pain plenty of times for overtraining, but let me tell in you in the end the overtraining paid off haha.
Anyways what I have done to get rid of the pain. Stay hydrated, I don't think some people think about this enough when just bouldering or during everyday. Eat healthy and take a multi-vitamin. Stretch out your bicep muscle. Take a little more time off. Don't push yourself hard when you do get back to climbing. This is what helped me and I was getting intense pain in my biceps for like an hour after bouldering!


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I get pain in between my bi's and tri's quite often when climbing. I've tried taking time off, and it still hurts. In most cases, the more I climb on it - the less it hurts. Works well for me :)


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Go see an athletic trainer. If you are a student, your school may provide this service for free/really cheap. Well worth it, this is your body, and climbing brings you :D . Being injured = :cry: .


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