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Its just a question I keep wondering about...
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Anybody :?:
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I'm just wondering how far back does rockclimbing go recreationally speaking. Scientifically speaking, if humans evolved from monkeys, did our great, great, great ancestors ever climb? Some say that monkeys can't even climb rock, only trees. I'm pretty sure cavemen needed to climb rock for reasons such as hunting or escaping from wild beasts. Anyways, just something to think about.


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If you think Americans were first, you got it WRONG


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I've read whole books on the subject and still dont know. (But it wasnt americans)


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I've read whole books on the subject and still dont know.


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http://i49.photobucket.com/...with_fire_sm_clr.gifThe ROCK CLIMBING GOD of HELL FIRE...that's who!http://i49.photobucket.com/...with_fire_sm_clr.gif


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um neanderthals they had great ape index


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John Gill has a nice website on the origins of bouldering. Chances are that all rock climbing extended from bouldering in Great Britain in the 1880s and Oscar Eckenstein. Good luck finding the first person who climbed up a rock face! Maybe moses and Mt. cyanid (Spelling?)?


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sinai? i'm not sure what mountain moses climbed, but cyanid(e) wasn't it.

op: brave question. i have no idea, and i suspect nobody knows, :(. but it would be good to know!


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I remember reading a Verm story about a baboon that climbed its way into a pickle, had to do a desperate dyno to get out and proceeded to furiously masterbate upon reaching firm ground again.

Maybe your answer is in there somewhere.

DMT


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Yes it was Mount Sinai.

Here's my references:

Bible: Exodus 20:2-17

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments


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It was Ung - third cave on the left, after the tar pits. He'd accidentally released his favorite atlatl, and had to climb up some rocks to retrieve it.
It was on a Tuesday.


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you mean: when did rockclimbing for purpose parted from rc for fun?

in africa, they climbed mountains to get to birds nests or to bury their dead (mali)
other mountains were climbed for 'scientific' reasons or to collect crystals
I guess the fun part started around 1900 and after the industrial revolution that permitted people to have free time to spend.

in africa they still climb to bury the dead...


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I remember reading a Verm story about a baboon that climbed its way into a pickle, had to do a desperate dyno to get out and proceeded to furiously masterbate upon reaching firm ground again.

Maybe your answer is in there somewhere.

DMT

lovely, dingus.


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I'm still laughing at Mt. Cyanide :D

"Los Angeles' Cedars-Cyanide Medical Center troubled by incredibly high patient death rates"


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Yeah, but you all knew what I meant!

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I'm still laughing at Mt. Cyanide :D

"Los Angeles' Cedars-Cyanide Medical Center troubled by incredibly high patient death rates"


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totally


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Check out the Pilgrimage video to see how monkeys can climb rock.

And yeah, it was the mid-19th century when bored Englishmen started going to the Alps to climb for fun.


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I believe the first rock climbing as apposed to rock scrambling, was on St Kilda, in the outer hebridis, where locals would climb the famous gniess cliffs to steal birds eggs. due to this, the birds would nest higher, and on harder ground, making the locals climb some pretty serious stuff to steal the eggs. 5.4 I think.

-Magnus


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I'm just wondering how far back does rockclimbing go recreationally speaking.
I think emphasis must be put on the phrase "recreationally", so climbing for sport or fun, not for earning a living or similar.
In Elbsandstein, which is considered one of the most traditional german climbing areas, start of climbing as sport is considered 6.3.1864, when a group from a local gym climbed the Falkenstein. But it became really popular as sport around 1900.
Some people cite even an earlier incident, when 19.3.1848 the chimney sweep Sebastian Abratzky climbed the rock on castle Koenigstein. But the sports motivation of this is disputed; some say it was for economical reasons to save the entrance fee.


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Yeah, but you all knew what I meant!

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I'm still laughing at Mt. Cyanide :D

"Los Angeles' Cedars-Cyanide Medical Center troubled by incredibly high patient death rates"

what you didn't mean was much funnier.


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I remember reading a Verm story about a baboon that climbed its way into a pickle, had to do a desperate dyno to get out and proceeded to furiously masterbate upon reaching firm ground again.

Wow ... my evolutionary roots haunt me! I have a very similar post-climb celebration!


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As to "where", it is generally thought that the sport of rock climbing began during the last quarter of the 19th century in at least two areas: Elbsandsteingebirge near Dresden and in the Lake District of England. As to "who", there's no acceptable answer. 8^)


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The Mont Aiguille, SOuth of Grenoble in France, has been first climbed on June 1492 by Sir Antoine de Ville with ropes and climbing material. Here are some pictures found on the web. The Mont Aiguille, elev. 2087m has around 40 routes of all difficulties.

http://www.matze.spider-net.de/Fotos/aignord2.jpg

http://cliophoto.clionautes.org/...es/mont-aiguille.jpg
The original route starts left of the crack I believe.

http://images.google.fr/...nne-drome-724869.jpg

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