...Maybe someday he can be cool enough to talk trash on an internet forum...

jimdavis's Logbook

2006-10-15 Red Point V0 Bilbo's Revenge
2006-10-14 Red Point V0 Cream
2006-10-10 Red Point 5.7 Funhouse
2006-10-10 Red Point 5.6 Thin Air ***
2006-10-09 Onsight 5.7 Slabs Direct
2006-10-09 Top Rope 5.5 Upper Refuse
2006-10-01 Red Point 5.7 Gunklandia **
2006-05-12 Top Rope 5.8 Thinner *
2005-02-16 Red Point WI3 Main Pillar
2004-09-25 Onsight 5.7 Old Town ***
2004-09-12 Top Rope 5.5 Standard Route
2004-05-16 Onsight 5.3 Betty
2004-05-16 Onsight 5.6 Spare Ribs
2004-05-14 Red Point 5.9 Happy Face
2004-05-05 Top Rope 5.8 Slice Of The Gunks
2004-05-05 Top Rope
2004-05-05 Top Rope 5.10c Route Awakening
2004-05-01 Top Rope 5.9 Wheaties
2004-05-01 Top Rope 5.10b Attitude Adjuster
2004-04-30 Red Point 5.4 Easy Stuff
2004-03-12 Red Point 5.8 Itching to Climb
2003-11-14 Hang Dog 5.9 They Died Laughing
2003-11-14 Hang Dog 5.8 Mantleshelf
2003-09-27 Top Rope 5.8 Alley Fox
2003-09-14 Hang Dog 5.9 Hard Stuff
2003-09-14 Red Point 5.9 Happy Face
2003-08-03 Red Point 5.6 Neophyte Delight
2003-07-04 Flash 5.10b Puss in Boots
2003-07-04 Red Point 5.9 Orange Sunshine
2003-07-04 Top Rope
2003-07-04 Flash 5.7 Dancing Nancy
2003-04-20 Onsight 5.5 Pried and Joy
2003-04-12 Top Rope 5.7 Foxy Lady
2003-04-12 Onsight 5.8 Upside Down Staircase

Sorry, I should have said "roller skates." That shit would be way too easy in swim fins. HaHa. fucking poseur.

Curt

I've been into climbing for a couple of years now, I havent been able to go NEARLY as often as I'd like too, and because of this, I'm not an expert cimber. However the community that I climb with happens to be supportive and FRIENDLY, If this is the way that you are on a regular basis, I hope I never run into you at a crag. Thanks!

Well, I don't climb much in Indiana--so, you're probably safe. However, I'm not sure why you prefer people who are supportive and friendly, but stupid--over those who could actually help you. It's your choice I suppose...

Curt

How is it that his climbing community is stupid, Curt? Or are you just saying that you're smarter than everyone else?

Jim

I would never claim to be smarter than everyone else, Jim. I'm merely much more knowledgeable about climbing than all the gumbies, grommets, n00bs and other wannabes (like you) here. At least when I do hold myself out as an expert on this site, I have almost 30 years of climbing experience at a fairly high standard behind me--thousands of routes of all kinds, all over the world. Because of that (in part) I have a pretty good fundamental understanding of how most climbing stuff works.

You, on the other hand, routinely attempt to give climbing advice to others when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You have no meaningful climbing experience and no real climbing ability. All you "know" about climbing comes from what you either read or heard from some other "expert" climber.

Unfortunately, for both yourself and those who may unwittingly read the drivel you post here, your utter lack of experience denies you the critical ability to differentiate between what information that you either read or heard is correct from that which is incorrect. Thus, even if on a rare occasion, you do post an answer that is correct, you have absolutely no idea "why" it is correct. You are nothing more than a horrible example of what not to do on an internet forum. Please stop embarrassing yourself by impersonating a real rock climber on the internet.

Spend your time more productively, psyching yourself up for that next 5.5 redpoint.

Curt

"Why" is a question I ask myself about each thing I learn.

...If our paths ever cross I would have no hesitation to challenge you on any technical system/ anchor/ technique related to recreational climbing and rescue...

Your useless negative posts on here have contributed nothing, nor given me any insight into what it is you do or don't know about climbing systems...

I have no reason to think you know half of the skills I do...

If it took you 30 years to figure out how a climbing shoe works, then I genuinely feel bad for you.

If your going to pull punches and try to insult me...at least try and be original, and pick something I actually might care about. You think I really care about what grade I climb at?

You obviously have no understanding of me, and why it is that I climb.

It's pretty sad when someone with your "depth of experience" is still caught up in the game of numbers.

You think I really care about what grade I climb at

It's pretty sad when someone with your "depth of experience" is still caught up in the game of numbers.

Obviously you do not.


Climbing is inherently about challenging yourself. Now, once you've successfully met a challenge, unless you up the stakes a notch, then you are no longer challenging yourself, and you have consigned yourself to mediocrity. Everybody starts in this sport for the challenge. However, some forget why they started, get comfortable with what they know they can do, and stop challenging themselves. These climbers inevitably rationalize that their motivation lies elsewhere. Often they become experts at safety systems; become obsessed with gear; claim they just want to go sight seeing when they climb; want to with hang out with friends; blah, blah, blah. That this is self-delusion is apparent from the fact that any of these goals could be met while remaining safely on the ground.

So, climbing is about ever upping the challenge. For most, it is about climbing harder routes (mediocre climbers disparagingly call this "number chasing"). It can be about other physical and mental challenges too, but usually it's about difficulty.

In no other sport I can think of do mediocre participants attempt to claim that, by virtue of their mediocrity, they are morally superior to those who desire to improve. Gymnasts don't think, "I'm happy with scoring an 8.8 on the bars; anyone who aspires to a 9.0 or 10.0 is 'just chasing numbers'."

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being satisfied with climbing at a mediocre level. What is wrong is to claim that those who want to improve are morally or aesthetically inferior, which is what your reference to "the game of numbers" in your post implies.

Jay

You haven't yet learned anything--not in any real sense, anyway.


Your incompetence is exceeded only by your delusional sense of your own abilities. Although it would be good fun to watch you whimper and cry, I'd rather free-solo than ever climb routes with you. In any real emergency, all you could possibly do is try to figure out which book to consult. I take dumps that know more about climbing than you; plus, most of my dumps are less irritating and offensive than you.


Sadly, it isn't possible to impart any insight to a largely vacuous intellect.


Once again, it is obvious that (in your own mind) you are some towering figure in the world of climbing. That's why people have written all about you, in numerous books concerning the history of climbing in the United States, right? Oh that's right, they haven't. Guess what? No one ever will. You will never, ever be confused with a competent climber by people who actually know what's up. You're merely a miserable little fuck who only reads climbing books and takes climbing classes.


Again, a complete climbing bumbly, such as yourself, is in no position to explain how anything works to anyone here at RC.com--except perhaps how you prefer to choke your own chicken. There, I can believe you do have plenty of practical experience.


If I sucked real hard, like you, I'd probably make a claim like that too--it's really about the best you can do under the circumstances of being weak, untalented and unskilled.


That's true enough. Usually people don't stick with something they suck at. You're an anomaly.


I think it's far sadder that your own "depth of experience" is really nothing more than the armchair quarterback variety, having basically no climbing experience or talent. Now go read another book on climbing so you can come back here and post about something else you don't actually understand.

Curt

...their rep on here treats people like shit...I put a thread up about this a while back. titled "madrock: the user and the brand" you can find it if this interests you.

I won't buy from companies that have bad customer service, so I won't touch MR shoes. My Flashes climbed well enough, but my Evolv's work a lot better...

...I think Mad Rock makes a terrific shoe for the money. Their Formula 5 rubber is perhaps the stickiest climbing shoe rubber on the market at higher temperature ranges. Whereas various tests have shown most climbing shoe rubber (C4, Vibram, etc.) to have maximum friction at around 50 degrees, F, the Mad Rock rubber has maximal friction in the 65 to 85 degree F range.

I particularly like the new, redesigned (gray colored) Mad Rock Phoenix shoe. They are extremely comfortable, slightly more aggressive than the old Phoenix and don't turn my feet yellow. They're a great all-around shoe, and work well on friction, pockets, edges and most anything else--at least up through V8 and 5.12 climbing. Beyond that, you'll have to ask someone else...