Here's one for the masses....I consider myself more of an onsight/2nd try climber. I'll get on a route and either try to onsight it or work it out first go on lead or TR. If I feel like I can do it next go, I will. If I feel like I cannot/would have to project it, I'll come back to it when I'm stronger.
This is all theoretical, mostly, I don't care how much better I am than you
It seems like, in today's day and climbing world, you're quality of a climber is defined by your hardest red point. I don't like to project stuff though...I get pissy when I cannot do a route (Ask J_ung, he belayed me for like 5 goes on a project at Whipporwill, NRG, I was definitely pissed on try 4)
So statistically, you're red point limit is a full grade over your onsight/flash limit. So say my hardest onsight/flash is 11c, I should be red pointing 12c (by projecting them.)
So If I were to compare myself to another climber who is climbing 12b, would I be a better climber than them (or should I ask their hardest flash?)
Remember, this is all theoretical, I know comparing oneself to another climber is a Faux Pas...
For a while, my hardest red point and hardest flash were congruent (so I figured maybed I oughta try something harder and increased my hardest red point by a letter in 3 goes.)
Oh and my actual limits are not posted above, i was just picking numbers (don't want anyone to get the wrong impression.)
im mostly a sport climber and i prefer to 1st or 2nd try stuff. i just think that projecting is a waste of time. in the time spent projecting a route in one day, i can easily climb at least two others.
that said, i will occasionally project a route, if i find it fun and challenging. that usually means a technical face climb. im not really good at those and i prefer climbing stuff im not that good at. more of a challenge.
so i persnally pout a good onsight climber above a good redpoint climber. hanging off draws in the middle of the route is not what climbing is about for me. veni vidi vici is the way to go.
its seems like you are concerned about other people's yardsticks of success so you can compare youeself to them. what you do doesn't mean shit to anyone else, and what they do should be irrelevent to what you do. just say what you do honestly and respect those who do the same.
I consider myself a project climber. I'll onsight stuff for the hell of climbing something I've never climbed before with no previous knowledge of it. I lie projects , as they make me push myself. If I can't climb the project, I'll go climb something else for a a couple weeks, and train specifically for that project. I like climbing stuff above my level, as it pushes me to my limit. Hitting that limit and then pushing through it is one of my favorite things about climbing.