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fearlessclimber
Feb 28, 2007, 2:57 AM
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I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. I have taken numerous falls at a lower hieght before this and have had no problem, just from the falls i took today on lead i am extremely sore in the back and the rest of my body. Could it be because the rope was unable to stretch back after the falls making the fall factor greater.
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metrogroaz
Feb 28, 2007, 3:02 AM
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4-5?? which is it? Because anyone know 4 20 footers is fine, and you are a gumby if you are sore, however, 5 would be intense. Seriously, I have only taken one good 20 footer, so I don't know. I was sketched, and sore the next day though.
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majid_sabet
Feb 28, 2007, 3:04 AM
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I guess ,you keep trusing your rope too many times, may be one day ,your rope will give up on you . Try to climb like you got no rope and stop falling on it.
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coastal_climber
Feb 28, 2007, 3:05 AM
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Have you taken falls like these before? What were the outcomes with those? With that much rope, I doubt that rope stretch was the problem. >Cam
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jsj42
Feb 28, 2007, 3:11 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: I guess ,you keep trusing your rope too many times, may be one day ,your rope will give up on you . Try to climb like you got no rope and stop falling on it. Majid continues to outdo himself with ignorant statements.
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jt512
Feb 28, 2007, 3:15 AM
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fearlessclimber wrote: I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. I have taken numerous falls at a lower hieght before this and have had no problem, just from the falls i took today on lead i am extremely sore in the back and the rest of my body. Could it be because the rope was unable to stretch back after the falls making the fall factor greater. Sounds more like you are getting the flu. Jay
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jakedatc
Feb 28, 2007, 3:24 AM
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jsj42 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: I guess ,you keep trusing your rope too many times, may be one day ,your rope will give up on you . Try to climb like you got no rope and stop falling on it. Majid continues to outdo himself with ignorant statements. agreed.. And this guy is giving advice on how to set up a huge tyrolean? can someone win nOOb of the year... every year? if Majid keeps using his keyboard will it eventually give up on him? pleeeeeaaaaasseeee OP. sounds like you took alot of falls.. and if you were on something that hard then you *could* actually be sore from climbing ;) Ice.. stretch.. take some advil if you're that bad off. if it doesnt start getting better in a few days.. go get it checked out
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carabiner96
Feb 28, 2007, 3:27 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: I guess ,you keep trusing your rope too many times, may be one day ,your rope will give up on you . Try to climb like you got no rope and stop falling on it. Seriously?
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truello
Feb 28, 2007, 3:35 AM
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I hope someone can correct me but I remember reading somewhere that a rope needs some "recovery" time after taking a whipper. If these falls were one after another it's very possible that its dynamic property was nearing inexistent.
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bbentley77
Feb 28, 2007, 3:39 AM
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Yea I was wondering about that too. My 9.8mm turns to like 8mm after a good fall but returns to normal after it's been unloaded for a while. I don't think it hinders performance, but I'm not sure???
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jt512
Feb 28, 2007, 3:40 AM
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truello wrote: I hope someone can correct me but I remember reading somewhere that a rope needs some "recovery" time after taking a whipper. If these falls were one after another it's very possible that its dynamic property was nearing inexistent. If it weren't for Pennsylvania, this site would be so boring. Jay
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fearlessclimber
Feb 28, 2007, 3:56 AM
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jt512 wrote: fearlessclimber wrote: I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. I have taken numerous falls at a lower hieght before this and have had no problem, just from the falls i took today on lead i am extremely sore in the back and the rest of my body. Could it be because the rope was unable to stretch back after the falls making the fall factor greater. Sounds more like you are getting the flu. Jay good call man, i have a 101 temperature, i think thats why my body is so sore. And i fell because it was an 11c sandbag on superthis granite, you have no idea how bad i wanted the onsight for that climb, oh well.
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fearlessclimber wrote: jt512 wrote: fearlessclimber wrote: I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. I have taken numerous falls at a lower hieght before this and have had no problem, just from the falls i took today on lead i am extremely sore in the back and the rest of my body. Could it be because the rope was unable to stretch back after the falls making the fall factor greater. Sounds more like you are getting the flu. Jay good call man, i have a 101 temperature, i think thats why my body is so sore. And i fell because it was an 11c sandbag on superthis granite, you have no idea how bad i wanted the onsight for that climb, oh well. You didn't fall because it was a sandbag, you fell because the climb was too hard for you. I give that an S1.4. Weak sauce spraying.
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moose_droppings
Feb 28, 2007, 5:25 AM
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Could be a slim loss of stretch in the rope. More than likely just repeated stress on your body with no recovery time between falls.
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Feb 28, 2007, 5:57 AM
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fearlessclimber wrote: I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. Interesting that you took 20 footers when the crux moves are right at the bolt. I agree that it may have been a mix between not resting the rope and not resting your body, especially if you're coming down with something. Don't push it too hard.
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jt512
Feb 28, 2007, 6:45 AM
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kachoong wrote: fearlessclimber wrote: I climbed a route today where the crux moves are right at the bolt, i was about 70 feet up when i took 4-5 20 footers on bolts. Interesting that you took 20 footers when the crux moves are right at the bolt. I agree that it may have been a mix between not resting the rope and not resting your body, especially if you're coming down with something. Don't push it too hard. Um, I think it's been established that he had the flu. Jay
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Feb 28, 2007, 7:08 AM
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jakedatc wrote: jsj42 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: I guess ,you keep trusing your rope too many times, may be one day ,your rope will give up on you . Try to climb like you got no rope and stop falling on it. Majid continues to outdo himself with ignorant statements. agreed.. And this guy is giving advice on how to set up a huge tyrolean? can someone win nOOb of the year... every year? if Majid keeps using his keyboard will it eventually give up on him? pleeeeeaaaaasseeee OP. sounds like you took alot of falls.. and if you were on something that hard then you *could* actually be sore from climbing ;) Ice.. stretch.. take some advil if you're that bad off. if it doesnt start getting better in a few days.. go get it checked out One day of contribution to RC, just jump from post to post writing BS all day long. 4000+ worthless posting what a waste of time man, just get a rope and go climb, or learn a few knot, then you can come back and talk. [URL=http://imageshack.us]
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harihari
Feb 28, 2007, 7:27 AM
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There is soemthing like a 20 minute time lag to "un stretch" a rope that's been whipped on. Much longer if it's wet. IF you hangdog and whip several times in a row you are really pounding on your body and rope. A good stretching session also really helps after a how shower-- esp. for lower back.
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bizarrodrinker
Feb 28, 2007, 1:21 PM
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It all depends on how you fall. I have taken some bad ones that were upwards of 20-25 feet that did not go so well and my back ended up hurting pretty good after the first one.
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svilnit
Feb 28, 2007, 1:26 PM
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jt512 wrote: truello wrote: I hope someone can correct me but I remember reading somewhere that a rope needs some "recovery" time after taking a whipper. If these falls were one after another it's very possible that its dynamic property was nearing inexistent. If it weren't for Pennsylvania, this site would be so boring. Jay It's something in the water up there...
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Feb 28, 2007, 2:54 PM
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If the falls were in succession. One right after another, then your rope has no time to recover. You should take a break after a big fall and let your rope settle in for another big fall. I could see if you took a few in say 15 minutes then your rope could lose some of its elasticity and make falls harsher. Just 2 cents
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Feb 28, 2007, 3:33 PM
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svilnit wrote: jt512 wrote: truello wrote: I hope someone can correct me but I remember reading somewhere that a rope needs some "recovery" time after taking a whipper. If these falls were one after another it's very possible that its dynamic property was nearing inexistent. If it weren't for Pennsylvania, this site would be so boring. Jay It's something in the water up there... Well, we do have a lot of run-off into our waterways that carries a good bit of fertilizer from all the farms, that could be it. Or maybe its a conspiracy by the Amish to poison us modern folks.
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Feb 28, 2007, 3:53 PM
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jt512 wrote: If it weren't for Pennsylvania, this site would be so boring. Jay Did you really not notice all the stellar climbing the last time you were in Pennsylvania? Or are you a moron?
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Feb 28, 2007, 4:19 PM
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In reply to: Did you really not notice all the stellar climbing the last time you were in Pennsylvania? Or are you a moron? sorry, but i can't tell if this sarcasm or serious. PA may have stellar climbing compared to FLA, but besides GS bouldering there's not too much to write home about...don't get me wrong though, we are in a nice location for weekend trips to some stellar places oh yeah and to the OP...if you were 70 feet up your belayer should have been giving you cadillac-soft falls on a 20 ft. whipper
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jakedatc
Feb 28, 2007, 4:30 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: One day of contribution to RC, just jump from post to post writing BS all day long. 4000+ worthless posting what a waste of time man, just get a rope and go climb, or learn a few knot, then you can come back and talk. [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2018/screenhunter1xc6.jpg[/IMG] Because your obsessive compulsive google search threads aren't a complete waste.. if anyone wants to see what you post they can google it themselves. And i climb plenty.. although not as much as i want at the moment since the weather blows but that will be fixed one way or another this weekend. yes.. i must learn KNOTS! that will make me more credible. like you going and clipping a few bolts so you'd understand why what you said in this thread is effing retarded and if you look there are quite a few posts in that list that were being helpful.. helping a girl find shoes for roofs(i climb alot of steep stuff so you see.. i know about that) .. hm how to wash a chalk bag.. well.. ive done that and was giving tips so the guy didnt get chalk all over his washer and dryer. etc etc.. the only ONE post i made that wasn't necessarily helpful was the one i posted in the tyrolean thread..
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